Putting a Dance Station on in a major market next week.......I guess we will finally see if Dance will work in The West.......
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It already works in the west with Energy 92.7 San Francisco, and C-89.5 Seattle.
Are we talking about a station with a full market coverage? Is it a pretty big market? Is it on FM, or on HD-2, which nobody listens to?
Kinda sounds like it'll be called Fun Radio, which sounds pretty fun to me. I wonder if it'll sound anything like Fun Radio in France or Romania.
Are we talking about a station with a full market coverage? Is it a pretty big market? Is it on FM, or on HD-2, which nobody listens to?
Kinda sounds like it'll be called Fun Radio, which sounds pretty fun to me. I wonder if it'll sound anything like Fun Radio in France or Romania.
is 100,000 watts at about 2000 feet big enough?......Nobody listens to HD...It's all about the main channel...What I am trying to figure out is whether this new station should lean more like Energy in San Fran, C89 in Seattle or like Pulse in NewYork. I am looking at the intial music rotations and there are many ways it could go.....I guess I will have to do a big expensive research project that will show me nothing....(hahahahaha) maybe its gut time again in radio. By the way who does everyone like out there for a image voice? For the market ...think very hispanic, asian, white and black. Lots of stuff to do and very fun. No the station will not be called fun....
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It depends on who you're targetting. Energy 92.7 San Francisco's main success lies with men 25-54 in the city of San Francisco, especially with gays (they make up about 60 percent of the station's total audience).
C-89.5 is a high school-based station, and I'd imagine they're particularly strong in the 15-24 demo. I may be wrong on that though, so perhaps it'd be best to ask someone whose more familiar with the station.
As for Pulse, it's a bit closer to C-89.5 then to Energy, but will also play some crossover Rhythmic/Pop records to help attract a larger (read mainstream) audience. I think you're best bet is to go with something along Pulse's line.
A 100,000 watts flamethrower at 2000 feet. Not alot of those kinds of stations around. A couple of stations in the Portland area come to mind.
Anyways, if this is real then definitely good luck. I know me and others on this board will be happy to try and help.
C-89.5 is a high school-based station, and I'd imagine they're particularly strong in the 15-24 demo. I may be wrong on that though, so perhaps it'd be best to ask someone whose more familiar with the station.
As for Pulse, it's a bit closer to C-89.5 then to Energy, but will also play some crossover Rhythmic/Pop records to help attract a larger (read mainstream) audience. I think you're best bet is to go with something along Pulse's line.
A 100,000 watts flamethrower at 2000 feet. Not alot of those kinds of stations around. A couple of stations in the Portland area come to mind.
Anyways, if this is real then definitely good luck. I know me and others on this board will be happy to try and help.
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KDL in Dallas was 100kw at 2000 feet, is it flipping back to Dance, my first thought was Vegas or LA, but no stations that powerful in either market.
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Fun Radio would be a cool name, theirs also a Fun Radio in Belgium. I havent listened to the fun radio in Romania, I didnt even know they had one.
According to Radio Locator 106.7 KZZA (Casa FM), which used to be KDL, is at 75,000 feet.
Houston's Party 93.3 is almost 100 KW, and almost 2000 ft.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=KPTY&service=FM
It's ratings have been slipping, are expected to continue to slip (if they stay Rhythmic) with the new Hot 95.7 in the market, and the name itself reminds me of Party 93.1 Miami. Unfortunately KPTY's signal doesnt properly cover the entire market...but it does a great job of reaching Beaumont
Beaumont's CHR/Pop station, Q-94 is super conservative, so they'd definitely make an impact there. The signal is still strong in huge chunks of H-Town. The coverage area seems to be identical to that of the now defunt 98.5 Kiss FM, which was CHR and CHR/Dance in the mid-late 90s. KPTY also used to be located at 100.7 (or was it 104.9?) and they were definitely Dance friendly back then.
