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The BOOK
- Thread starter probuttonpusher
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> Im interested to hear what everyone thinks about the latest
> Lakes region book
>
Very interesting-looks like WLNH and Mix 941 made significant gains. Mix really opened up some room against WJYY. I travel quite a bit and listen to Mix and JYY. Mix seems to have more of a personality-driven format. WHOM, Rock 101 and WOKQ should always do well with their signals. They're the few stations that seem to cover the entire market.
> Lakes region book
>
Very interesting-looks like WLNH and Mix 941 made significant gains. Mix really opened up some room against WJYY. I travel quite a bit and listen to Mix and JYY. Mix seems to have more of a personality-driven format. WHOM, Rock 101 and WOKQ should always do well with their signals. They're the few stations that seem to cover the entire market.
> > Im interested to hear what everyone thinks about the
> latest
> > Lakes region book
> >
> Very interesting-looks like WLNH and Mix 941 made
> significant gains. Mix really opened up some room against
> WJYY. I travel quite a bit and listen to Mix and JYY. Mix
> seems to have more of a personality-driven format.
I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained. While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs, tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market like the Lakes region.
> latest
> > Lakes region book
> >
> Very interesting-looks like WLNH and Mix 941 made
> significant gains. Mix really opened up some room against
> WJYY. I travel quite a bit and listen to Mix and JYY. Mix
> seems to have more of a personality-driven format.
I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained. While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs, tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market like the Lakes region.
> > > Im interested to hear what everyone thinks about the
> > latest
> > > Lakes region book
> > >
> > Very interesting-looks like WLNH and Mix 941 made
> > significant gains. Mix really opened up some room against
> > WJYY. I travel quite a bit and listen to Mix and JYY. Mix
> > seems to have more of a personality-driven format.
>
> I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained.
> While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY
> sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs,
> tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way
> too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market
> like the Lakes region.
>
If you check the ratings Mix pulled a 5.1. JYY was a 3.4.(See Radio & Records). I would say that's quite significant in Mix's favor. As we see in the Boston market, white-bread markets like the hip-hop sound.
> > latest
> > > Lakes region book
> > >
> > Very interesting-looks like WLNH and Mix 941 made
> > significant gains. Mix really opened up some room against
> > WJYY. I travel quite a bit and listen to Mix and JYY. Mix
> > seems to have more of a personality-driven format.
>
> I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained.
> While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY
> sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs,
> tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way
> too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market
> like the Lakes region.
>
If you check the ratings Mix pulled a 5.1. JYY was a 3.4.(See Radio & Records). I would say that's quite significant in Mix's favor. As we see in the Boston market, white-bread markets like the hip-hop sound.
>
> I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained.
> While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY
> sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs,
> tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way
> too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market
> like the Lakes region.
I too like Mix better. Yes, they do sound more big market, but they are also a liner station, Nassau is the king of killing personality! Mix has lots of personality and a broader playlist. Mix has a better signal too, although JYY cover more population. Interesting that Mix beats JYY even though their signal covers more peeps? What does that tell you??
>
> I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained.
> While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY
> sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs,
> tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way
> too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market
> like the Lakes region.
I too like Mix better. Yes, they do sound more big market, but they are also a liner station, Nassau is the king of killing personality! Mix has lots of personality and a broader playlist. Mix has a better signal too, although JYY cover more population. Interesting that Mix beats JYY even though their signal covers more peeps? What does that tell you??
>
>
> I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained.
> While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY
> sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs,
> tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way
> too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market
> like the Lakes region.
>
Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
> I'd heard the opposite...Mix took a hit while JYY gained.
> While CHR isn't really my cup of tea, I always thought 'JYY
> sounded much more "big market" than Mix...better djs,
> tighter more professional presentation, etc. Mix plays way
> too much hip-hop during the day for a white-bread market
> like the Lakes region.
>
Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
2
2longinbiz
Guest
Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no real-world broadcast experience think they know the business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is paramount. When you have many different people doing production or dubbing songs you will have differences in tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as good as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio newbies think is important, while few others, ie the listening public, even think about it. Same goes for "hitting the post".
BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
> If you check the ratings Mix pulled a 5.1. JYY was a
> 3.4.(See Radio & Records). I would say that's quite
> significant in Mix's favor. As we see in the Boston market,
> white-bread markets like the hip-hop sound.
