Does anyone perceive a decline in the glut of political talk hosts? At a time when it's hard to find a "talk host" who isn't a Rush-clone, I live for the day when the situation turns around and we get a more interesting variety of entertainment-oriented hosts. Thoughts, anyone?
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The Decline Of Poly-Talk?
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Gnarlodious
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Is this a trend?
Offhand I can name 4 very entertaining national political talkers, Michael Savage, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and Thom Hartmann. 2 of those are on Air America, 3 are lefties and 1 is a rightie. Most of the rest as far as I can tell are pretty much insipid. I'm sure this post will get some comments...<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
Offhand I can name 4 very entertaining national political talkers, Michael Savage, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and Thom Hartmann. 2 of those are on Air America, 3 are lefties and 1 is a rightie. Most of the rest as far as I can tell are pretty much insipid. I'm sure this post will get some comments...<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
> Does anyone perceive a decline in the glut of political talk
> hosts? At a time when it's hard to find a "talk host" who
> isn't a Rush-clone, I live for the day when the situation
> turns around and we get a more interesting variety of
> entertainment-oriented hosts. Thoughts, anyone?
The rest of the lot isn't terribly compelling. There's a reason why Snodsmith is on during the weekends. Anyone want to hear three hours of The Dolan's?
Bruce Williams has been reduced to broadcasting over a ton of small market outlets, and outside of Joy Browne, we all saw what happened to personal problem talk with the Shiite Dr. Laura and her "values."
That leaves the Hot Talk zoo and party hosts like Don & Mike or Tom Leykis. But both appeal only to a select male demo, and the latter's ridiculous aging frat-boy beer blast party shows scare everybody away.
> hosts? At a time when it's hard to find a "talk host" who
> isn't a Rush-clone, I live for the day when the situation
> turns around and we get a more interesting variety of
> entertainment-oriented hosts. Thoughts, anyone?
The rest of the lot isn't terribly compelling. There's a reason why Snodsmith is on during the weekends. Anyone want to hear three hours of The Dolan's?
Bruce Williams has been reduced to broadcasting over a ton of small market outlets, and outside of Joy Browne, we all saw what happened to personal problem talk with the Shiite Dr. Laura and her "values."
That leaves the Hot Talk zoo and party hosts like Don & Mike or Tom Leykis. But both appeal only to a select male demo, and the latter's ridiculous aging frat-boy beer blast party shows scare everybody away.
Re: Is this a trend?
I won't quarrel with 3 of your nominees (I'm tempted with Savage but I'll let it go) but Mike Malloy? Mike MALLOY!? He shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> Offhand I can name 4 very entertaining national political
> talkers, Michael Savage, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and Thom
> Hartmann. 2 of those are on Air America, 3 are lefties and 1
> is a rightie. Most of the rest as far as I can tell are
> pretty much insipid. I'm sure this post will get some
> comments...
>
I won't quarrel with 3 of your nominees (I'm tempted with Savage but I'll let it go) but Mike Malloy? Mike MALLOY!? He shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> Offhand I can name 4 very entertaining national political
> talkers, Michael Savage, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and Thom
> Hartmann. 2 of those are on Air America, 3 are lefties and 1
> is a rightie. Most of the rest as far as I can tell are
> pretty much insipid. I'm sure this post will get some
> comments...
>
Re: Is this a trend?
> > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> True, but he IS entertaining :=)
>
Malloy is the polar opposite of Savage. They are both filled with anger and venom. Both are entertaining, but sometimes a little goes a long way. I somehow feel Malloy is trying to be the opposite of Savage. He didn't do the heavy duty pissed-off routine with WLS. He was certainly to the left, but his delivery was much more subdued. I think that is why many stations carry Lionel rather then Malloy.
> > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> True, but he IS entertaining :=)
>
Malloy is the polar opposite of Savage. They are both filled with anger and venom. Both are entertaining, but sometimes a little goes a long way. I somehow feel Malloy is trying to be the opposite of Savage. He didn't do the heavy duty pissed-off routine with WLS. He was certainly to the left, but his delivery was much more subdued. I think that is why many stations carry Lionel rather then Malloy.
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drtylawndre
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Re: Is this a trend? 911
would another 911 type event be good for talk radio
would another 911 type event be good for talk radio
Lib Talk
Malloy's problem is that he is bitter on the air. I think that may be the greatest problem for Left of Center talk at the moment.
Malloy is talented for sure. He is bitter, angry. That does not sell.
> > > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> > True, but he IS entertaining :=)
> >
> Malloy is the polar opposite of Savage. They are both filled
> with anger and venom. Both are entertaining, but sometimes a
> little goes a long way. I somehow feel Malloy is trying to
> be the opposite of Savage. He didn't do the heavy duty
> pissed-off routine with WLS. He was certainly to the left,
> but his delivery was much more subdued. I think that is why
> many stations carry Lionel rather then Malloy.