Houston was at one time considered the Euro-Dance capital of America in the late 80s (according to Billboard magazine) and both 93 Q and Power 104 played a lot of Dance, especially New Wave by the likes of New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, Human League, etc. Houston's first Dance station was the short lived Energy 96, one of the first Energy stations in the country. It only lasted for about a year, but it was a fun station to listen to. When 104 KRBE started moving into its "hits without the hype" phase in 91, it went more adult, but was extremely Dance friendly. Within a year it started to lean more on Modern Rock crossover records, which 93 Q and Power 104 were both big supportes of in the 80s. It still played a good amount of Dance in rotation at this time, though went overly Modern Rock and then Modern AC leaning in 95-96, similar to Z-100 New York. When KRBE evolved back to CHR/Pop, again at the same exact time as New York's Z-100 (Z's PD Tom Poleman and MD Paul Cubby Bryant both came to Z-100 from KRBE) they were all over records like "One And One" by Robert Miles, Planet Soul's "Set You Free", and other records. In the late 90s-early 2000s KRBE stayed Dance friendly and was one of the few stations in America playing songs like "Prey" by Tina Cousins. The station was of course all over Euro and Trance hits like Alice Deejay's "Better Off Alone".
Houston's Party 93.3 is almost 100 KW, and almost 2000 ft.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=KPTY&service=FM
It's ratings have been slipping, are expected to continue to slip (if they stay Rhythmic) with the new Hot 95.7 in the market, and the name itself reminds me of Party 93.1 Miami. Unfortunately KPTY's signal doesnt properly cover the entire market...but it does a great job of reaching Beaumont
Beaumont's CHR/Pop station, Q-94 is super conservative, so they'd definitely make an impact there. The signal is still strong in huge chunks of H-Town. The coverage area seems to be identical to that of the now defunt 98.5 Kiss FM, which was CHR and CHR/Dance in the mid-late 90s. KPTY also used to be located at 100.7 (or was it 104.9?) and they were definitely Dance friendly back then.Houston was at one time considered the Euro-Dance capital of America in the late 80s (according to Billboard magazine) and both 93 Q and Power 104 played a lot of Dance, especially New Wave by the likes of New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, Human League, etc. Houston's first Dance station was the short lived Energy 96, one of the first Energy stations in the country. It only lasted for about a year, but it was a fun station to listen to. When 104 KRBE started moving into its "hits without the hype" phase in 91, it went more adult, but was extremely Dance friendly. Within a year it started to lean more on Modern Rock crossover records, which 93 Q and Power 104 were both big supportes of in the 80s. It still played a good amount of Dance in rotation at this time, though went overly Modern Rock and then Modern AC leaning in 95-96, similar to Z-100 New York. When KRBE evolved back to CHR/Pop, again at the same exact time as New York's Z-100 (Z's PD Tom Poleman and MD Paul Cubby Bryant both came to Z-100 from KRBE) they were all over records like "One And One" by Robert Miles, Planet Soul's "Set You Free", and other records. In the late 90s-early 2000s KRBE stayed Dance friendly and was one of the few stations in America playing songs like "Prey" by Tina Cousins. The station was of course all over Euro and Trance hits like Alice Deejay's "Better Off Alone".
75000 feet!!! I should be able to get that station all the way in New Jersey!
More like 75kW at ~2000 feet.
If only watts were feet...
Pulse 87 could potentially get more listeners than a 100000 watt flamethrower in the middle of nowhere.
I really hope this is true, it will join the ranks of the few dance stations in the country, and the station will get its "15 minutes of fame" on this board
More like 75kW at ~2000 feet.
If only watts were feet...
Pulse 87 could potentially get more listeners than a 100000 watt flamethrower in the middle of nowhere.
I really hope this is true, it will join the ranks of the few dance stations in the country, and the station will get its "15 minutes of fame" on this board
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I noticed on KPTY radio locator page, it says THE HOUSE PARTY right underneath it, this could be left over from when they were Dance at 100.7, or they could be getting ready to go back that direction. Didnt houston have a Dance station on 97.1 during a short time in the early part of the decade, i think they were 97 Jamz or something like that.
KPTY was Dance on 100.7, then they moved to 104.9 and skewed to a very Hispanic sounding rhythmic, but with harder hip hop than most rhythmics.
KPTY was Dance on 100.7, then they moved to 104.9 and skewed to a very Hispanic sounding rhythmic, but with harder hip hop than most rhythmics.
