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The "2 Live Stews" haters...where are you now??

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DestinysKid

Just a quote from Rodney's article about the Atlanta radio scene that no one has yet to comment on:

"Over in sports-radio land, 790/The Zone's hot 2 Live Stews team shifted to late afternoons earlier this year and jumped to a solid fourth place among men ages 25 to 54. The station is beating rival 680/The Fan across the board."

So where are all the haters that were so sure that the Stews had committed suicide by going against the almighty duo of Buck and Kincaid??

Mighty quiet out there...we'll just let the numbers do all the talking,'kay??
 
You are right. 790 has made some gutsy moves with 2 Live Stews while 680 has played it safe.

790 is live and local and sports oriented in all the prime time spots, while 680 has a mix of syndicated and has been hosts like Christopher Rude.

The Dickeys just don't seem to care that much while the people at 790 has some real passion.

> Just a quote from Rodney's article about the Atlanta radio
> scene that no one has yet to comment on:
>
> "Over in sports-radio land, 790/The Zone's hot 2 Live Stews
> team shifted to late afternoons earlier this year and jumped
> to a solid fourth place among men ages 25 to 54. The station
> is beating rival 680/The Fan across the board."
>
> So where are all the haters that were so sure that the Stews
> had committed suicide by going against the almighty duo of
> Buck and Kincaid??
>
> Mighty quiet out there...we'll just let the numbers do all
> the talking,'kay??
>
 
> Just a quote from Rodney's article about the Atlanta radio
> scene that no one has yet to comment on:
>
> "Over in sports-radio land, 790/The Zone's hot 2 Live Stews
> team shifted to late afternoons earlier this year and jumped
> to a solid fourth place among men ages 25 to 54. The station
> is beating rival 680/The Fan across the board."
>
> So where are all the haters that were so sure that the Stews
> had committed suicide by going against the almighty duo of
> Buck and Kincaid??
>
> Mighty quiet out there...we'll just let the numbers do all
> the talking,'kay??
>
The Stews and 790 have done very well lately. I still have a hard time listening to Chuck Smith sometimes, but even he is getting better. In the past Buck kind of sounds lost outside of football season. Hopefully Smith won't fall into that trap.
 
It's really time to stop comparing these two radio stations. While they compete for some of the same audience and ad dollars, they are operating on two different planes.

The Zone is a heavily produced product that has made a significant investment in programming. To support that they have created a very succesful sales and marketing approach that has them charging much higher rates than their ratings suggest they should get. Should that sales effort ever fall short, their overhead will come back to bite them in a hurry.


680 has given up trying to compete on the same playing field. They realize, there is an audience for what they do (which is much different from 790). They keep the expenses down on the programming side (even more so since they overspent for the Thrasher's deal) and base their sales effort on getting clients who have either been priced out of the Zone or would like to supplement their reach at an attractive price.

Unless the Dickeys end up buying Jefferson Pilot, both these stations figure to be around for awhile. But, the wars over. 680 now realizes who they are and what they are trying to do. And number two is fine for them.
 
Whats intersting is that their 12+ rating is always close, but its always 790 by .1 or .2 over 680 -- always 790 by a small margin.

It makes you conclude:
a) if 680 stepped up, they could beat 790

or more likely

b) the nature of the Arbitron methodology belies the fact that 790 is probably beating 680 by a wider margin than the numbers suggest and 680 cant catch up no matter what.

> Unless the Dickeys end up buying Jefferson Pilot, both these
> stations figure to be around for awhile. But, the wars
> over. 680 now realizes who they are and what they are
> trying to do. And number two is fine for them.
>
 
hey zoneguy or others: Questions.

>> Unless the Dickeys end up buying Jefferson Pilot, both these
> stations figure to be around for awhile. But, the wars
> over. 680 now realizes who they are and what they are
> trying to do. And number two is fine for them.

will you guys clarify the JP/Big League Broadcasting thing for me:

JP actually owns the 790 frequency and Big League leases it from them, shares facilities etc, right? (as opposed to Big League's St. Louis station(s) where they own the whole nut.

