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The death of WGLD 1440...
- Thread starter pdq
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> Fybush.com reported this week they were on the air to meet
> regs
> to keep the license.
Thanks to Fybush for "reporting" reasonable speculation that was made on this board two weeks ago. I assumed that with the STA dismissed, combined with BL40Modulimiter's post that said the transmitter site was trashed, that 1440 was history. Obviously, they found a way to put it back on from the Red Lion site, even with 96.1's tower within rock throwing distance.
A couple of days ago, according to FCC documents, Susquehanna filed and gained approval on a "resumption of service," declaring that the station had returned to the air on November 2nd. That's the day I heard it. I have not heard it since, though I've only checked occasionally. A question for the engineering types who frequent this board: what are the minimum hours a station must broadcast in order to maintain that it is "operating?" Must it operate daily, weekly, monthly?
I'm glad they didn't trash the license. Hate to see a station disappear through neglect. It's bad business to let a license expire. Even a little AM in Red Lion is worth something.
> regs
> to keep the license.
Thanks to Fybush for "reporting" reasonable speculation that was made on this board two weeks ago. I assumed that with the STA dismissed, combined with BL40Modulimiter's post that said the transmitter site was trashed, that 1440 was history. Obviously, they found a way to put it back on from the Red Lion site, even with 96.1's tower within rock throwing distance.
A couple of days ago, according to FCC documents, Susquehanna filed and gained approval on a "resumption of service," declaring that the station had returned to the air on November 2nd. That's the day I heard it. I have not heard it since, though I've only checked occasionally. A question for the engineering types who frequent this board: what are the minimum hours a station must broadcast in order to maintain that it is "operating?" Must it operate daily, weekly, monthly?
I'm glad they didn't trash the license. Hate to see a station disappear through neglect. It's bad business to let a license expire. Even a little AM in Red Lion is worth something.
S
SamBuca
Guest
> A
> question for the engineering types who frequent this board:
> what are the minimum hours a station must broadcast in order
> to maintain that it is "operating?" Must it operate daily,
> weekly, monthly?
FCC 73.1635:
(4) An STA may be granted for an initial
period not to exceed 180 days. A
limited number of extensions of such
authorizations may be granted for additional
periods not exceeding 180 days
per extension. An STA necessitated by
technical or equipment problems, however,
may, in practice, be granted for
an initial period not to exceed 90 days
with a limited number of extensions
not to exceed 90 days per extension.
The permittee or licensee must demonstrate
that any further extensions
requested are necessary and that all
steps to resume normal operation are
being undertaken in an expeditions and
timely fashion. The license of a broadcasting
station that fails to transmit
broadcast signals for any consecutive
12-month period expires as a matter of
law at the end of that period, notwithstanding
any STA or provision, term,
or condition of the license to the contrary.
(emphasis added)<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> question for the engineering types who frequent this board:
> what are the minimum hours a station must broadcast in order
> to maintain that it is "operating?" Must it operate daily,
> weekly, monthly?
FCC 73.1635:
(4) An STA may be granted for an initial
period not to exceed 180 days. A
limited number of extensions of such
authorizations may be granted for additional
periods not exceeding 180 days
per extension. An STA necessitated by
technical or equipment problems, however,
may, in practice, be granted for
an initial period not to exceed 90 days
with a limited number of extensions
not to exceed 90 days per extension.
The permittee or licensee must demonstrate
that any further extensions
requested are necessary and that all
steps to resume normal operation are
being undertaken in an expeditions and
timely fashion. The license of a broadcasting
station that fails to transmit
broadcast signals for any consecutive
12-month period expires as a matter of
law at the end of that period, notwithstanding
any STA or provision, term,
or condition of the license to the contrary.
(emphasis added)<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
S
SamBuca
Guest
> Fybush.com reported this week they were on the air to meet
> regs
> to keep the license.
If they lost the license, then wouldn't it go up on the auction block? I don't believe licenses just disappear.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> regs
> to keep the license.
If they lost the license, then wouldn't it go up on the auction block? I don't believe licenses just disappear.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Thank you, SamBuca. That would appear to answer my question. In other words, if a station is operated, however briefly, any time during a 12 month period, it is considered to be "operating" and the license remains valid, correct? If not, the license is forfeited. As I recall, that's part of what happened with the former WGSA 1310 in Ephrata, many years ago.
In regard to your question further up, I remember hearing a long time ago that in an effort to de-clutter the AM band, the FCC ruled not to allow dark AM licenses to come back once they had expired. FMs are a different story.