>
All R&R posts is 12+ numbers, which means squat. What are the numbers in demos that count?
> 3.4.(See Radio & Records). I would say that's quite
> significant in Mix's favor. As we see in the Boston market,
> white-bread markets like the hip-hop sound.
>
All R&R posts is 12+ numbers, which means squat. What are the numbers in demos that count?
Wow I guess my 14 years of board opp experience isn't enough real-world.....hmmmm who knew
> Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> paramount. When you have many different people doing
> production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as good
> as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
> newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> "hitting the post".
>
> BTW, it is "you're", not your.
>
>
> > > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
>
> Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> paramount. When you have many different people doing
> production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as good
> as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
> newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> "hitting the post".
>
> BTW, it is "you're", not your.
>
>
> > > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
>
> > If you check the ratings Mix pulled a 5.1. JYY was a
> > 3.4.(See Radio & Records). I would say that's quite
> > significant in Mix's favor. As we see in the Boston
> market,
> > white-bread markets like the hip-hop sound.
> >
>
> All R&R posts is 12+ numbers, which means squat. What are
> the numbers in demos that count?
>
There he goes again, If he understood the format, he would know
MIX/94.1 plays the hits period. The station does not lean
Urban or Pop. Just the hits. Boston has the smallest ethnic
population of any top 15 market and Jamin BEATS Kiss all day
long. Here's the Facts; Woman 18-49 MIX beats JYY & LNH.
Adults 18-34 MIX Beats JYY & LNH. 6am-10am Adults 18-34
MIX beats JYY & LNH.
It's time "Bobby the D" gets a day job.....
> > 3.4.(See Radio & Records). I would say that's quite
> > significant in Mix's favor. As we see in the Boston
> market,
> > white-bread markets like the hip-hop sound.
> >
>
> All R&R posts is 12+ numbers, which means squat. What are
> the numbers in demos that count?
>
There he goes again, If he understood the format, he would know
MIX/94.1 plays the hits period. The station does not lean
Urban or Pop. Just the hits. Boston has the smallest ethnic
population of any top 15 market and Jamin BEATS Kiss all day
long. Here's the Facts; Woman 18-49 MIX beats JYY & LNH.
Adults 18-34 MIX Beats JYY & LNH. 6am-10am Adults 18-34
MIX beats JYY & LNH.
It's time "Bobby the D" gets a day job.....
2
2longinbiz
Guest
14 years as a "board-opp"??????? What does that tell you? Most board-ops get promoted wwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy before that. Keep on trying, though...you'll make it one day. PS-you'd be a far valuable employee if you learned to spell.
> Wow I guess my 14 years of board opp experience isn't enough
> real-world.....hmmmm who knew
>
>
>
> > Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> > real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> > business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> > placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> > paramount. When you have many different people doing
> > production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> > tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as
> good
> > as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> > "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> > doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> > segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
>
> > newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> > listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> > "hitting the post".
> >
> > BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> >
> >
> > > > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
> >
>
> Wow I guess my 14 years of board opp experience isn't enough
> real-world.....hmmmm who knew
>
>
>
> > Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> > real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> > business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> > placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> > paramount. When you have many different people doing
> > production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> > tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as
> good
> > as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> > "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> > doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> > segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
>
> > newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> > listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> > "hitting the post".
> >
> > BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> >
> >
> > > > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
> >
>
>
I know spelling is my downfall, as for the promotion your name says it all. There are a number of "personalitys" in this market who should have been gone a LONG time ago and yet they just hop from station to station. Some people get jobs because they USED to be something, leaving it hard for the good ones to get a break.
14 years as a "board-opp"??????? What does that tell you?
> Most board-ops get promoted wwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy before
> that. Keep on trying, though...you'll make it one day.
> PS-you'd be a far valuable employee if you learned to spell.
>
>
>
> > Wow I guess my 14 years of board opp experience isn't
> enough
> > real-world.....hmmmm who knew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to
> no
> > > real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> > > business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> > > placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> > > paramount. When you have many different people doing
> > > production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
>
> > > tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as
> > good
> > > as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> > > "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but
> I
> > > doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> > > segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something
> radio
> >
> > > newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> > > listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> > > "hitting the post".
