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The defunct WDAS-AM: Your Thoughts

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I wanted to get your general thoughts on the programming, talent, etc that appeared on the defunct WDAS-AM? The station was on the air from 1934 until May 23rd 2007. Its a shame that another long time Philadelphia radio station goes off the air.
 
Julius May said:
I wanted to get your general thoughts on the programming, talent, etc that appeared on the defunct WDAS-AM? The station was on the air from 1934 until May 23rd 2007. Its a shame that another long time Philadelphia radio station goes off the air.

I think the programming and talent from 1934 to 1941 was very good. However, from 1941 to the end of World War II the programming and talent was not nearly as good as it was the previous decade.

I don't remember who the talents were from 1945 to 1951. Could you please refresh my memory?

From 1951 to 1964, the programming and talents were decent but I think the station would've sounded a lot better if it simulcasted popular TV programs such as Father Knows Best and Bonanza. My general thoughts about the station's talent and programming from 1964 to 1972 is that more people would have listened if the station played the bands that were popular during the British Invasion, such as the Dave Clark Five, the Searchers and Herman's Hermits. Oops! I almost forgot Freddie and the Dreamers.

From 1972 to 1986 I think that the format was all right and the personalities did the best they could, but I think the equipment, such as the cart machines, the reel-to-reel tape recorders, and the grease pencils were all very poor and should have been replaced. From 1986 until May 23rd 2007 the station should have featured more local sports broadcasts and the station should have hired famous Philadelphia personalities like Jerry Blavat and Mary Mason to do the play-by-play for Phillies baseball, Philadelphia Stars USFL football and the Kentucky Derby.

I agree that it is a shame when another long-time Philadelphia radio station goes off the air, so I think everybody who posts to this board should call radio station owners and people at the Philadelphia Inquirer to tell them that WDAS-AM, WFLN and WRCP should all return to the air...immediately.
 
WDAS-AM was one of the stations I listened to back in the late 60's, along with WABC, WFIL and WIBG. Jimmy Bishop, who did afternoon drive, was right up there with any afternoon jock. Their ratings were up there too, with Harvey Holiday.

But alas, WDAS-AM went the way of WFIL and WIBG, when listeners went to FM. Philadelphia's soul station had to find a new niche. Perhaps if they had gone talk in an effort to keep their older demos, the station could have survived in a competition with WHAT. But they took the Gospel route instead, competing with the Norristown daytimer (which I think did a good job). But, like any other AM music format, once an FMer picks it up, the days of the AM format are over. But the WDAS-AM of old is very much alive and well on WDAS-FM.
 
WDAS AM/1480 was a legendary station Rhythm and Blues heritage station located in beautiful Fairmount part. I had the privilege of growing up there are a kid, with my step brothers and sisters, as my stepfather was General Manager and part owner. The term legendary does not even capture what WDAS AM was to Philadelphia or the role it played as setting the standard of black radio, both locally and nationally. WDAS’s influence was unequalled, where Philadelphia and the country heard the black hits and the sound of Philadelphia first. It was unique and magical, with an extraordinary on air presentation that began at the dawn of Rock and Roll in 1951, when Rock and Roll meant Rhythm and Blues. WDAS was an influence that was heard and woven into the fabric of our society, as well as the broadcast industry, nation wide.
The studios in Fairmont Park were one of the most exciting full service, on air engineer broadcast assisted, RCA blue print facilities that I have ever seen. And I have seen them all, including as you know WIBG, where I also grew up as a kid. The Disc Jockeys were true radio wizards, and the home of legends like Jocko Henderson, Georgie Woods, Kae Williams, Jimmy Bishop, Larry daily, Louis Williams, Joe Tamburro, and many more.
Even Hy was on WDAS AM in 1969 from 1-4pm, as he launched WDAS FM into contemporary underground radio. (see http://hylitradio.com/index.php?page=6 for a history timeline)
But no matter how big the musical high points, WDAS News was there. The WDAS newsmen and women were a group of brilliant journalists, where many prominent broadcast journalists, including Ed Bradley, Bob Perkins, and my step sister Wynn Alexander, professed an award winning level of reporting, at a time when radio was where people turned to hear what was happening now, fast and factual.
The WDAS News department had achieved more awards year after year, for news journalism, than I can name. By 1966, WDAS News had won 17 major awards and dozens of Associated Press Awards for news and editorial in addition to 13 Valley Forge Freedom Awards, 3 Valley Forge Freedom Medals, the Armstrong Award for Journalism, and countless proclamations of recognition. WDAS News was a tireless warrior against racism and oppression, and every known social ill. The contributions to black progress and racial harmony were recognized far and wide as well as congressionally. It is worth noting in a long roster of accomplishments, that in 1962 WDAS News, was the only station to 'sweep' the Associated Press Awards and one of only two stations in the country to win a Valley Forge Freedom's Foundation Medal for editorial excellence that year. (see http://wdashistory.org/ for a history timeline)
There is no Philadelphia area radio station before or since that has matched what a single locally owned and operated broadcast voice has meant to a city or an industry. My stepfather sold WDAS AM/FM in 1979, for what was the highest dollar value ever paid for a Philadelphia radio station up until that time, culminating a combined two decades of unparalleled broadcast excellence.
 