The finer points of FCC rules are not my strong suit. Thanks for the answer!
> > A
> > question for the engineering types who frequent this
> board:
> > what are the minimum hours a station must broadcast in
> order
> > to maintain that it is "operating?" Must it operate
> daily,
> > weekly, monthly?
>
> FCC 73.1635:
>
> (4) An STA may be granted for an initial
> period not to exceed 180 days. A
> limited number of extensions of such
> authorizations may be granted for additional
> periods not exceeding 180 days
> per extension. An STA necessitated by
> technical or equipment problems, however,
> may, in practice, be granted for
> an initial period not to exceed 90 days
> with a limited number of extensions
> not to exceed 90 days per extension.
> The permittee or licensee must demonstrate
> that any further extensions
> requested are necessary and that all
> steps to resume normal operation are
> being undertaken in an expeditions and
> timely fashion. The license of a broadcasting
> station that fails to transmit
> broadcast signals for any consecutive
> 12-month period expires as a matter of
> law at the end of that period, notwithstanding
> any STA or provision, term,
> or condition of the license to the contrary.
>
> (emphasis added)
>
In regard to your question further up, I remember hearing a long time ago that in an effort to de-clutter the AM band, the FCC ruled not to allow dark AM licenses to come back once they had expired. FMs are a different story.
The finer points of FCC rules are not my strong suit. Thanks for the answer!
> > A
> > question for the engineering types who frequent this
> board:
> > what are the minimum hours a station must broadcast in
> order
> > to maintain that it is "operating?" Must it operate
> daily,
> > weekly, monthly?
>
> FCC 73.1635:
>
> (4) An STA may be granted for an initial
> period not to exceed 180 days. A
> limited number of extensions of such
> authorizations may be granted for additional
> periods not exceeding 180 days
> per extension. An STA necessitated by
> technical or equipment problems, however,
> may, in practice, be granted for
> an initial period not to exceed 90 days
> with a limited number of extensions
> not to exceed 90 days per extension.
> The permittee or licensee must demonstrate
> that any further extensions
> requested are necessary and that all
> steps to resume normal operation are
> being undertaken in an expeditions and
> timely fashion. The license of a broadcasting
> station that fails to transmit
> broadcast signals for any consecutive
> 12-month period expires as a matter of
> law at the end of that period, notwithstanding
> any STA or provision, term,
> or condition of the license to the contrary.
>
> (emphasis added)
>
S
SamBuca
Guest
> In regard to your question further up, I remember hearing a
> long time ago that in an effort to de-clutter the AM band,
> the FCC ruled not to allow dark AM licenses to come back
> once they had expired. FMs are a different story.
If they're letting the license go dark...hell...give it to me and I'll even pay for the paperwork. I need a new toy for christmas.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> long time ago that in an effort to de-clutter the AM band,
> the FCC ruled not to allow dark AM licenses to come back
> once they had expired. FMs are a different story.
If they're letting the license go dark...hell...give it to me and I'll even pay for the paperwork. I need a new toy for christmas.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
The FCC is not licensing any new daytimers. They don't have a ban on issuing new AM licenses. Then again, most of the AM stations going dark are daytimers with flea-sized night power.
And I understood the rules of operation to mean that a station must be on the air for two-thirds of its licensed air time. For instance, that means a daytimer (even if it has flea-powered night status) would only need to be on the air for two-thirds of the daytime hours, as specified by the license, seven days a week.
And I understood the rules of operation to mean that a station must be on the air for two-thirds of its licensed air time. For instance, that means a daytimer (even if it has flea-powered night status) would only need to be on the air for two-thirds of the daytime hours, as specified by the license, seven days a week.
> > Fybush.com reported this week they were on the air to meet
>
> > regs
> > to keep the license.
>
> Thanks to Fybush for "reporting" reasonable speculation that
> was made on this board two weeks ago. I assumed that with
> the STA dismissed, combined with BL40Modulimiter's post that
> said the transmitter site was trashed, that 1440 was
> history. Obviously, they found a way to put it back on from
> the Red Lion site, even with 96.1's tower within rock
> throwing distance.
And thanks for the air quotes. For what it's worth, I've been in pretty close contact with the guy who's trying to buy 1440 from Susquecumulus, and the information about WGLD being back on the air came from him, not from this board. If I "reported" all the speculation on this board - like the incorrect information about the tx site being trashed (it's not) - I wouldn't be in my twelfth year of doing what I'm doing.
The operation on 1440 the other day was very temporary, obviously, and done under an STA. If/when 1440 comes back for real (and they've just bought themselves another 12 months to pull that off), it will be from a short antenna at a different site.