> > >
> > > BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
> > >
> >
>
I know spelling is my downfall, as for the promotion your name says it all. There are a number of "personalitys" in this market who should have been gone a LONG time ago and yet they just hop from station to station. Some people get jobs because they USED to be something, leaving it hard for the good ones to get a break.
14 years as a "board-opp"??????? What does that tell you?
> Most board-ops get promoted wwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy before
> that. Keep on trying, though...you'll make it one day.
> PS-you'd be a far valuable employee if you learned to spell.
>
>
>
> > Wow I guess my 14 years of board opp experience isn't
> enough
> > real-world.....hmmmm who knew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to
> no
> > > real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> > > business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> > > placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> > > paramount. When you have many different people doing
> > > production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
>
> > > tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as
> > good
> > > as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> > > "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but
> I
> > > doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> > > segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something
> radio
> >
> > > newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> > > listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> > > "hitting the post".
> > >
> > > BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Its easy to be tight when your all computerized
> > >
> >
>
> Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> paramount. When you have many different people doing
> production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as good
> as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
> newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> "hitting the post".
>
> BTW, it is "you're", not your.
>
>
2 long, you know I am not " some people with little to no
> real-world broadcast experience "!
>
> real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> paramount. When you have many different people doing
> production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as good
> as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
> newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> "hitting the post".
>
> BTW, it is "you're", not your.
>
>
2 long, you know I am not " some people with little to no
> real-world broadcast experience "!
>
> >
> I know spelling is my downfall, as for the promotion your
> name says it all. There are a number of "personalitys" in
> this market who should have been gone a LONG time ago and
> yet they just hop from station to station. Some people get
> jobs because they USED to be something, leaving it hard for
> the good ones to get a break.
Good comeback!
As for "personalities" in the Concord-Lakes market...I can't think of even one. Yeah, there are quite a few who've been here forever but that's because they don't have the chops to make it in a larger market. The ones with talent move on pretty quick. You do make a good point about the next generation of broadcasters...there are very few opportunities to break into the biz these days...the stations that used provide entry-level jobs are totally automated now, and the rest are looking for someone with experience.
> I know spelling is my downfall, as for the promotion your
> name says it all. There are a number of "personalitys" in
> this market who should have been gone a LONG time ago and
> yet they just hop from station to station. Some people get
> jobs because they USED to be something, leaving it hard for
> the good ones to get a break.
Good comeback!
As for "personalities" in the Concord-Lakes market...I can't think of even one. Yeah, there are quite a few who've been here forever but that's because they don't have the chops to make it in a larger market. The ones with talent move on pretty quick. You do make a good point about the next generation of broadcasters...there are very few opportunities to break into the biz these days...the stations that used provide entry-level jobs are totally automated now, and the rest are looking for someone with experience.
>
>
> Good comeback!
> As for "personalities" in the Concord-Lakes market...I can't
> think of even one. Yeah, there are quite a few who've been
> here forever but that's because they don't have the chops to
> make it in a larger market. The ones with talent move on
> pretty quick. You do make a good point about the next
> generation of broadcasters...there are very few
> opportunities to break into the biz these days...the
> stations that used provide entry-level jobs are totally
> automated now, and the rest are looking for someone with
> experience.
>
I disagree with you one one point, I do believe there are some "personalitys" still in the market and have statyed do to having familys, the top 3 that come to mind are Pat Kelly, Fred Caruso and Heather Bishop. Those are 3 who could be in a bigger markets but have chosen to stay local to give themselves a good life with a family.
But you are right about the entry level thing. When I started back in the day my main job was bulking carts and reading the weather, why give a highschool kid that chance now when you can just voice trak it the friday before the weekend? I find it sad the most of the stations in this market are empty most of the time, if you dont believe me try calling for a request in the middle of the day on a weds. 9 xs out of 10 you get a receptionist or no answer at all!
>
> Good comeback!
> As for "personalities" in the Concord-Lakes market...I can't
> think of even one. Yeah, there are quite a few who've been
> here forever but that's because they don't have the chops to
> make it in a larger market. The ones with talent move on
> pretty quick. You do make a good point about the next
> generation of broadcasters...there are very few
> opportunities to break into the biz these days...the
> stations that used provide entry-level jobs are totally
> automated now, and the rest are looking for someone with
> experience.