>
Malloy's problem is that he is bitter on the air. I think that may be the greatest problem for Left of Center talk at the moment.
Malloy is talented for sure. He is bitter, angry. That does not sell.
> > > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> > True, but he IS entertaining :=)
> >
> Malloy is the polar opposite of Savage. They are both filled
> with anger and venom. Both are entertaining, but sometimes a
> little goes a long way. I somehow feel Malloy is trying to
> be the opposite of Savage. He didn't do the heavy duty
> pissed-off routine with WLS. He was certainly to the left,
> but his delivery was much more subdued. I think that is why
> many stations carry Lionel rather then Malloy.
>
Re: Is this a trend?
> > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> True, but he IS entertaining :=)
>
What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his inability to string words into coherent sentences? Oh, yeah, and his anger is such a great complement to the other two attributes.
> > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> True, but he IS entertaining :=)
>
What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his inability to string words into coherent sentences? Oh, yeah, and his anger is such a great complement to the other two attributes.
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Gnarlodious
Guest
Re: Is this a trend?
> > > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> > True, but he IS entertaining :=)
> What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his
> inability to string words into coherent sentences?
I said he was entertaining, not intelligent :=)
Actually, Malloys finest format was a kids call-in show he would have on Friday evenings, but I haven't heard it in a while. That kind of program for kids (high and junior high kids) brought out his better side, and the callers were suprisingly intelligent. Someone should take the idea and develop it into a format.<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
> > > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> > True, but he IS entertaining :=)
> What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his
> inability to string words into coherent sentences?
I said he was entertaining, not intelligent :=)
Actually, Malloys finest format was a kids call-in show he would have on Friday evenings, but I haven't heard it in a while. That kind of program for kids (high and junior high kids) brought out his better side, and the callers were suprisingly intelligent. Someone should take the idea and develop it into a format.<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
Re: Is this a trend?
> Offhand I can name 4 very entertaining national political
> talkers, Michael Savage, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and Thom
> Hartmann. 2 of those are on Air America, 3 are lefties and 1
> is a rightie. Most of the rest as far as I can tell are
> pretty much insipid. I'm sure this post will get some
> comments...
I liked listening to Malloy on IE America when lib talk was marginalized. Now that lib talk is mainstream, I find his whining and anger to be a bit tedious. He was more relaxed on IE America, he had great rapport with callers, and more interaction with his wife, who is also his producer. It was better show to a much smaller audience.
> Offhand I can name 4 very entertaining national political
> talkers, Michael Savage, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and Thom
> Hartmann. 2 of those are on Air America, 3 are lefties and 1
> is a rightie. Most of the rest as far as I can tell are
> pretty much insipid. I'm sure this post will get some
> comments...
I liked listening to Malloy on IE America when lib talk was marginalized. Now that lib talk is mainstream, I find his whining and anger to be a bit tedious. He was more relaxed on IE America, he had great rapport with callers, and more interaction with his wife, who is also his producer. It was better show to a much smaller audience.
Re: Is this a trend?
> > > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> > True, but he IS entertaining :=)
> >
>
> What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his
> inability to string words into coherent sentences? Oh, yeah,
> and his anger is such a great complement to the other two
> attributes.
>
Huh? He has more energy and is much more glib than Al Franken, for one example. I wish he'd tone down the anger a little, but the energy and glibness levels are just fine with me.
> > > Mike MALLOY!? He
> > > shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
> > True, but he IS entertaining :=)
> >
>
> What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his
> inability to string words into coherent sentences? Oh, yeah,
> and his anger is such a great complement to the other two
> attributes.
>
Huh? He has more energy and is much more glib than Al Franken, for one example. I wish he'd tone down the anger a little, but the energy and glibness levels are just fine with me.
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Gnarlodious
Guest
Malloy burlesque
> It was better show to a much smaller audience.
And also had a more issue-oriented show instead of all the burlesque he does now. With ieAmerica's daytime schedule he was forced to mind his p's and q's. He was so anticipating the evening hours so he could "let it all hang out", but I fear that was his undoing.<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
> It was better show to a much smaller audience.
And also had a more issue-oriented show instead of all the burlesque he does now. With ieAmerica's daytime schedule he was forced to mind his p's and q's. He was so anticipating the evening hours so he could "let it all hang out", but I fear that was his undoing.<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
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Tom_
Guest
Re: Mike Malloy discussed the evolution in his on air style...
> I liked listening to Malloy on IE America when lib talk was
> marginalized. Now that lib talk is mainstream, I find his
> whining and anger to be a bit tedious. He was more relaxed
> on IE America, he had great rapport with callers, and more
> interaction with his wife, who is also his producer. It was
> better show to a much smaller audience.