The FCC doesn't like to see any signal go dark for good. If a reasonable effort is being made to get it back on the air, as is the case with WGLD, they're more than willing to keep issuing STAs to keep the license alive. The one rule the FCC can't waive, since it's written into federal law, is the "12 months and you're dead" rule - but the Commission can, and does, allow stations to barely meet the letter of the law by signing on for a day just before the license would expire. <P ID="signature">______________
Tower Site Calendar 2006 JUST RELEASED! - <a target="_blank" href=http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html#calendar>www.fybush.com</a></P>
>
> > regs
> > to keep the license.
>
> Thanks to Fybush for "reporting" reasonable speculation that
> was made on this board two weeks ago. I assumed that with
> the STA dismissed, combined with BL40Modulimiter's post that
> said the transmitter site was trashed, that 1440 was
> history. Obviously, they found a way to put it back on from
> the Red Lion site, even with 96.1's tower within rock
> throwing distance.
And thanks for the air quotes. For what it's worth, I've been in pretty close contact with the guy who's trying to buy 1440 from Susquecumulus, and the information about WGLD being back on the air came from him, not from this board. If I "reported" all the speculation on this board - like the incorrect information about the tx site being trashed (it's not) - I wouldn't be in my twelfth year of doing what I'm doing.
The operation on 1440 the other day was very temporary, obviously, and done under an STA. If/when 1440 comes back for real (and they've just bought themselves another 12 months to pull that off), it will be from a short antenna at a different site.
The FCC doesn't like to see any signal go dark for good. If a reasonable effort is being made to get it back on the air, as is the case with WGLD, they're more than willing to keep issuing STAs to keep the license alive. The one rule the FCC can't waive, since it's written into federal law, is the "12 months and you're dead" rule - but the Commission can, and does, allow stations to barely meet the letter of the law by signing on for a day just before the license would expire. <P ID="signature">______________
Tower Site Calendar 2006 JUST RELEASED! - <a target="_blank" href=http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html#calendar>www.fybush.com</a></P>
S
SamBuca
Guest
> The operation on 1440 the other day was very temporary,
> obviously, and done under an STA. If/when 1440 comes back
> for real (and they've just bought themselves another 12
> months to pull that off), it will be from a short antenna at
> a different site.
Relocate the license to york and share the stick with WQXA-AM. I hear QXA got a new xmtr, too.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> obviously, and done under an STA. If/when 1440 comes back
> for real (and they've just bought themselves another 12
> months to pull that off), it will be from a short antenna at
> a different site.
Relocate the license to york and share the stick with WQXA-AM. I hear QXA got a new xmtr, too.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> > The operation on 1440 the other day was very temporary,
> > obviously, and done under an STA. If/when 1440 comes back
> > for real (and they've just bought themselves another 12
> > months to pull that off), it will be from a short antenna
> at
> > a different site.
>
> Relocate the license to york and share the stick with
> WQXA-AM. I hear QXA got a new xmtr, too.
You'd need a major change window to do that, and there won't be another one of those for years (the FCC's just starting to issue the first CPs from the last one, which was almost two years ago now).
It'll still be a Red Lion station when it comes back (whenever that is)...<P ID="signature">______________
Tower Site Calendar 2006 JUST RELEASED! - <a target="_blank" href=http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html#calendar>www.fybush.com</a></P>
> > obviously, and done under an STA. If/when 1440 comes back
> > for real (and they've just bought themselves another 12
> > months to pull that off), it will be from a short antenna
> at
> > a different site.
>
> Relocate the license to york and share the stick with
> WQXA-AM. I hear QXA got a new xmtr, too.
You'd need a major change window to do that, and there won't be another one of those for years (the FCC's just starting to issue the first CPs from the last one, which was almost two years ago now).
It'll still be a Red Lion station when it comes back (whenever that is)...<P ID="signature">______________
Tower Site Calendar 2006 JUST RELEASED! - <a target="_blank" href=http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html#calendar>www.fybush.com</a></P>
> For what it's worth, I've
> been in pretty close contact with the guy who's trying to
> buy 1440 from Susquecumulus, and the information about WGLD
> being back on the air came from him, not from this board.
Hmmm ... why do I wanna wager that the WOYK/WPDC folks are somehow involved in this?
> been in pretty close contact with the guy who's trying to
> buy 1440 from Susquecumulus, and the information about WGLD
> being back on the air came from him, not from this board.
Hmmm ... why do I wanna wager that the WOYK/WPDC folks are somehow involved in this?
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