How's the Brew sounding? Have they added jocks other than Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside the market these days.
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The Brew
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> How's the Brew sounding? Have they added jocks other than
> Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside the
> market these days.
>
Contact me: energyx at gmail.com<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
> Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside the
> market these days.
>
Contact me: energyx at gmail.com<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
> > How's the Brew sounding? Have they added jocks other than
> > Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> > imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside
> the
> > market these days.
> >
> Contact me: energyx at gmail.com
>
Brew = The same 500 songs over and over, no dj's other than voice tracked Bob. This is nothing more than a cost cutting CC piece of crap.
I predict this station will not make it past the summer of 2006.
What is this, format #12 for 105.7FM? Maybe they should go back to the days of WNRJ The Power Pig. Wait that would hurt WNCI.
Don't get me started on the wasted high power move in 93.3FM.
Wow, Columbus is really a radio waste land with all the rim shot stations and crap formats.
> > Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> > imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside
> the
> > market these days.
> >
> Contact me: energyx at gmail.com
>
Brew = The same 500 songs over and over, no dj's other than voice tracked Bob. This is nothing more than a cost cutting CC piece of crap.
I predict this station will not make it past the summer of 2006.
What is this, format #12 for 105.7FM? Maybe they should go back to the days of WNRJ The Power Pig. Wait that would hurt WNCI.
Don't get me started on the wasted high power move in 93.3FM.
Wow, Columbus is really a radio waste land with all the rim shot stations and crap formats.
> > > How's the Brew sounding? Have they added jocks other
> than
> > > Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> > > imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside
> > the
> > > market these days.
> > >
> > Contact me: energyx at gmail.com
> >
> Brew = The same 500 songs over and over, no dj's other than
> voice tracked Bob. This is nothing more than a cost cutting
> CC piece of crap.
> I predict this station will not make it past the summer of
> 2006.
>
> What is this, format #12 for 105.7FM? Maybe they should go
> back to the days of WNRJ The Power Pig. Wait that would hurt
> WNCI.
>
> Don't get me started on the wasted high power move in
> 93.3FM.
>
> Wow, Columbus is really a radio waste land with all the rim
> shot stations and crap formats.
>
I think The Brew sounds pretty good. It's the closest thing we have to an 80's station right now, and I sure do miss Star 107.9 right now. As for 93.3...yeah a bit of a waste, but it has changed since they have signed on-air from Obetz.
> than
> > > Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> > > imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside
> > the
> > > market these days.
> > >
> > Contact me: energyx at gmail.com
> >
> Brew = The same 500 songs over and over, no dj's other than
> voice tracked Bob. This is nothing more than a cost cutting
> CC piece of crap.
> I predict this station will not make it past the summer of
> 2006.
>
> What is this, format #12 for 105.7FM? Maybe they should go
> back to the days of WNRJ The Power Pig. Wait that would hurt
> WNCI.
>
> Don't get me started on the wasted high power move in
> 93.3FM.
>
> Wow, Columbus is really a radio waste land with all the rim
> shot stations and crap formats.
>
I think The Brew sounds pretty good. It's the closest thing we have to an 80's station right now, and I sure do miss Star 107.9 right now. As for 93.3...yeah a bit of a waste, but it has changed since they have signed on-air from Obetz.
> As for 93.3...yeah a bit of a waste,
> but it has changed since they have signed on-air from Obetz.
I notice you said "changed", NOT "improved". With good reason. That station is not "a bit of a waste", it's an incomprehensible squandering of the most successful Columbus move-in maneuvering of the last 40 years. (That comment is not intended to criticize the staff's talent or abilities, it's directed at managemnt's absurd choice of direction for the station...if you can call that thing a format.)
What's happened with 93.3 is akin to winning lotto and then investing all the proceeds in a bogus Nigerian bank scheme.
I've noticed an interesting but unfortunate pattern emerging with how CC approaches new FM formats in Columbus, and it applies to both 93.3 and the Brew. Namely, Columbus gets the "honor" of being one of the first of a handful of CC markets to mimic a new format that has shown some success for CC in another market. 93.3 mimicked WSNI Philadelphia, and the Brew mimicked WQBW Milwaukee.
But "one of the first" to try the format soon turns out to be "one of the last", because just about the time Columbus gets the format it starts an irreversible decline on the original stations: SNI has never been able to recover from its longtime doldrums, and competitor Saga seems to have really blown the wind from the sails of Milwaukee's previously high-flying Brew.
Meanwhile, there are other new (or tweaked) approaches that make it to much greter numbers of CC markets, and these turn out to be a lot more successful that the oddballs that Columbus gets.
Does it make sense for a good-signal starved market like Columbus to be the one that's so quick to mimic a boutique format that has only been on in one prior market, and that has not yet proven its staying power? The answer is "no".
