just makes you think that the whole 'hip hop is dying off' may hold some truth...
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Archervox
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If Hip Hop really is dying (I'm not so sure yet), it might be because it is seeping into mainstream older demo culture. You even hear it creeping into adult contemporary. Pundits say that when a musical genre hits the mainstream that's usually the beginning of the end. :-\
Hip Hop isn't dead. That's like saying Rock is dead. Or Dance is dead. Last I checked, Rock records were still coming out. Last I checked Dance Music was still being made.Music goes through cycles. Remember how Modern AC was considered dead a year ago, but now artists like James Blunt, Daniel Powder, and KT Tuslen are out and making big records?The same people that wrote about your demise will write about the comeback.Archervox said:
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I'm going to take that personally because I need it this morning.Joshua Messex said:
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mostb1
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The title of this thread is very misleading. FM 92 The Beat was born an Urban AC which grew into being an Urban. It has returned to its original format. But after listening this weekend, Radio One has no clue how to program a sucessful Urban AC Los Angeles radio station. They are and will not ever be a (New York) KISS with syndicated hosts that don't speak L.A.. 3 Urban AC's are way too many for L.A. Probably 2 too many.
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There is no reason for any station in LA to be a KISS in New York or any other NY station. I agree there needs to be more local programming and an LA feel on The Beat. Over time it will happen. Musically, I think they should lean more towards current R&B like KJLH does...I'm sure that will also change over time as well. And the last time I checked, before The Beat flipped back to Urban AC there was only one Urban AC in this market, KJLH. Hot 92 Jamz is NOT urban ac and it is not targeted towards African Americans.mostb1 said:
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Hot 92 Jamz has almost the same playlist as The Beat currently. It is an Urban AC and has added more Urban AC currents in recent weeks. It does target the African American listener as well as Hispanic listener. It has also been trending down for an entire year while most all other stations that target the Hispanic listener have been moving up. It needs to move away from the Urban AC sound. It don't think much of the way tne station is programmed. Boring with no real personality allowed.As for The Beat, it is bringing in a syndicated morning show (reportedly with Tom Joyner moving to Los Angeles) that has failed in L.A. before and now has Michael Baisden (12-4 on The Beat) who originates from KISS in New York, The Beat is ALREADY like KISS. And that isn't a good thing. On Friday, Baisden's most intellectual question was "Would You Get Naked on a Nude Beach". Stupid and included calls 100% from the East Coast (by named city). So much for community involvement in Southern California.djdramah2 said:
Hot 92 Jamz added more currents? What the hell is your radio set to Glenn? We obviously aren't hearing the same station. I'm sorry, but the recent additions of Mary J Blige's Be without you or Ne-Yo's So Sick do not count for currents. Hot is just like sister KBIG, only adds a song after KIIS has burnt it to a crisp. And KHHT isn't madated to play Jeff Majors either, are you aware of him? You should be, and KHHT isn't even playing HALF of what KKBT is playing right now. I haven't heard Santana on KKBT and KHHT thinks Atlantic Starr only exists with their crossover hit Always.Dramah, I agree with you, KHHT ain't targeted at Urban fans, it's targeted towards Hispanics and will always be. Oh yeah, Mike Marino, you need to make up your mind now, Art Laboe Killer Oldies or the UAC music? No more room to straddle the fence.mostb1 said:
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You need to listen more closely to the changes Hot made a few weeks back. Hot is an Urban AC and it is not targeted just to Hispanics. Hot and The Beat share so many of the same songs right now they almost sound like the same station. But The Beat is going to be "chatty" all day while Hot will remain music intensive.And with a loser morning host, they've already set in stone what their future will be.A better fix for Hot would be to put the HD fprmat on as the primary format. It's much better than Hot 92 Jamz (and programmed locally with local air talent).As for music, I haven';t ever heard K.,C. and the Sunshine Band on an Urban in L.A. but I've heard them on "The Beat" (Friday). So much for syndicated programming from New York City.Joshua Messex said:
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You need to listen more closely to the changes Hot made a few weeks back. Hot is an Urban AC and it is not targeted just to Hispanics. Hot and The Beat share so many of the same songs right now they almost sound like the same station. But The Beat is going to be "chatty" all day while Hot will remain music intensive.And with a loser morning host, they've already set in stone what their future will be.A better fix for Hot would be to put the HD fprmat on as the primary format. It's much better than Hot 92 Jamz (and programmed locally with local air talent).As for music, I haven';t ever heard K.,C. and the Sunshine Band on an Urban in L.A. but I've heard them on "The Beat" (Friday). So much for syndicated programming from New York City.What changes on Hot 92 Jamz? I listen regularly and it is the same tired crossover urban hits. I haven't heard any gospel programming on Sundays since they dumped Rhythm & Gospel, currents since they dumped the Soul Lounge and core Urban AC artists such as Frankie Beverly and Maze, Con Funk Shun, Bobby Womack, Dwele, Goapele, LTD, Kem, Floetry and the list goes on. When was the last time they had a promotion dedicated to celebrating Juneteenth or had a booth at the Black Business Expo? I saw The Beat, KJLH and surprisingly KTYM at last year's Black Business Expo and Hot was nowhere to be found. Hot is NOT an Urban AC, it is a Rhythmic AC. KC and the Sunshine Band crossed over and scored several hits on the Urban charts in the '70s so yes, it would make sense they would also be heard occasionally on an Urban AC station.
I agree Dramah! KHHT is a Rhythmic AC and is acting as such. Glenn is always full of**** as usual. Mabye there's a "few" black elements, but they are far and few between and I expect that with KKBT's Urban AC move, Hot has to pick it's target now. Just Who will that target be, blacks or Hispanics? My money is Hot moves more Hispanic(even more Crossover R&B and mabye 80s freestyle).Then again, CC might move KHHT full blown Urban AC and shock us all.*Edited to remove profanity.
Something like XHRM in San Diego?Joshua Messex said:
Glenn , you have just proved how much of a Idiot you really are. Currents on KHHT? HAH!http://www.hot92jamz.comLook at their top 10 everybody. And then I invite you to look at this chart.htpp://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/UAC_Chart.aspBut of course it won't really matter soon becasue even the played out Ne-Yo and Mary J will be dropped as Hot drops post 1996 music and strictly goes Mega Old Skool(my prediction).
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