Mid West Clubber said:
Actually the 97.1 frequency you were referring to, KTHT (Hot 97.1), was a Rhythmic but did play some Dance. It only lasted 2 and a half years, 2000-2003.
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Wonder if it could be Wild 104 Mcallen, or XHTO 104.3 El Paso,,,, Both stations have flame thrower signals, both stations are already Dance friendly. I cant imagine either station doing a complete flip and name change, but I could see either one phasing in some more Dance.
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CHRles said:But again, the guy said it's a market that has a good amount of Hispanics, whites, as well as blacks, and Asians. Neither El Paso and especially Mcallen don't fit that bill
LA please.. What market could be better than that??
93.9
but I'm not holding my breath thats this is for real regardless.
Houston, La, Dallas, Chicago, San Diego, Tijuana, Philadelphia, Portland, Detroit, Windsor, Montreal, Vancouver, Vegas, Phoenix would all be good markets for Dance Station with a good signal...It would be interesting if they were all networked together somehow.....They do it in Europe and they do it in North America with spanish...There is probably at least one signal in all those markets that is not doing well but the MAJOR radio groups probably would not put a format on like we have been talking about . They would want to do a big research project and would want to test something they cannot even grasp.....a vibe so to speak...Look at Emmis for example....they have successful stations in Europe but some of their stations in the USA are just plain ROBOTIC...No Feeling...Not in Touch....Just implementing a plan derived from a research study that they think will work...It might be time to swing the pendulum in the total opposite direction..find the people throughout North America that feel something....find the people that essentially say......YOUR RADIO RULES DON'T WORK.......YOU HAVE TRIED IT YOUR WAY...NOW IT'S TIME TO TRY A NEW WAY......find the people that love to MOVE LIKE NINJA'S and STING LIKE BEE'S and have weird new and sometimes out of the norm ideas and let them do their thing and put on inspiring stations that in turn inspire people.....Stay the hell out of the way and LET THEM MOVE....I love the guys like Randy Michaels, Jerry Clifton, Steve Perun, The Last Contest guy forgot his name,Paige, Marc Chase, Keith Naftaly, Dom, Gillette,Armando, Sal the Fish and everybody that has done their own thing and in doing so created the next thing...THE DAYS OF BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT ARE OVER WITH.....By the way if you have never heard the DR DAVE ...ALIEN SPAM PROMO SERIES from WPGC ,THE LAST CONTEST series for KCBQ, THE OLD WILD 1077 AND 106 KMEL sound, THE POWER PIG stuff from TAMPA, THE OLD POWER 106LA sound.....and other stuff that escapes my memory at the moment ...you need to and I would be happy to send you what I have.....There are tons of people in this business that have forgotten what we came into this business for....THE LOVE...period and hopefully the people that do understand will usher in THE NEW......the wheel just keeps turning and turning and turning....
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It's not that people have forgotten about personality driven radio, it's that radio started to play the Wall Street game in the 90's and the focus has moved from entertaining the listeners to seeing how every penny can be squeezed out of the station to turn big profits. The problem with that is that Wall Street has an insatiable thirst, so once your done squeezing for the year, it's time to start squeezing again for next year. Eventually there's nothing left. Personality doesn't come cheap and seems to always be the first thing cut. And that's one of the reasons that radio companies have turned their attention to the internet and HD, the next big juicy orange.
Radio is great when done with entertaining personalities. But it can be just as disastrous. Can you say Whoopi? Not my idea of "personality driven radio" but it was someones. Z100 in NYC is still the personality powerhouse that it's pretty much always been. Let's just forget those "alternative-pop" years.
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Radio is great when done with entertaining personalities. But it can be just as disastrous. Can you say Whoopi? Not my idea of "personality driven radio" but it was someones. Z100 in NYC is still the personality powerhouse that it's pretty much always been. Let's just forget those "alternative-pop" years.
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The city is Vegas, the station is happening, and I know who the night guy is going to be.
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I dont know of any 100kw station's in Vegas at 2000 feet, although some of the Vegas stations signals carry a long way, due to the flat terrain and dry desert conditions. I guess a quick look at Radio Locator, and finding the most powerful stations should narrow it down to just a few stations.
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