One slight defense to CC/Columbus's moves may be that they encountered unfortunate timing. If 93.3 had just moved in today; and 105.7 had flipped formats today instead of a few months ago, we MIGHT have seen something more sensible show up on both stations, especially 93.3. But I don't know...<P ID="signature">______________
Nu_Roo_2 formerly Nu__Roo formerly Nu_Roo</P>
> but it has changed since they have signed on-air from Obetz.
I notice you said "changed", NOT "improved". With good reason. That station is not "a bit of a waste", it's an incomprehensible squandering of the most successful Columbus move-in maneuvering of the last 40 years. (That comment is not intended to criticize the staff's talent or abilities, it's directed at managemnt's absurd choice of direction for the station...if you can call that thing a format.)
What's happened with 93.3 is akin to winning lotto and then investing all the proceeds in a bogus Nigerian bank scheme.
I've noticed an interesting but unfortunate pattern emerging with how CC approaches new FM formats in Columbus, and it applies to both 93.3 and the Brew. Namely, Columbus gets the "honor" of being one of the first of a handful of CC markets to mimic a new format that has shown some success for CC in another market. 93.3 mimicked WSNI Philadelphia, and the Brew mimicked WQBW Milwaukee.
But "one of the first" to try the format soon turns out to be "one of the last", because just about the time Columbus gets the format it starts an irreversible decline on the original stations: SNI has never been able to recover from its longtime doldrums, and competitor Saga seems to have really blown the wind from the sails of Milwaukee's previously high-flying Brew.
Meanwhile, there are other new (or tweaked) approaches that make it to much greter numbers of CC markets, and these turn out to be a lot more successful that the oddballs that Columbus gets.
Does it make sense for a good-signal starved market like Columbus to be the one that's so quick to mimic a boutique format that has only been on in one prior market, and that has not yet proven its staying power? The answer is "no".
One slight defense to CC/Columbus's moves may be that they encountered unfortunate timing. If 93.3 had just moved in today; and 105.7 had flipped formats today instead of a few months ago, we MIGHT have seen something more sensible show up on both stations, especially 93.3. But I don't know...<P ID="signature">______________
Nu_Roo_2 formerly Nu__Roo formerly Nu_Roo</P>
> > As for 93.3...yeah a bit of a waste,
> > but it has changed since they have signed on-air from
> Obetz.
>
> I notice you said "changed", NOT "improved". With good
> reason. That station is not "a bit of a waste", it's an
> incomprehensible squandering of the most successful Columbus
> move-in maneuvering of the last 40 years. (That comment is
> not intended to criticize the staff's talent or abilities,
> it's directed at managemnt's absurd choice of direction for
> the station...if you can call that thing a format.)
>
> What's happened with 93.3 is akin to winning lotto and then
> investing all the proceeds in a bogus Nigerian bank scheme.
>
> I've noticed an interesting but unfortunate pattern emerging
> with how CC approaches new FM formats in Columbus, and it
> applies to both 93.3 and the Brew. Namely, Columbus gets
> the "honor" of being one of the first of a handful of CC
> markets to mimic a new format that has shown some success
> for CC in another market. 93.3 mimicked WSNI Philadelphia,
> and the Brew mimicked WQBW Milwaukee.
>
> But "one of the first" to try the format soon turns out to
> be "one of the last", because just about the time Columbus
> gets the format it starts an irreversible decline on the
> original stations: SNI has never been able to recover from
> its longtime doldrums, and competitor Saga seems to have
> really blown the wind from the sails of Milwaukee's
> previously high-flying Brew.
>
> Meanwhile, there are other new (or tweaked) approaches that
> make it to much greter numbers of CC markets, and these turn
> out to be a lot more successful that the oddballs that
> Columbus gets.
>
> Does it make sense for a good-signal starved market like
> Columbus to be the one that's so quick to mimic a boutique
> format that has only been on in one prior market, and that
> has not yet proven its staying power? The answer is "no".
>
> One slight defense to CC/Columbus's moves may be that they
> encountered unfortunate timing. If 93.3 had just moved in
> today; and 105.7 had flipped formats today instead of a few
> months ago, we MIGHT have seen something more sensible show
> up on both stations, especially 93.3. But I don't know...
>
This is all very interesting. I haven't worked in the market since the early 90s. If it's not too much trouble can you give me a bit of a back story. 105 is a rimshot? as is 93.3? If so, where from? If not...what used to be on those frequencies? It's been a long time since I've been in town.
> > but it has changed since they have signed on-air from
> Obetz.
>
> I notice you said "changed", NOT "improved". With good
> reason. That station is not "a bit of a waste", it's an
> incomprehensible squandering of the most successful Columbus
> move-in maneuvering of the last 40 years. (That comment is
> not intended to criticize the staff's talent or abilities,
> it's directed at managemnt's absurd choice of direction for
> the station...if you can call that thing a format.)
>
> What's happened with 93.3 is akin to winning lotto and then
> investing all the proceeds in a bogus Nigerian bank scheme.