>
I disagree with you one one point, I do believe there are some "personalitys" still in the market and have statyed do to having familys, the top 3 that come to mind are Pat Kelly, Fred Caruso and Heather Bishop. Those are 3 who could be in a bigger markets but have chosen to stay local to give themselves a good life with a family.
But you are right about the entry level thing. When I started back in the day my main job was bulking carts and reading the weather, why give a highschool kid that chance now when you can just voice trak it the friday before the weekend? I find it sad the most of the stations in this market are empty most of the time, if you dont believe me try calling for a request in the middle of the day on a weds. 9 xs out of 10 you get a receptionist or no answer at all!
> > >
> > I know spelling is my downfall, as for the promotion your
> > name says it all. There are a number of "personalitys" in
> > this market who should have been gone a LONG time ago and
> > yet they just hop from station to station. Some people get
>
> > jobs because they USED to be something, leaving it hard
> for
> > the good ones to get a break.
>
> Good comeback!
> As for "personalities" in the Concord-Lakes market...I can't
> think of even one. Yeah, there are quite a few who've been
> here forever but that's because they don't have the chops to
> make it in a larger market. The ones with talent move on
> pretty quick. You do make a good point about the next
> generation of broadcasters...there are very few
> opportunities to break into the biz these days...the
> stations that used provide entry-level jobs are totally
> automated now, and the rest are looking for someone with
> experience.
>
Does BobbyTheD ever, ever have anything good to say about anybody? Actually I can think of quite a few area personalities who not only have longevity, but are quite good. Warren Bailey, Fred Caruso, Pat Kelly, Dom Biello, JR, just to name a few. These guys not only have longevity, but apparently some loyalty as well. Bobby, sometimes it's not all about the 'big market'. Sometimes, it's about the quality of life. I'm on the road a lot, all over New England. And the Lakes is a beautiful place. Maybe they've found their paradise. I'm sure these guys' listeners don't think of them as 'not having the chops' for a bigger market. They all seem to be entrenched in their communities. Which I think is a good thing. Is BobbyTheD one of those guys in radio who kept getting bumped around, and could never settle on one gig? Maybe BobbyTheD just wasn't/isn't good enough. Sounds like BobbyTheD is a bit envious of job security and stability. I'm with BroadcastKing-BobbyTheD should get a day job.
> > I know spelling is my downfall, as for the promotion your
> > name says it all. There are a number of "personalitys" in
> > this market who should have been gone a LONG time ago and
> > yet they just hop from station to station. Some people get
>
> > jobs because they USED to be something, leaving it hard
> for
> > the good ones to get a break.
>
> Good comeback!
> As for "personalities" in the Concord-Lakes market...I can't
> think of even one. Yeah, there are quite a few who've been
> here forever but that's because they don't have the chops to
> make it in a larger market. The ones with talent move on
> pretty quick. You do make a good point about the next
> generation of broadcasters...there are very few
> opportunities to break into the biz these days...the
> stations that used provide entry-level jobs are totally
> automated now, and the rest are looking for someone with
> experience.
>
Does BobbyTheD ever, ever have anything good to say about anybody? Actually I can think of quite a few area personalities who not only have longevity, but are quite good. Warren Bailey, Fred Caruso, Pat Kelly, Dom Biello, JR, just to name a few. These guys not only have longevity, but apparently some loyalty as well. Bobby, sometimes it's not all about the 'big market'. Sometimes, it's about the quality of life. I'm on the road a lot, all over New England. And the Lakes is a beautiful place. Maybe they've found their paradise. I'm sure these guys' listeners don't think of them as 'not having the chops' for a bigger market. They all seem to be entrenched in their communities. Which I think is a good thing. Is BobbyTheD one of those guys in radio who kept getting bumped around, and could never settle on one gig? Maybe BobbyTheD just wasn't/isn't good enough. Sounds like BobbyTheD is a bit envious of job security and stability. I'm with BroadcastKing-BobbyTheD should get a day job.
2
2longinbiz
Guest
2 long, you know I am not " some people with little to no
> real-world broadcast experience "!
True, Jim. You are not included in that description. But I doubt anyone would dispute there are more than a few people on this and other boards who fancy themselves radio experts who've never been inside a station except as a visitor.
I agree with probuttonpushers' statement that there are far fewer entry level jobs in radio than there were 15 or so years ago-before the age of reliable automation and consolidation. That said, if you can't get promoted after 14 years of running a board....find another way to make a living. The good ones still get jobs. I'd suggest a heart-to-heart with his PD to find out why he's still a board-op after so many years.