Barooos...Very interesting observation...because last week, Mike Malloy even said on the air that his language/style has become more aggressive than it had been in the past, because of his frustration with the current President...
Would you have similar observations for any other liberal hosts who are very passionate in their frustrations with the current adminstration???
On 710 KIRO/ Seattle, liberal talk host Carl Jeffers says that he doesn't like that style of liberal talk radio, and he calls his show "On Fire" because he lets the callers make all the aggressive comments while he listens and offers rational, articulate viewpoints in response to what they have to say.
> I liked listening to Malloy on IE America when lib talk was
> marginalized. Now that lib talk is mainstream, I find his
> whining and anger to be a bit tedious. He was more relaxed
> on IE America, he had great rapport with callers, and more
> interaction with his wife, who is also his producer. It was
> better show to a much smaller audience.
Barooos...Very interesting observation...because last week, Mike Malloy even said on the air that his language/style has become more aggressive than it had been in the past, because of his frustration with the current President...
Would you have similar observations for any other liberal hosts who are very passionate in their frustrations with the current adminstration???
On 710 KIRO/ Seattle, liberal talk host Carl Jeffers says that he doesn't like that style of liberal talk radio, and he calls his show "On Fire" because he lets the callers make all the aggressive comments while he listens and offers rational, articulate viewpoints in response to what they have to say.
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Tom_
Guest
Re: Malloy
> I won't quarrel with 3 of your nominees (I'm tempted with
> Savage but I'll let it go) but Mike Malloy? Mike MALLOY!? He
> shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
But you should be a talk radio analyst or consultant because I remember your 2,000+ word excellent and very well written essay on listening to Mike Malloy in response to Tom Betz (that's another Tom, not me). I have filed it away in my Radio-Info file!
> I won't quarrel with 3 of your nominees (I'm tempted with
> Savage but I'll let it go) but Mike Malloy? Mike MALLOY!? He
> shouldn't be allowed to talk at all let alone on radio.
But you should be a talk radio analyst or consultant because I remember your 2,000+ word excellent and very well written essay on listening to Mike Malloy in response to Tom Betz (that's another Tom, not me). I have filed it away in my Radio-Info file!
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Tom_
Guest
Re: Is this a trend?
> What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his
> inability to string words into coherent sentences? Oh, yeah,
> and his anger is such a great complement to the other two
> attributes.
You might listen over the internet for local progressive hosts who do not express that much anger yet are still very passionate such as John Rothmann/KGO, Carl Jeffers/KIRO, and Jay Diamond/WRKO, Atty. Mark Levine (syndicated), and many others...These four hosts all stream on the net...
> What is there to like about him? Is it his low energy or his
> inability to string words into coherent sentences? Oh, yeah,
> and his anger is such a great complement to the other two
> attributes.
You might listen over the internet for local progressive hosts who do not express that much anger yet are still very passionate such as John Rothmann/KGO, Carl Jeffers/KIRO, and Jay Diamond/WRKO, Atty. Mark Levine (syndicated), and many others...These four hosts all stream on the net...
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autopaint-1
Guest
Re: Lib Talk
> Malloy's problem is that he is bitter on the air. I think
> that may be the greatest problem for Left of Center talk at
> the moment.
>
> Malloy is talented for sure. He is bitter, angry. That
> does not sell.
>
I'm not a fan of Malloy and I disagree with many of his political views as well. However, if he's bitter and angry on the air what does that make Savage?
> Malloy's problem is that he is bitter on the air. I think
> that may be the greatest problem for Left of Center talk at
> the moment.
>
> Malloy is talented for sure. He is bitter, angry. That
> does not sell.
>
I'm not a fan of Malloy and I disagree with many of his political views as well. However, if he's bitter and angry on the air what does that make Savage?
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doc9464
Guest
Re: Lib Talk
> I'm not a fan of Malloy and I disagree with many of his
> political views as well. However, if he's bitter and angry
> on the air what does that make Savage?
>
If Malloy is bitter and angry, then Savage is enraged and close-to-snapping radio.
I peeked in on him a couple of weeks ago and man....hes a lot worse than Malloy could ever be...
> I'm not a fan of Malloy and I disagree with many of his
> political views as well. However, if he's bitter and angry
> on the air what does that make Savage?
>
If Malloy is bitter and angry, then Savage is enraged and close-to-snapping radio.
I peeked in on him a couple of weeks ago and man....hes a lot worse than Malloy could ever be...
D
desechado
Guest
Re: Lib Talk
> I'm not a fan of Malloy and I disagree with many of his
> political views as well. However, if he's bitter and angry
> on the air what does that make Savage?
>
Uh.....insane??<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
> I'm not a fan of Malloy and I disagree with many of his
> political views as well. However, if he's bitter and angry
> on the air what does that make Savage?
>
Uh.....insane??<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
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