>
> I've noticed an interesting but unfortunate pattern emerging
> with how CC approaches new FM formats in Columbus, and it
> applies to both 93.3 and the Brew. Namely, Columbus gets
> the "honor" of being one of the first of a handful of CC
> markets to mimic a new format that has shown some success
> for CC in another market. 93.3 mimicked WSNI Philadelphia,
> and the Brew mimicked WQBW Milwaukee.
>
> But "one of the first" to try the format soon turns out to
> be "one of the last", because just about the time Columbus
> gets the format it starts an irreversible decline on the
> original stations: SNI has never been able to recover from
> its longtime doldrums, and competitor Saga seems to have
> really blown the wind from the sails of Milwaukee's
> previously high-flying Brew.
>
> Meanwhile, there are other new (or tweaked) approaches that
> make it to much greter numbers of CC markets, and these turn
> out to be a lot more successful that the oddballs that
> Columbus gets.
>
> Does it make sense for a good-signal starved market like
> Columbus to be the one that's so quick to mimic a boutique
> format that has only been on in one prior market, and that
> has not yet proven its staying power? The answer is "no".
>
> One slight defense to CC/Columbus's moves may be that they
> encountered unfortunate timing. If 93.3 had just moved in
> today; and 105.7 had flipped formats today instead of a few
> months ago, we MIGHT have seen something more sensible show
> up on both stations, especially 93.3. But I don't know...
>
This is all very interesting. I haven't worked in the market since the early 90s. If it's not too much trouble can you give me a bit of a back story. 105 is a rimshot? as is 93.3? If so, where from? If not...what used to be on those frequencies? It's been a long time since I've been in town.
> > How's the Brew sounding? Have they added jocks other than
> > Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> > imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside
> the
> > market these days.
> >
> Contact me: energyx at gmail.com
>
email sent
> > Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> > imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside
> the
> > market these days.
> >
> Contact me: energyx at gmail.com
>
email sent
> > > As for 93.3...yeah a bit of a waste,
> > > but it has changed since they have signed on-air from
> > Obetz.
> >
> > I notice you said "changed", NOT "improved". With good
> > reason. That station is not "a bit of a waste", it's an
> > incomprehensible squandering of the most successful
> Columbus
> > move-in maneuvering of the last 40 years. (That comment
> is
> > not intended to criticize the staff's talent or abilities,
>
> > it's directed at managemnt's absurd choice of direction
> for
> > the station...if you can call that thing a format.)
> >
> > What's happened with 93.3 is akin to winning lotto and
> then
> > investing all the proceeds in a bogus Nigerian bank
> scheme.
> >
> > I've noticed an interesting but unfortunate pattern
> emerging
> > with how CC approaches new FM formats in Columbus, and it
> > applies to both 93.3 and the Brew. Namely, Columbus gets
> > the "honor" of being one of the first of a handful of CC
> > markets to mimic a new format that has shown some success
> > for CC in another market. 93.3 mimicked WSNI
> Philadelphia,
> > and the Brew mimicked WQBW Milwaukee.
> >
> > But "one of the first" to try the format soon turns out to
>
> > be "one of the last", because just about the time Columbus
>
> > gets the format it starts an irreversible decline on the
> > original stations: SNI has never been able to recover
> from
> > its longtime doldrums, and competitor Saga seems to have
> > really blown the wind from the sails of Milwaukee's
> > previously high-flying Brew.
> >
> > Meanwhile, there are other new (or tweaked) approaches
> that
> > make it to much greter numbers of CC markets, and these
> turn
> > out to be a lot more successful that the oddballs that
> > Columbus gets.
> >
> > Does it make sense for a good-signal starved market like
> > Columbus to be the one that's so quick to mimic a boutique
>
> > format that has only been on in one prior market, and that
>
> > has not yet proven its staying power? The answer is "no".
>
> >
> > One slight defense to CC/Columbus's moves may be that they
>
> > encountered unfortunate timing. If 93.3 had just moved in
>
> > today; and 105.7 had flipped formats today instead of a
> few
> > months ago, we MIGHT have seen something more sensible
> show
> > up on both stations, especially 93.3. But I don't know...
>
> >
> This is all very interesting. I haven't worked in the market
> since the early 90s. If it's not too much trouble can you
> give me a bit of a back story. 105 is a rimshot? as is 93.3?
> If so, where from? If not...what used to be on those
> frequencies? It's been a long time since I've been in town.
>
Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite. (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill in more if they want.
105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in the mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus tower, with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin county.
As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a different frequency.<P ID="signature">______________
Nu_Roo_2 formerly Nu__Roo formerly Nu_Roo</P>
> > > but it has changed since they have signed on-air from
> > Obetz.
> >
> > I notice you said "changed", NOT "improved". With good
> > reason. That station is not "a bit of a waste", it's an
> > incomprehensible squandering of the most successful
> Columbus
> > move-in maneuvering of the last 40 years. (That comment
> is
> > not intended to criticize the staff's talent or abilities,
>
> > it's directed at managemnt's absurd choice of direction
> for
> > the station...if you can call that thing a format.)