Does JP own any actual stake in Big League or is it strictly a lease situation?

If Star94 were sold to say.....Infinity, what affect would this have on this arrangement?

Also, any chance that Big League could/would ever buy the stronger 680 frequency?


As to the original question in this thread: You won't hear a peep from those who hated on the Stews and claimed that B&K would slay them. They are not the kind of people who would own up to such open B.S.


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Re: hey zoneguy or others: Questions.

> >> Unless the Dickeys end up buying Jefferson Pilot, both
> these
> > stations figure to be around for awhile. But, the wars
> > over. 680 now realizes who they are and what they are
> > trying to do. And number two is fine for them.
>
> will you guys clarify the JP/Big League Broadcasting thing
> for me:
>
> JP actually owns the 790 frequency and Big League leases it
> from them, shares facilities etc, right? (as opposed to Big
> League's St. Louis station(s) where they own the whole nut.
>
> Does JP own any actual stake in Big League or is it strictly
> a lease situation?
>
> If Star94 were sold to say.....Infinity, what affect would
> this have on this arrangement?
>
> Also, any chance that Big League could/would ever buy the
> stronger 680 frequency?
>
>
> As to the original question in this thread: You won't hear a
> peep from those who hated on the Stews and claimed that B&K
> would slay them. They are not the kind of people who would
> own up to such open B.S.
>
I clearly recall who was the biggest anti-stews guy because I went back and forth with him several times on it. It is The_Big_Bopper.
 
> It's really time to stop comparing these two radio stations.
> While they compete for some of the same audience and ad
> dollars, they are operating on two different planes.
>
> The Zone is a heavily produced product that has made a
> significant investment in programming. To support that
> they have created a very succesful sales and marketing
> approach that has them charging much higher rates than their
> ratings suggest they should get. Should that sales effort
> ever fall short, their overhead will come back to bite them
> in a hurry.
>
>
> 680 has given up trying to compete on the same playing
> field. They realize, there is an audience for what they do
> (which is much different from 790). They keep the expenses
> down on the programming side (even more so since they
> overspent for the Thrasher's deal) and base their sales
> effort on getting clients who have either been priced out of
> the Zone or would like to supplement their reach at an
> attractive price.
>
> Unless the Dickeys end up buying Jefferson Pilot, both these
> stations figure to be around for awhile. But, the wars
> over. 680 now realizes who they are and what they are
> trying to do. And number two is fine for them.
>

Hey man... I have to say 790 The Zone dwarfs anything 680 has. I listen to both whenever it is competitive, which is rarely, and I like that they focus as much on pop-culture as sports! You could put this morning show on 96 ROCK,
99X, and probably Dave FM, and beat the curent ratings for the afore-mentioned "fan."

So, my observations are that the Zone's morning show is the best AM, "male-targeted morning radio show" in Atlanta! ...just my .02 cents worth!!!!
 
> Whats intersting is that their 12+ rating is always close,
> but its always 790 by .1 or .2 over 680 -- always 790 by a
> small margin.
>
> It makes you conclude:
> a) if 680 stepped up, they could beat 790
>
> or more likely
>
> b) the nature of the Arbitron methodology belies the fact
> that 790 is probably beating 680 by a wider margin than the
> numbers suggest and 680 cant catch up no matter what.
>

The twelve plus universe is always close becasue both stations have such limited appeal. Women don't listen and teens don't listen. The true story is Men 25-54 and Men 18-34 rankers where 790 competes with several of the biggest stations in the market in key dayparts. (Stews being 4th in afternoon drive for Men-25-54 for example.) This is what helps them drive much higher ad rates than 680.
 
Re: hey zoneguy or others: Questions.