HarrytheK1 said:
Julius May said:
I wanted to get your general thoughts on the programming, talent, etc that appeared on the defunct WDAS-AM? The station was on the air from 1934 until May 23rd 2007. Its a shame that another long time Philadelphia radio station goes off the air.

I think the programming and talent from 1934 to 1941 was very good. However, from 1941 to the end of World War II the programming and talent was not nearly as good as it was the previous decade.

I don't remember who the talents were from 1945 to 1951. Could you please refresh my memory?

From 1951 to 1964, the programming and talents were decent but I think the station would've sounded a lot better if it simulcasted popular TV programs such as Father Knows Best and Bonanza. My general thoughts about the station's talent and programming from 1964 to 1972 is that more people would have listened if the station played the bands that were popular during the British Invasion, such as the Dave Clark Five, the Searchers and Herman's Hermits. Oops! I almost forgot Freddie and the Dreamers.

From 1972 to 1986 I think that the format was all right and the personalities did the best they could, but I think the equipment, such as the cart machines, the reel-to-reel tape recorders, and the grease pencils were all very poor and should have been replaced. From 1986 until May 23rd 2007 the station should have featured more local sports broadcasts and the station should have hired famous Philadelphia personalities like Jerry Blavat and Mary Mason to do the play-by-play for Phillies baseball, Philadelphia Stars USFL football and the Kentucky Derby.

I agree that it is a shame when another long-time Philadelphia radio station goes off the air, so I think everybody who posts to this board should call radio station owners and people at the Philadelphia Inquirer to tell them that WDAS-AM, WFLN and WRCP should all return to the air...immediately.

I felt like I took a brief trip to the Twilight Zone after reading this post. That's my thoughts.
 
Why don't you look it up, Harry?

I'll give you a hint. You couldn't afford it. Unity Broadcasting found out they couldn't afford it either. In Nov. 1979, a "Change Is Gonna Come" and WDAS-FM held off an on charging WUSL as much as it could ... but couldn't.

WDAS was and will always remain Priceless in Philadelphia. Lot's of great talent from Hy to Georgie, Bob, Ed Bradley, Joe "Butterball" Tamburro -- Joe Pyne, too and many others walked through Max Leon's doors and brought "The Sound of Philadelphia" home in a big, big way. That's what "Priceless" will do for you.

Enjoy. And thanks, Sam. And thanks to Wynne, as well.

http://www.wdashistory.org/3.html
 
In the 60's, I once picked up WDAS at my house in Baltimore during the late afternoon. I seem to remember the jock's name was something like Lord Fontleroy.
 
WUSL was MOR as US1 in 1979. Then they flipped to country in 1980. In 1982 after the urban cowboy phase didn’t work, they flipped to KISS 99 playing urban hip-hop, or what was then called rap. They were promptly sued for a trademark infringement violation by then RKO’s KISS 98.7 WRKS (the old WOR FM, & WXLO). Subsequently, WUSL was forced to change their name, which they did, to POWER, which they stole from me at WKXW/FM, as we were known then, as the Power Factor, Kickx 101 ½. They also stole one of my on air talents, BJ ‘Da Bear’, who split WKXW for mornings at Power 99. He lasted a few years, the later of which he became famous for showing up 45 minutes late for the morning air shift. But boy was he talented. He subsequently left for mornings at WDAS FM in the mid 80’s.
WDAS FM was #1 Arbitron rated at the time of the sale, and was #1 through most of the 70’s. KYW was #2 . Meanwhile Joe Tamburro (butterball) who began his career spinning records for Hy at record hops in the late 50's and who met my stepfather through the association with Hy, has been programming WDAS FM from even before the day's of the emergence of Power 99, and before the sale. He is still there as program director to this day.
 
RoddyFreeman said:
In the 60's, I once picked up WDAS at my house in Baltimore during the late afternoon. I seem to remember the jock's name was something like Lord Fontleroy.