> >
> > What's happened with 93.3 is akin to winning lotto and
> then
> > investing all the proceeds in a bogus Nigerian bank
> scheme.
> >
> > I've noticed an interesting but unfortunate pattern
> emerging
> > with how CC approaches new FM formats in Columbus, and it
> > applies to both 93.3 and the Brew. Namely, Columbus gets
> > the "honor" of being one of the first of a handful of CC
> > markets to mimic a new format that has shown some success
> > for CC in another market. 93.3 mimicked WSNI
> Philadelphia,
> > and the Brew mimicked WQBW Milwaukee.
> >
> > But "one of the first" to try the format soon turns out to
>
> > be "one of the last", because just about the time Columbus
>
> > gets the format it starts an irreversible decline on the
> > original stations: SNI has never been able to recover
> from
> > its longtime doldrums, and competitor Saga seems to have
> > really blown the wind from the sails of Milwaukee's
> > previously high-flying Brew.
> >
> > Meanwhile, there are other new (or tweaked) approaches
> that
> > make it to much greter numbers of CC markets, and these
> turn
> > out to be a lot more successful that the oddballs that
> > Columbus gets.
> >
> > Does it make sense for a good-signal starved market like
> > Columbus to be the one that's so quick to mimic a boutique
>
> > format that has only been on in one prior market, and that
>
> > has not yet proven its staying power? The answer is "no".
>
> >
> > One slight defense to CC/Columbus's moves may be that they
>
> > encountered unfortunate timing. If 93.3 had just moved in
>
> > today; and 105.7 had flipped formats today instead of a
> few
> > months ago, we MIGHT have seen something more sensible
> show
> > up on both stations, especially 93.3. But I don't know...
>
> >
> This is all very interesting. I haven't worked in the market
> since the early 90s. If it's not too much trouble can you
> give me a bit of a back story. 105 is a rimshot? as is 93.3?
> If so, where from? If not...what used to be on those
> frequencies? It's been a long time since I've been in town.
>
Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite. (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill in more if they want.
105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in the mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus tower, with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin county.
As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a different frequency.<P ID="signature">______________
Nu_Roo_2 formerly Nu__Roo formerly Nu_Roo</P>
D
dogman
Guest
> How's the Brew sounding? Have they added jocks other than
> Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside the
> market these days.
>
Bob O'Dell? wow... well, I'm sure they got him cheap.
> Bob O'Dell? Who's the station voice? How's the
> imaging...attitude like Jack? Hook me up I live outside the
> market these days.
>
Bob O'Dell? wow... well, I'm sure they got him cheap.
C
CMHDave
Guest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBWR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLZT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Radio_stations_in_Columbus,_Ohio
Seriously, I would consider everyone with some knowledge to update this. It's free and everyone can do it.
> Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but
> inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite.
> (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill
> in more if they want.
>
> 105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the
> early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of
> different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in the
> mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the
> early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever
> since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus tower,
> with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin
> county.
>
> As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ
> in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one
> point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and
> their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as
> "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its
> transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new
> commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade
> signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted
> with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I
> think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a
> different frequency.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLZT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Radio_stations_in_Columbus,_Ohio
Seriously, I would consider everyone with some knowledge to update this. It's free and everyone can do it.
> Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but
> inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite.
> (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill
> in more if they want.
>
> 105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the
> early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of
> different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in the
> mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the
> early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever
> since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus tower,
> with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin
> county.
>
> As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ
> in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one
> point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and
> their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as
> "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its
> transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new
> commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade
> signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted
> with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I
> think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a
> different frequency.
>
>
> Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but
> inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite.
> (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill
> in more if they want.
>
> 105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the
> early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of
> different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in the
> mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the
> early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever
> since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus tower,
> with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin
> county.
>
> As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ
> in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one
> point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and
> their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as
> "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its
> transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new
> commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade
> signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted
> with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I
> think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a
> different frequency.
>
The brew is on top of Nationwide with WNCI downtown. WKKJ is now on the old WFCB(WLZT) 94.3 frequency in Chillicothe.
<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
> Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but
> inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite.
> (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill
> in more if they want.
>
> 105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the
> early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of
> different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in the
> mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the
> early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever
> since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus tower,
> with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin
> county.
>
> As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ
> in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one
> point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and
> their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as
> "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its
> transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new
> commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade
> signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted
> with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I
> think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a
> different frequency.
>
The brew is on top of Nationwide with WNCI downtown. WKKJ is now on the old WFCB(WLZT) 94.3 frequency in Chillicothe.
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Updated WBWR to inculde where 105.7 originally was...at Otterbein College. Yes folks 105.7 didn't start in 1990 in Marysville, it started in Westerville sometime in the 80's.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBWR
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLZT
http://en.wi> kipedia.org/wiki/Category:Radio_stations_in_Columbus%2C_Ohio
>
>
> Seriously, I would consider everyone with some knowledge to
> update this. It's free and everyone can do it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBWR
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLZT
http://en.wi> kipedia.org/wiki/Category:Radio_stations_in_Columbus%2C_Ohio
>
>
> Seriously, I would consider everyone with some knowledge to
> update this. It's free and everyone can do it.