Also, on the recent mentions of Pat Kelly and Fred Caruso...I've worked with Pat and agree he's a great guy on and off the air. I've met Fred, and find him very nice as well. I also must point out someone many of you may not know...Bruce Arnold on 1490 WCCM Haverhill MA. He's been on WCCM more than 40 years, and is one of the best people/teacher/mentor/boss I've ever worked for.
>
+
> > Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> > real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> > business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> > placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> > paramount. When you have many different people doing
> > production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> > tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as
> good
> > as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> > "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> > doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> > segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
>
> > newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> > listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> > "hitting the post".
> >
> > BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> >
> >
> 2 long, you know I am not " some people with little to no
> > real-world broadcast experience "!
> >
>
> real-world broadcast experience "!
True, Jim. You are not included in that description. But I doubt anyone would dispute there are more than a few people on this and other boards who fancy themselves radio experts who've never been inside a station except as a visitor.
I agree with probuttonpushers' statement that there are far fewer entry level jobs in radio than there were 15 or so years ago-before the age of reliable automation and consolidation. That said, if you can't get promoted after 14 years of running a board....find another way to make a living. The good ones still get jobs. I'd suggest a heart-to-heart with his PD to find out why he's still a board-op after so many years.
Also, on the recent mentions of Pat Kelly and Fred Caruso...I've worked with Pat and agree he's a great guy on and off the air. I've met Fred, and find him very nice as well. I also must point out someone many of you may not know...Bruce Arnold on 1490 WCCM Haverhill MA. He's been on WCCM more than 40 years, and is one of the best people/teacher/mentor/boss I've ever worked for.
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> > Not necessarily. Once again some people with little to no
> > real-world broadcast experience think they know the
> > business. When you are automated, the proper EOM tone
> > placement (which determines how "tight" you are) is
> > paramount. When you have many different people doing
> > production or dubbing songs you will have differences in
> > tone placement which can lead to segues that aren't as
> good
> > as they could be. A good board-op (always a rarity) can
> > "out-tight" any automation system 8 ways to Sunday, but I
> > doubt listeners grade stations on the quality of their
> > segues. "Tightness", IMHO, has always been something radio
>
> > newbies think is important, while few others, ie the
> > listening public, even think about it. Same goes for
> > "hitting the post".
> >
> > BTW, it is "you're", not your.
> >
> >
> 2 long, you know I am not " some people with little to no
> > real-world broadcast experience "!
> >
>
Lets just say I am more than a board opp but less then a PD, lets just leave it at that.
>
> I agree with probuttonpushers' statement that there are far
> fewer entry level jobs in radio than there were 15 or so
> years ago-before the age of reliable automation and
> consolidation. That said, if you can't get promoted after 14
> years of running a board....find another way to make a
> living. The good ones still get jobs. I'd suggest a
> heart-to-heart with his PD to find out why he's still a
> board-op after so many years.
> Also, on the recent mentions of Pat Kelly and Fred
> Caruso...I've worked with Pat and agree he's a great guy on
> and off the air. I've met Fred, and find him very nice as
> well. I also must point out someone many of you may not
> know...Bruce Arnold on 1490 WCCM Haverhill MA. He's been on
> WCCM more than 40 years, and is one of the best
> people/teacher/mentor/boss I've ever worked for.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by probuttonpusher on 01/23/06 11:41 PM.</FONT></P>
>
> I agree with probuttonpushers' statement that there are far
> fewer entry level jobs in radio than there were 15 or so
> years ago-before the age of reliable automation and
> consolidation. That said, if you can't get promoted after 14
> years of running a board....find another way to make a
> living. The good ones still get jobs. I'd suggest a
> heart-to-heart with his PD to find out why he's still a
> board-op after so many years.
> Also, on the recent mentions of Pat Kelly and Fred
> Caruso...I've worked with Pat and agree he's a great guy on
> and off the air. I've met Fred, and find him very nice as
> well. I also must point out someone many of you may not
> know...Bruce Arnold on 1490 WCCM Haverhill MA. He's been on
> WCCM more than 40 years, and is one of the best
> people/teacher/mentor/boss I've ever worked for.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by probuttonpusher on 01/23/06 11:41 PM.</FONT></P>
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