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The BIGGEST wasted signal in the NYC metro

I'd say the 89.1 United Nations Allocation. Not the current occupier of the frequency.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
benale said:
WBBR and WQEW. Yes, I know these stations exist to promote their products and both have very few listeners. Two 50,000 watt signals wasted. It would be nice if these stations could move to less powerful frequencies.

1560 should be co-located with WABC in Lodi. (Note that co-location is NOT the same thing as AM diplexing. Both co-location and diplexing involve multiple stations sharing a site but in co-location NO towers are common to both stations.) It appears that the WABC site has enough room for the three 300-or-so-foot towers that WQEW would need. The north-Jersey location with a pattern that sends most of the signal to the southeast would dramatically improve WQEW's signal in the five boroughs and some surrounding counties as well (especially in north Jersey and Rockland). Given the large population of the New York market, I'm guessing that the increased stick value would--even in the current tough times--justify the cost of the move, which would probably exceed $1 million.
 
DanStrassberg said:
1560 should be co-located with WABC in Lodi. (Note that co-location is NOT the same thing as AM diplexing. Both co-location and diplexing involve multiple stations sharing a site but in co-location NO towers are common to both stations.) It appears that the WABC site has enough room for the three 300-or-so-foot towers that WQEW would need. The north-Jersey location with a pattern that sends most of the signal to the southeast would dramatically improve WQEW's signal in the five boroughs and some surrounding counties as well (especially in north Jersey and Rockland). Given the large population of the New York market, I'm guessing that the increased stick value would--even in the current tough times--justify the cost of the move, which would probably exceed $1 million.

Disney shows no desire of spending any money on this station so I doubt they would even consider this.
 
XCountry285 said:
103.5-not poor ratings just poor in terms of its format right now, keeps overlaping with other stations owned by CC in the market.
94.7-better become Rock
101.9-irrelevant when you have 660
98.7-ratings suck go either country, rock or back as Kiss
93.9- isn't it simulcasted on 105.9 why?
93.1-ratings are horrible go dance

103.5 is doing VERY well and is intentionally overlapping with their sister stations to not allow competition. Clearly it's working
101.9 sounds great and will help keep sports teams on their station
98.7 ratings will improve, especially if they get a baseball team
94.7- New Rock does not really work in NY without Howard in Mornings.

92.3 is pointless and hopeless. That should be on your list
 
Radaioman said:
XCountry285 said:
103.5-not poor ratings just poor in terms of its format right now, keeps overlaping with other stations owned by CC in the market.
94.7-better become Rock
101.9-irrelevant when you have 660
98.7-ratings suck go either country, rock or back as Kiss
93.9- isn't it simulcasted on 105.9 why?
93.1-ratings are horrible go dance

103.5 is doing VERY well and is intentionally overlapping with their sister stations to not allow competition. Clearly it's working
101.9 sounds great and will help keep sports teams on their station
98.7 ratings will improve, especially if they get a baseball team
94.7- New Rock does not really work in NY without Howard in Mornings.

92.3 is pointless and hopeless. That should be on your list
94.7- New Rock? Did you not see their ratings cracking 2.1 and rising! without Stern they're doing well. Look at the Music intensified mornings in markets on alternative rock stations like 98.7 in LA and Radio 104.5 in Philly doing a lot better than with Stern. Rock does work in New York we're never given a chance ever. God forbid a station isn't A/C, CHR, Sports, or any Rhythmic format in NYC! It's a radio wasteland is what it's become! No variety!
 
92.3 Now serves a very important purpose - It allows for a well-balanced cluster at CBS Radio New York. The total spread now presents favorable male AND female demos.
 
XCountry285 said:
Radaioman said:
XCountry285 said:
103.5-not poor ratings just poor in terms of its format right now, keeps overlaping with other stations owned by CC in the market.
94.7-better become Rock
101.9-irrelevant when you have 660
98.7-ratings suck go either country, rock or back as Kiss
93.9- isn't it simulcasted on 105.9 why?
93.1-ratings are horrible go dance

103.5 is doing VERY well and is intentionally overlapping with their sister stations to not allow competition. Clearly it's working
101.9 sounds great and will help keep sports teams on their station
98.7 ratings will improve, especially if they get a baseball team
94.7- New Rock does not really work in NY without Howard in Mornings.

92.3 is pointless and hopeless. That should be on your list
94.7- New Rock? Did you not see their ratings cracking 2.1 and rising! without Stern they're doing well. Look at the Music intensified mornings in markets on alternative rock stations like 98.7 in LA and Radio 104.5 in Philly doing a lot better than with Stern. Rock does work in New York we're never given a chance ever. God forbid a station isn't A/C, CHR, Sports, or any Rhythmic format in NYC! It's a radio wasteland is what it's become! No variety!

Rock has been on in NY many times Outside of Howard it rarely had ratings. With technology like Sat and APPS, Men are first adopters and they aren't reliable with people meters. NY is a different city than those. Even Philly is much more of a rock town.
 
reelyreal said:
92.3 Now serves a very important purpose - It allows for a well-balanced cluster at CBS Radio New York. The total spread now presents favorable male AND female demos.

It's not a balanced cluster if no women are listening to them and they can't get decent ad rates. They are terrible in the ratings in their own demos. When the time passes that the upper management can safely admit mistake. it will go Country or K-Rock or something else non CHR.
 
chrocket87 said:
Whatever 92.3 flips to, expect it to be something that WINS.

WINS will eventually move to FM and evolve to a mostly local news-intensive talk format. When CBS unloads 1010, they'll pick up another FM and then you'll have a simulcast of WCBS Newsradio. CBS' heritage all-news outlets in San Francisco and Chicago simulcast on AM and FM and both are successful. The all-news simulcast will come to New York eventually. It's a matter of when, not if!

FM's future is in spoken word formats. This has been happening all over the country. It has now arrived in New York. :)
 
Lopaka said:
Then what would be the forecast for 1010? In fact, what is the trend for abandoned AM signals in general?

For now, don't fix what isn't broken. 1010 and 880 aren't changing anytime soon. If and when a change needs to happen, CBS has plenty of FM signals to consider.
 
mikerock said:
XCountry285 said:
...
94.7-better become Rock
101.9-irrelevant when you have 660
98.7-ratings suck go either country, rock or back as Kiss
93.1-ratings are horrible go dance
...

I wish I could vote that up.

You wish you could vote up a post containing some significant inaccuracies? OK then.
 
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