>
> >
> > Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but
> > inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite.
> > (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill
>
> > in more if they want.
> >
> > 105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the
> > early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of
> > different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in
> the
> > mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the
> > early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever
> > since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus
> tower,
> > with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin
> > county.
> >
> > As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ
>
> > in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one
> > point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and
>
> > their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as
> > "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its
> > transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new
> > commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade
>
> > signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted
> > with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I
> > think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a
> > different frequency.
> >
> The brew is on top of Nationwide with WNCI downtown. WKKJ is
> now on the old WFCB(WLZT) 94.3 frequency in Chillicothe.
>
Oops, of course...as you know, that's the transmit site for all the local CC FM's except LZT. Thanks for the correction.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > Ulk... I had a fairly detailed history typed up but
> > inadveretently wiped it out and don't want to rewrite.
> > (Sorry.) So I'll give you a few facts, and others can fill
>
> > in more if they want.
> >
> > 105.7 started as a Class A rimshot in Marysville in the
> > early 90's. Lots of different formats and a number of
> > different owners,with varying success. CC bought it in
> the
> > mid-nineties and moved city of license to Hilliard in the
> > early 2000's. Been some shade of Classic Rock/Hits ever
> > since then. Transmits from the big downtown Columbus
> tower,
> > with quite a decent Class A signal throughout Franklin
> > county.
> >
> > As for 93.3, for many years it was full-power country WKKJ
>
> > in Chillicothe. CC switched it to mainstream AC at one
> > point. After many machinations and maneuvering by CC and
>
> > their lawyers, 93.3 ended up a few years ago (?) as
> > "Ashville-Columbus" Class B WLZT Lite-FM with its
> > transmitter along the south leg of 270. First new
> > commercial Columbus FM in 40 years with a truly city-grade
>
> > signal covering the entire metro, and it is being wasted
> > with that weird oldies/soft AC hybrid "format". BTW, I
> > think KKJ still exists in Chillicothe as a Class A on a
> > different frequency.
> >
> The brew is on top of Nationwide with WNCI downtown. WKKJ is
> now on the old WFCB(WLZT) 94.3 frequency in Chillicothe.
>
Oops, of course...as you know, that's the transmit site for all the local CC FM's except LZT. Thanks for the correction.<P ID="signature">______________
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>
> Oops, of course...as you know, that's the transmit site for
> all the local CC FM's except LZT. Thanks for the
> correction.
>
WCOL is on the WBNS supertower.
WNCI & WBWR Nationwide building.
WLZT South-Side tall WTVN tower.
WMRN (coming soon) WOSU TV tower in Westerville.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Oops, of course...as you know, that's the transmit site for
> all the local CC FM's except LZT. Thanks for the
> correction.
>
WCOL is on the WBNS supertower.
WNCI & WBWR Nationwide building.
WLZT South-Side tall WTVN tower.
WMRN (coming soon) WOSU TV tower in Westerville.<P ID="signature">______________
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202.FM</P>
> Updated WBWR to inculde where 105.7 originally was...at
> Otterbein College. Yes folks 105.7 didn't start in 1990 in
> Marysville, it started in Westerville sometime in the 80's.
>
>
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBWR
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLZT
> http://en.wi>
> kipedia.org/wiki/Category:Radio_stations_in_Columbus%2C_Ohio
>
> >
> >
> > Seriously, I would consider everyone with some knowledge
> to
> > update this. It's free and everyone can do it.
> >
>
Ah yes, the Wiki. Henceforth, all history/nostalgia posts on this board should be re-titled "Wikipedia review/correction".
The Wiki write-up on 105.7 is really an excellent rundown, although it does have a few errors and fill-in opportunities (in addition to the OBN catch you corrected...although I could have sworn OBN was broadasting in the 70's, too).
Below is a sampling of the corrections/additions I can think of (I'm only going to post here at the moment, no Wiki edits). The biggest factual inaccuracies are covered in (1) and (3).
(1) When 105.7 became Arrow, 107.1 remained Top 40 for awhile. 107.1 later changed to Arrow as well, but the two Arrows didn't simulcast. 105.7 was a type of Classic Hits, a rock and pop/rock-leaning sound that also played plenty of 60's (including garage-band oldies like "G-L-O-R-I-A") and 80's. 107.1 was the all-70's Arrow, which played lots of poppier stuff like Abba, too.
(2) Re the reference to 105.7's late 97 flip (to the original version of the Fox, as WKFX): this was again a Classic Hits format. Plety of Bob Dylan, Beatles, Guess Who, Mellencamp and Petty in addition to the James Taylor and Elton John.
(3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original" Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately took over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had to be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the Nationwide purchase).