Lord Fontlery’s real name was John Bandy, who was an incredible talent. He subsequently segued in to management at WDAS as one of the first black men to hold an executive position with a broadcast company at that time. He subsequently married one of the PEW daughters. As you may or may not know, the PEW family owns Sun Petroleum (Sunoco gasoline). Sunoco was always a major sponsor at WDAS from the early day’s, and had a significant relationship with WDAS charities foundation, supplying petroleum for relief during the winter months. It was not uncommon for WDAS to dispatch petroleum trucks in the winter to urban centers of Philadelphia with needed fuel for homeowners. When WDAS was sold, the first thing the new corporate owners did was abolish WDAS charities.
 
FTR it was not Kiss in the apple but the soon to be born WKSZ Kiss 100 in Media that stopped Kiss 99, they were going to launch a lawsuit so Holberg settled and used Power that was thought up by Wynn. Kiss 99 started with just a white oriented rhythmic format songs from the Clash-Casbar, Men at Work-Down Under, Rapture-Blondie and many other white rhythmic tunes were played...I still have a Red Kiss 99 bumper sticker....long unheard versions of white punk cuts were also played...
 
StemCell said:
FTR it was not Kiss in the apple but the soon to be born WKSZ Kiss 100 in Media that stopped Kiss 99, they were going to launch a lawsuit so Holberg settled and used Power that was thought up by Wynn.

I think in fact you may be right. It may have been WKSZ. However, I do recall an identity conflict with NY. Perhaps, it was WKSZ/KISS 100 that was challenged by WRKS at a subsequent point.

Who Is Wynn? Wynn who?
 
And thanks to Wynne, as well. (Wynne Anderson, see below.)

http://www.wdashistory.org/3.html

Bob Klein's (GM) daughter and also "historian" of WDAS Radio, also part of the WDAS News Dept. Also, Max Leon's granddaughter.
 
Sam Lit said:
StemCell said:
FTR it was not Kiss in the apple but the soon to be born WKSZ Kiss 100 in Media that stopped Kiss 99, they were going to launch a lawsuit so Holberg settled and used Power that was thought up by Wynn.

I think in fact you may be right. It may have been WKSZ. However, I do recall an identity conflict with NY. Perhaps, it was WKSZ/KISS 100 that was challenged by WRKS at a subsequent point.

Who Is Wynn? Wynn who?

Sorry typo I meant Genius Jeff Wyatt....
 
Kiss 99 could best be considered the forerunner of the late 80's "Rhythmic CHR" format (a lot of popular R&B cuts mixed in with more rhythmic-sounding and 12" versions of pop chart toppers). It was on Kiss/Power where I first heard the 12" versions of Bowie's "Let's Dance" and The Fixx's "One Thing Leads To Another". They were the first station to break the dance classic Imagination's "Just An Illusion".
 
oaktree said:
And thanks to Wynne, as well. (Wynne Anderson, see below.)

http://www.wdashistory.org/3.html

Bob Klein's (GM) daughter and also "historian" of WDAS Radio, also part of the WDAS News Dept. Also, Max Leon's granddaughter.

I guess, as you may have surmised that Wynne Alexander (Wynne Klein) is my step sister, Bob Klein’s oldest, and as you noted, Max Leons granddaughter. Bob Klein, Max's son-in-law, General Manager, and part owner of WDAS, married my mother after her and Hy divorced. Even before as Hy’s best friend, (that’s another story for another time), Bob and his kids were part of a close family inner circle that dated way back before I was born. Bob was originally married to Max Leon’s daughter. Max was a Jewish immigrant and at the age of 16 came to the US from Poland (Swierze) with a violin, four dimes, and basically a suitcase full of hope. Max ultimately became the general manager of a candy factory at which he began work as a candy breaker. He then became the owner of that same company, the Whole-Sum Products in 1934. They made different types of sweets while inventing marshmallow ice cream for the Breyers Ice Cream Company headquartered in the Grays Ferry section of Philadelphia. He kept the candy factory all during the WDAS days. In fact, the candy company was a major sponsor on WDAS radio. There was many a year in which I heard the ‘Dainty Mints’ commercials on the air, and in the production studio. Dainty Mints was one of the staple nickel sugar product lines manufactured by Whole-Sum Products. Max made a bundle, one nickel at a time, literally. He made millions and in 1943, he founded, financed and conducted "the Philadelphia Pops Orchestra" which was the the prelude to what is now the Philadelphia orchestra.