> >> Unless the Dickeys end up buying Jefferson Pilot, both
> these
> > stations figure to be around for awhile. But, the wars
> > over. 680 now realizes who they are and what they are
> > trying to do. And number two is fine for them.
>
> will you guys clarify the JP/Big League Broadcasting thing
> for me:
>
> JP actually owns the 790 frequency and Big League leases it
> from them, shares facilities etc, right? (as opposed to Big
> League's St. Louis station(s) where they own the whole nut.
>
> Does JP own any actual stake in Big League or is it strictly
> a lease situation?
>
> If Star94 were sold to say.....Infinity, what affect would
> this have on this arrangement?
>
> Also, any chance that Big League could/would ever buy the
> stronger 680 frequency?
>
>
> As to the original question in this thread: You won't hear a
> peep from those who hated on the Stews and claimed that B&K
> would slay them. They are not the kind of people who would
> own up to such open B.S.
>

My understanding is that Big League has a long term lease on the signal with J.P.. J.P. has no stake in Big League. The lease apparently would be in place if the J.P. was sold, but I would guess there would have to be a buyout clause if the new owner so chose. But, why buy it out, if you are guaranteed that Steak and Andrew are going to be writing you a big fat check every year for the lease.

Big League just bought a signal in St. Louis, so I can't imagine they would pay for another signal in Atlanta since they must pay J.P. for the 790 lease anyway.
 
> Just a quote from Rodney's article about the Atlanta radio
> scene that no one has yet to comment on:
>
> "Over in sports-radio land, 790/The Zone's hot 2 Live Stews
> team shifted to late afternoons earlier this year and jumped
> to a solid fourth place among men ages 25 to 54. The station
> is beating rival 680/The Fan across the board."
>
> So where are all the haters that were so sure that the Stews
> had committed suicide by going against the almighty duo of
> Buck and Kincaid??
>
> Mighty quiet out there...we'll just let the numbers do all
> the talking,'kay??
>
They still suck, so what? The station as whole is better but that show sucks. They are not entertaining, not good hosts and past the perimeter they have no ratings, dawg.

As far as the station beating 680, is that really a surprise? They have no direction and if it wasnt for buck & kincaide I would have no reason to change the dial from 750.

Let it get past the first little stage then see where they stand, they are not as talented as you ass kissers think.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Damn, Big Blobber...

...or Bopper, or whatever the hell your name is....is your hatred so bad that you can't be a gracious loser (which I'm sure you are used to being) and just admit the Stews have a good talented sports talk show that's better than the good ol' boys down the dial?? Must I be a ass kisser to know and hear better talent or just intelligent?? I'll go with the intelligence and you stay on that short yellow bus with all the other Buck & Kincaid fans, okay??
> >
> They still suck, so what? The station as whole is better but
> that show sucks. They are not entertaining, not good hosts
> and past the perimeter they have no ratings, dawg.
>
> As far as the station beating 680, is that really a
> surprise? They have no direction and if it wasnt for buck &
> kincaide I would have no reason to change the dial from 750.
>
>
> Let it get past the first little stage then see where they
> stand, they are not as talented as you ass kissers think.
>
 
>
> Let it get past the first little stage then see where they
> stand, they are not as talented as you ass kissers think.
>

you sound like the loser kid down the street. "one more time, double or nothing. okay, i messed up that time. triple or nothing. c'mon triple or nothing". man up and say that you were wrong.
 
> >
> > Let it get past the first little stage then see where they
>
> > stand, they are not as talented as you ass kissers think.
> >
>
> you sound like the loser kid down the street. "one more
> time, double or nothing. okay, i messed up that time.
> triple or nothing. c'mon triple or nothing". man up and
> say that you were wrong.
>
I am not wrong, they suck. See it is an opinion and I am free to have any opinion that I want.

But once again lets see where they stand after a little while where they are.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Damn, Big Blobber...

> ...or Bopper, or whatever the hell your name is....is your
> hatred so bad that you can't be a gracious loser (which I'm
> sure you are used to being) and just admit the Stews have a
> good talented sports talk show that's better than the good
> ol' boys down the dial?? Must I be a ass kisser to know and
> hear better talent or just intelligent?? I'll go with the
> intelligence and you stay on that short yellow bus with all
> the other Buck & Kincaid fans, okay??
>

LOL talented? Have you seen their show on espn ocho or where ever the hell channel it is on? They are pure crap kinda like stewart scott, he had his nice little run but now everyone is tiring of him and his lazy eye. Hell Perry was more infomative than they are on their show.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Damn, Big Blobber...