(4) 105.7 was moved to close-in Hilliard, not Columbus (this is correct in the summary. box).
Just as a bit of added history, Channel Z's ratings drop was probably primarily due to the fact that it had been shunted away to a far inferior signal in Marysille. When the same format was at 98.9, it routinely trounced CD101 12+. So I doubt the Wiki-give reason -- performance vs. CD101 -- was the driving force behind dumping alternative with 105.7's move-in and signal upgrade. Also, maybe CC was looking for a more compatible format for the Bob & Tom show, which I *believe* was added concurrently with the upgrade and format flip. Of course, when the Brew came along, B&T were dumped and soon picked up by severely signal-challenged rimshot WTDA (Ted-FM) 103.9 Westerville.
And backtracking a bit, the beginning-of-97 stunting at 105.7 was a loop of "Hang On Sloopy".<P ID="signature">______________
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> Otterbein College. Yes folks 105.7 didn't start in 1990 in
> Marysville, it started in Westerville sometime in the 80's.
>
>
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBWR
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLZT
> http://en.wi>
> kipedia.org/wiki/Category:Radio_stations_in_Columbus%2C_Ohio
>
> >
> >
> > Seriously, I would consider everyone with some knowledge
> to
> > update this. It's free and everyone can do it.
> >
>
Ah yes, the Wiki. Henceforth, all history/nostalgia posts on this board should be re-titled "Wikipedia review/correction".
The Wiki write-up on 105.7 is really an excellent rundown, although it does have a few errors and fill-in opportunities (in addition to the OBN catch you corrected...although I could have sworn OBN was broadasting in the 70's, too).
Below is a sampling of the corrections/additions I can think of (I'm only going to post here at the moment, no Wiki edits). The biggest factual inaccuracies are covered in (1) and (3).
(1) When 105.7 became Arrow, 107.1 remained Top 40 for awhile. 107.1 later changed to Arrow as well, but the two Arrows didn't simulcast. 105.7 was a type of Classic Hits, a rock and pop/rock-leaning sound that also played plenty of 60's (including garage-band oldies like "G-L-O-R-I-A") and 80's. 107.1 was the all-70's Arrow, which played lots of poppier stuff like Abba, too.
(2) Re the reference to 105.7's late 97 flip (to the original version of the Fox, as WKFX): this was again a Classic Hits format. Plety of Bob Dylan, Beatles, Guess Who, Mellencamp and Petty in addition to the James Taylor and Elton John.
(3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original" Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately took over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had to be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the Nationwide purchase).
(4) 105.7 was moved to close-in Hilliard, not Columbus (this is correct in the summary. box).
Just as a bit of added history, Channel Z's ratings drop was probably primarily due to the fact that it had been shunted away to a far inferior signal in Marysille. When the same format was at 98.9, it routinely trounced CD101 12+. So I doubt the Wiki-give reason -- performance vs. CD101 -- was the driving force behind dumping alternative with 105.7's move-in and signal upgrade. Also, maybe CC was looking for a more compatible format for the Bob & Tom show, which I *believe* was added concurrently with the upgrade and format flip. Of course, when the Brew came along, B&T were dumped and soon picked up by severely signal-challenged rimshot WTDA (Ted-FM) 103.9 Westerville.
And backtracking a bit, the beginning-of-97 stunting at 105.7 was a loop of "Hang On Sloopy".<P ID="signature">______________
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I don't know when Otterbein switched WOBN from 91.5 to 105.7 or why they did the switch, but they were stupid for not upgrading either 91.5 or 105.7, or they would have one hell of a signal on either frequency today and would putting every commercial station to shame in this town. WOBN signed on originally in 1968 at 91.5, and before that on AM starting in 1957 or 1958 (under calls WOBC). Part of the ground array for the AM station is still on campus next to Cowan Hall and is used now as a grounding system for the whole building.
>
> Ah yes, the Wiki. Henceforth, all history/nostalgia posts
> on this board should be re-titled "Wikipedia
> review/correction".
>
> The Wiki write-up on 105.7 is really an excellent rundown,
> although it does have a few errors and fill-in opportunities
> (in addition to the OBN catch you corrected...although I
> could have sworn OBN was broadasting in the 70's, too).
>
> Below is a sampling of the corrections/additions I can think
> of (I'm only going to post here at the moment, no Wiki
> edits). The biggest factual inaccuracies are covered in (1)
> and (3).
>
> (1) When 105.7 became Arrow, 107.1 remained Top 40 for
> awhile. 107.1 later changed to Arrow as well, but the two
> Arrows didn't simulcast. 105.7 was a type of Classic Hits,
> a rock and pop/rock-leaning sound that also played plenty of
> 60's (including garage-band oldies like "G-L-O-R-I-A") and
> 80's. 107.1 was the all-70's Arrow, which played lots of
> poppier stuff like Abba, too.
>
> (2) Re the reference to 105.7's late 97 flip (to the
> original version of the Fox, as WKFX): this was again a
> Classic Hits format. Plety of Bob Dylan, Beatles, Guess
> Who, Mellencamp and Petty in addition to the James Taylor
> and Elton John.