Saturday afternoons saw Max and his members of the Philadelphia Pops Orchestra practicing on the 4th floor of his candy factory and at the Lorraine Hotel on Broad Street. Max "broadcast" the rehearsal throughout the plant through a loudspeaker system in the production area. During the Second World War, the orchestra played concerts at Army and Navy hospitals, service centers, camps, stations and raised over $6,000,000 in war bond sales. Leon organized it, led it, paid all the bills, and was their conductor. It was his baby. Throughout the years, he continued to conduct the eighty piece Philly Pops with performances at the Academy of Music.

For twenty-nine years, Max M. Leon owned the majority interest in WDAS which he purchased for a half million dollars on October 19, 1950 from William Goldman (a theater chain owner.). WDAS was originally licensed to Ocean City, NJ, Subsequent ownership was retained by retailers Dannenbaum & Steppacher, Thus the call letters "W-D-A-S. Dannenbaum & Steppacher moved the station to Philly where it has remained ever since. Bob Klein, and Leon applied for and was granted a construction permit for an FM station and in 1959, 105.3/WDAS-FM was licensed and came on the air. (105.3 was originally WHAT/FM. 105.3 was abandoned when WHAT-FM moved to 96.5 Mhz. Up until Hy launched Hyski’s underground on WDAS-FM in late 1968, WDAS-FM was Max’s personal playground for the fine arts in Philadelphia. (Coincidentally, Hy was heard on 105.3 when his WHAT/AM radio show was simulcast on WHAT-FM/105.3, in 1954).


Factoid: 1972 WDAS' Bob Klein files a class action suit against the Arbitron rating service on behalf of all black radio stations and proves that black radio listenership was undercounted. Arbitron settles after four days of testimony and amends its methologies and policies.
Factoid: 1968: Bob Klein hires Hy Lit as V.P. and General Manager of WDAS-FM. Hyski’s underground is launched on WDAS FM. Hy also does 1-4 afternoons on WDAS-AM.
Factoid: 1968 The campaign waged by WDAS News against Girard College's "white only" policy is victorious, when US Supreme Court orders that black students be allowed to attend the school.
Factoid: 1967 WDAS personality and Gospel Queen Louise Williams introduce a young gospel singer, Aretha Franklin to Jerry Wexler of Atlantic Records... and the rest is music history.
Factoid: 1962 Georgie Woods breaks the Beatles', "Please, Please Me," originally on the African-American owned, Chicago-based Vee-Jay Records label.
Factoid: 1960 Louise Williams hired by Bob Klein to come to WDAS-AM to do gospel. WDAS Charities established to address the needs of the community. WDAS Charities initiates "WDAS Freedom Shows," both Rock n' Roll and gospel concerts that raise money to benefit those in need in the Philadelphia community. John "Lord Fauntleroy" Bandy appointed Assistant General Manager at WDAS, one of the first African-Americans to hold that position in radio nationwide. WDAS commissions further market research and listenership study with E. John Bucci, President Kennedy's chief statistician. WDAS initiates one of the first voter registration drives. WDAS credited with increasing African-American voter registration by mayor of Philadelphia.
Factoid: 1956 Georgie Woods joins "Jocko" Henderson at WDAS-AM.
Factoid: 1953 "Jocko" Henderson hired at WDAS-AM in Philadelphia on October 5th. Georgie Woods hired as an air personality at WHAT-AM after a brief stint at WWRL-AM in New York.
 
Starbucks said:
I felt like I took a brief trip to the Twilight Zone after reading this post. That's my thoughts.

I'm glad you got it.

I thought Julius' original post was somewhat strange in that he was asking for comments about programming and personalities for a period of time that lasted almost three-quarters of a century. I actually thought his post was kind of strange and I didn't (and still don't) understand what he was trying to find out.

So, I gave a response that I thought was at least as odd as his original post.

Apparently, I was successful :) Thanx
 
I thought Julius' original post was somewhat strange in that he was asking for comments about programming and personalities for a period of time that lasted almost three-quarters of a century.

I don't think it's very strange at all. This is 2008, meaning that if you were born in 1924, you'd only be 84 years old today, and 10 years old when WDAS signed on. Many of my relatives have lived well into their 90's, and if I make it to 84, I wouldn't at all be surprised if I remember the radio stations of my youth as well as I do today.

Hell, I remember hearing my grandparents talk about their first "radio." Apparently it was a crystal set that made more noise than it did actually produce audible music and talk, and grandmom told grandpop, "if I had known that thing was going to be so noisy I never would have let you buy it."

They remembered FDR's "fireside chats" very well and could even talk about some of the highlights from those chats until the day they died.

So, it's not that far-fetched that there is someone out there who may be able to describe the early days of WDAS. We will have to wait and see.
 
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