> > ...or Bopper, or whatever the hell your name is....is your
>
> > hatred so bad that you can't be a gracious loser (which
> I'm
> > sure you are used to being) and just admit the Stews have
> a
> > good talented sports talk show that's better than the good
>
> > ol' boys down the dial?? Must I be a ass kisser to know
> and
> > hear better talent or just intelligent?? I'll go with the
>
> > intelligence and you stay on that short yellow bus with
> all
> > the other Buck & Kincaid fans, okay??
> >
>
> LOL talented? Have you seen their show on espn ocho or where
> ever the hell channel it is on? They are pure crap kinda
> like stewart scott, he had his nice little run but now
> everyone is tiring of him and his lazy eye. Hell Perry was
> more infomative than they are on their show.
>
Big Bopper is so transparent. Here is the list of people he consider to have no talent: The Stews, Chuck Smith and now Stuart Scott. Hmm I see a trend. But hey busboy Perry thats talent.
 
Re: Damn, Big Blobber...

> > > ...or Bopper, or whatever the hell your name is....is
> your
> >
> > > hatred so bad that you can't be a gracious loser (which
> > I'm
> > > sure you are used to being) and just admit the Stews
> have
> > a
> > > good talented sports talk show that's better than the
> good
> >
> > > ol' boys down the dial?? Must I be a ass kisser to know
>
> > and
> > > hear better talent or just intelligent?? I'll go with
> the
> >
> > > intelligence and you stay on that short yellow bus with
> > all
> > > the other Buck & Kincaid fans, okay??
> > >
> >
> > LOL talented? Have you seen their show on espn ocho or
> where
> > ever the hell channel it is on? They are pure crap kinda
> > like stewart scott, he had his nice little run but now
> > everyone is tiring of him and his lazy eye. Hell Perry was
>
> > more infomative than they are on their show.
> >
> Big Bopper is so transparent. Here is the list of people he
> consider to have no talent: The Stews, Chuck Smith and now
> Stuart Scott. Hmm I see a trend. But hey busboy Perry thats
> talent.
>
Actually Chuck Smith is getting better, but I see what you are trying to do and just for the record I didnt bring up the race card.

And FYI, I enjoyed Royal more than Boortz most of the time when he was on, I think that is the real reason he is no longer on the air. Envy by the loudmouth.

I have no problem if you can bring a show that is A)Informative or B)Entertaining. The stews are neither and it shows in their callers, anyone with even slight sports info does not listen to their show. If you want actual sports talk that has a direction they listen to B&K.<P ID="signature">______________
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> >
> I am not wrong, they suck. See it is an opinion and I am
> free to have any opinion that I want.
>
> But once again lets see where they stand after a little
> while where they are.

you were wrong in saying that they were overmatched against B&K. no youre not wrong in having your opinion. you are very much wrong thinking that most of atlanta shares it......
 
Re: Damn, Big Blobber...

Yeah, everyone is so tired of Stuart Scott...so tired of him that he's STILL on damn near every ESPN show. Great example, BTW.

Buck and Kincaid might be more entertaining, more infomative, they might be better cooks and better at rotating mud-grip truck tires. Doesn't matter...they're still looking up at The Stews.

See that? It's called a scoreboard...and your team is getting its lunch eaten. <P ID="signature">______________
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--Wynton Marsalis
</P>
 
> > >
> > I am not wrong, they suck. See it is an opinion and I am
> > free to have any opinion that I want.
> >
> > But once again lets see where they stand after a little
> > while where they are.
>
> you were wrong in saying that they were overmatched against
> B&K. no youre not wrong in having your opinion. you are
> very much wrong thinking that most of atlanta shares
> it......
>
They are overmatched, they will have a period of bringing people in but it they will leave in droves when people realize they are a one trick pony. Funny I have never heard so many people let one segment tell how great a show has become.

Oh and most of Atlanta does share it, if you want informative sports talk, you tune into B&K, if you want 2 old men trying to act like teenagers you listen to the stewes.<P ID="signature">______________
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