>
> (3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original"
> Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought
> Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately took
> over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had to
> be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the Nationwide
> purchase).
>
> (4) 105.7 was moved to close-in Hilliard, not Columbus
> (this is correct in the summary. box).
>
> Just as a bit of added history, Channel Z's ratings drop was
> probably primarily due to the fact that it had been shunted
> away to a far inferior signal in Marysille. When the same
> format was at 98.9, it routinely trounced CD101 12+. So I
> doubt the Wiki-give reason -- performance vs. CD101 -- was
> the driving force behind dumping alternative with 105.7's
> move-in and signal upgrade. Also, maybe CC was looking for
> a more compatible format for the Bob & Tom show, which I
> *believe* was added concurrently with the upgrade and format
> flip. Of course, when the Brew came along, B&T were dumped
> and soon picked up by severely signal-challenged rimshot
> WTDA (Ted-FM) 103.9 Westerville.
>
> And backtracking a bit, the beginning-of-97 stunting at
> 105.7 was a loop of "Hang On Sloopy".
>
>
> Ah yes, the Wiki. Henceforth, all history/nostalgia posts
> on this board should be re-titled "Wikipedia
> review/correction".
>
> The Wiki write-up on 105.7 is really an excellent rundown,
> although it does have a few errors and fill-in opportunities
> (in addition to the OBN catch you corrected...although I
> could have sworn OBN was broadasting in the 70's, too).
>
> Below is a sampling of the corrections/additions I can think
> of (I'm only going to post here at the moment, no Wiki
> edits). The biggest factual inaccuracies are covered in (1)
> and (3).
>
> (1) When 105.7 became Arrow, 107.1 remained Top 40 for
> awhile. 107.1 later changed to Arrow as well, but the two
> Arrows didn't simulcast. 105.7 was a type of Classic Hits,
> a rock and pop/rock-leaning sound that also played plenty of
> 60's (including garage-band oldies like "G-L-O-R-I-A") and
> 80's. 107.1 was the all-70's Arrow, which played lots of
> poppier stuff like Abba, too.
>
> (2) Re the reference to 105.7's late 97 flip (to the
> original version of the Fox, as WKFX): this was again a
> Classic Hits format. Plety of Bob Dylan, Beatles, Guess
> Who, Mellencamp and Petty in addition to the James Taylor
> and Elton John.
>
> (3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original"
> Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought
> Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately took
> over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had to
> be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the Nationwide
> purchase).
>
> (4) 105.7 was moved to close-in Hilliard, not Columbus
> (this is correct in the summary. box).
>
> Just as a bit of added history, Channel Z's ratings drop was
> probably primarily due to the fact that it had been shunted
> away to a far inferior signal in Marysille. When the same
> format was at 98.9, it routinely trounced CD101 12+. So I
> doubt the Wiki-give reason -- performance vs. CD101 -- was
> the driving force behind dumping alternative with 105.7's
> move-in and signal upgrade. Also, maybe CC was looking for
> a more compatible format for the Bob & Tom show, which I
> *believe* was added concurrently with the upgrade and format
> flip. Of course, when the Brew came along, B&T were dumped
> and soon picked up by severely signal-challenged rimshot
> WTDA (Ted-FM) 103.9 Westerville.
>
> And backtracking a bit, the beginning-of-97 stunting at
> 105.7 was a loop of "Hang On Sloopy".
>
>
> (3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original"
> Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought
> Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately took
> over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had to
> be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the Nationwide
> purchase).
Channel Z moved to 105.7 in August 1998. Channel Z was on 98.9 from January 1997 until August 1998. 105.7 was never urban after Hot. Maybe someone is thinking about 107.5 when it signed on as WJZA Urban AC around 1996?<P ID="signature">______________
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> (3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original"
> Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought
> Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately took
> over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had to
> be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the Nationwide
> purchase).
Channel Z moved to 105.7 in August 1998. Channel Z was on 98.9 from January 1997 until August 1998. 105.7 was never urban after Hot. Maybe someone is thinking about 107.5 when it signed on as WJZA Urban AC around 1996?<P ID="signature">______________
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202.FM</P>
C
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> Just as a bit of added history, Channel Z's ratings drop was
> probably primarily due to the fact that it had been shunted
> away to a far inferior signal in Marysille. When the same
> format was at 98.9, it routinely trounced CD101 12+. So I
> doubt the Wiki-give reason -- performance vs. CD101 -- was
> the driving force behind dumping alternative with 105.7's
> move-in and signal upgrade. Also, maybe CC was looking for
> a more compatible format for the Bob & Tom show, which I
> *believe* was added concurrently with the upgrade and format
> flip. Of course, when the Brew came along, B&T were dumped
> and soon picked up by severely signal-challenged rimshot
> WTDA (Ted-FM) 103.9 Westerville.
>
Correct, the switch from 105.7 Channel Z to 105.7 The Fox was stunted with "Prisoner of Love" aka "Prison B*tch" a song by Bob and Tom heard routinely before the CC self-imposed crackdown and the FCC's insanity.
> probably primarily due to the fact that it had been shunted
> away to a far inferior signal in Marysille. When the same
> format was at 98.9, it routinely trounced CD101 12+. So I
> doubt the Wiki-give reason -- performance vs. CD101 -- was
> the driving force behind dumping alternative with 105.7's
> move-in and signal upgrade. Also, maybe CC was looking for
> a more compatible format for the Bob & Tom show, which I
> *believe* was added concurrently with the upgrade and format
> flip. Of course, when the Brew came along, B&T were dumped
> and soon picked up by severely signal-challenged rimshot
> WTDA (Ted-FM) 103.9 Westerville.
>
Correct, the switch from 105.7 Channel Z to 105.7 The Fox was stunted with "Prisoner of Love" aka "Prison B*tch" a song by Bob and Tom heard routinely before the CC self-imposed crackdown and the FCC's insanity.
> >
> > (3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original"
>
> > Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought
> > Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately
> took
> > over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had
> to
> > be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the
> Nationwide
> > purchase).
>
> Channel Z moved to 105.7 in August 1998. Channel Z was on
> 98.9 from January 1997 until August 1998. 105.7 was never
> urban after Hot. Maybe someone is thinking about 107.5 when
> it signed on as WJZA Urban AC around 1996?
>
Thanks again for a correction, this time about Channel Z.
Z's move to 105.7 *was* concurrent with the closing of Jacor's acquisition of Nationwide, but that was in the month you cited, August '98. The Jan '97 Jacor switches (including the debut of Channel Z as a replacement for hot country WLLD on 98.9) took place after they acquired Arrows WAKS 105.7 and WAHC 107.1. I know 105.7's flip at that time was to country, but I can't recall what they did with 107.1.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > (3) 105.7 did not flip to urban from the 97/98 "original"
>
> > Fox. Instead, it remained the Fox until Jacor bought
> > Nationwide at the beginning of 97, and then immediately
> took
> > over 98.9's Channel Z's hit alternative format (98.9 had
> to
> > be divested, to Blue Chip, as a condition of the
> Nationwide
> > purchase).
>
> Channel Z moved to 105.7 in August 1998. Channel Z was on
> 98.9 from January 1997 until August 1998. 105.7 was never
> urban after Hot. Maybe someone is thinking about 107.5 when
> it signed on as WJZA Urban AC around 1996?
>
Thanks again for a correction, this time about Channel Z.
Z's move to 105.7 *was* concurrent with the closing of Jacor's acquisition of Nationwide, but that was in the month you cited, August '98. The Jan '97 Jacor switches (including the debut of Channel Z as a replacement for hot country WLLD on 98.9) took place after they acquired Arrows WAKS 105.7 and WAHC 107.1. I know 105.7's flip at that time was to country, but I can't recall what they did with 107.1.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Z's move to 105.7 *was* concurrent with the closing of
> Jacor's acquisition of Nationwide, but that was in the month
> you cited, August '98. The Jan '97 Jacor switches
> (including the debut of Channel Z as a replacement for hot
> country WLLD on 98.9) took place after they acquired Arrows
> WAKS 105.7 and WAHC 107.1. I know 105.7's flip at that time
> was to country, but I can't recall what they did with 107.1.
>
At one point 105.7 was Kicks Country while owned by Jacor, in fact durning that period Jacor also owned K 95.5 and both country stations where up at the Contient (before the big studio shuffle) 105.7 was "KicksCountry" for just a matter of a few months before it became a simocast with K95.5, 107.1 at the time was owned also by Jacor (along with K95.5 and QFM 96.3 before the nationwide purchase) and I beleive they are the ones that started the Big Wazoo Format on 107.1, the station started in a closet at the old WTVN / WLVQ Building before the big studio swap after the Jacor/Nationwide purchases. Correct me if I am wrong.
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> Jacor's acquisition of Nationwide, but that was in the month
> you cited, August '98. The Jan '97 Jacor switches
> (including the debut of Channel Z as a replacement for hot
> country WLLD on 98.9) took place after they acquired Arrows
> WAKS 105.7 and WAHC 107.1. I know 105.7's flip at that time
> was to country, but I can't recall what they did with 107.1.
>
At one point 105.7 was Kicks Country while owned by Jacor, in fact durning that period Jacor also owned K 95.5 and both country stations where up at the Contient (before the big studio shuffle) 105.7 was "KicksCountry" for just a matter of a few months before it became a simocast with K95.5, 107.1 at the time was owned also by Jacor (along with K95.5 and QFM 96.3 before the nationwide purchase) and I beleive they are the ones that started the Big Wazoo Format on 107.1, the station started in a closet at the old WTVN / WLVQ Building before the big studio swap after the Jacor/Nationwide purchases. Correct me if I am wrong.
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