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The Devastating Physical Effects of Working AM Drive

The unique sleep-cycle needs of morning hosts seldom cross the minds of sales-based GMs, or even their families.

As brutal as the hours can be, it's worse when you're on the air from 5:30 to 10am, then find you've been scheduled for a full plate of production, an 11am aircheck session, a 1pm staff meeting, a 3pm client visit for sales, and a 7pm appearance at a civic event.

Or, you get the rare chance to leave the station after 7 hours, only to be awakened at 1:30pm by the neighbor's lawn care crew, or at 3:30pm by the kids getting home from school.

After all that, they get lectured by consultants on how they need to bring more from their real lives to their radio shows. The lecture, of course, is scheduled for 4pm.

You know why successful long-term morning hosts sometimes come across as pricks? I believe it's because, in part, they get accustomed to constantly defending their needs against all the thoughtless demands of others. I've worked mornings with some people with prima donna reputations earned because they were tough on thoughtless "intruders," but highly appreciative of contributors who "got it."

I've always been a sort of utility infielder, and would go out of my way to reach out across departmental lines to help the overall effort. This is the kiss of death for physical well-being if you work mornings. You have to develop that crust on the outside to survive.

Physically, I found I could adapt well to overnights or mornings, but only when my work schedule home environment allowed me to get 8 consecutive hours of sleep. That was rare.

The one shift that kicked my butt, for some reason, was my first in a rated market - working 10pm to 6am at the old WEZO in Rochester. I did most of the dubbing/toning of carts for the automation, then shifted gears at 4am and wrote news for Jerry warner, and sometimes for WNYR across the hall. After a few months, I went gray around the temples...at age 22! The gray went away when I changed to a 4am-1pm shift, and is just now coming back at age 54. It's scary to think what I must have been doing to myself.
 
Yes, this thread is definitely interesting. It spurred me to think of the many morning drive personalities I've seen and/or worked with in Buffalo and what made them tick.

While working at QFM97, Jim Santella, the godfather of AOR did morning drive with Charley Seitz (both are longtime friends) while down the hall at WGR 55, the legendary Stan Roberts and later, George Hamberger did morning drive at WGR. I don't know if it was Bruce Czarnecki's high octane coffee, but Stan was always energized. At QFM and 97 Rock, Santella, Bearman, Norton, Laurie Githens, Harvey Kojan and JC Corcoran did morning drive. Out of all those names, Norton's still standing, supported by Rob Lederman and Chris Kline. Corcoran has been a morning drive mainstay at various FM stations in St. Louis.

Check these WNYS-WHTT morning guys: Bill Todd, JR Randall, Peter Jonassen, Sandy Beach, Bill Weston and Dan Neaverth, with fill-in stints by Joey Reynolds and Jay Thomas. Now, longtime WBEN morning legend Bill Lacy and Gail Ann Huber have made their mark. Consider that run... Beach, Neaverth, Lacy... and Thomas and Reynolds ain't chopped liver.

At WGR News Radio 55, it was Tom Bauerle anchored morning drive and Ray Marks with Melanie Pritchard, until the station flipped to sports.

So many of these guys and ladies were/are bigger than life, each uniquely different in the way they approach their craft. All pros. Observing them do their acts has, in some ways, been like watching a live play unfold before your eyes and ears. Quite a cast of characters.
 
JimPastrick said:
So many of these guys and ladies were/are bigger than life, each uniquely different in the way they approach their craft. All pros. Observing them do their acts has, in some ways, been like watching a live play unfold before your eyes and ears. Quite a cast of characters.

Is it any wonder I always wanted to work in Buffalo radio? I would have settled for sweeping the floor around some of these folks! Buffalo not the biggest market but lots of talent.
 
I don't know I did mornings for 3 years at WJJL. It didn't affect me at all. fjiodasrjeojfjcioafjwaeiojiojhfwqeiojriqwejfio. Really, it didn't!
 
bub said:
Prize Pigeons? :eek: Is that the PC version of Prize Pigs? ;D

I don't know if it's PC, but I love the imagery... just 'drop in' for a prize, and, well, er... you know the rest.

I'm still laughing, Mr. 9.
 
Nick Seneca said:
I could post this elsewhere, but I chose this board because this is where my homeboys are.

I have never been able to succeed long term as a morning man partly because I have never been able to adjust to the hours. Whenever I've been awarded a morning show, I start out full of enthusiasm, but a few weeks into it, I find that I can think of nothing but getting to sleep - even when I'm on the air.

I've had days on the air where, when the tunes were playin', I just stared glassy-eyed at the board, and honestly, I'm embarassed to say, just went through the motions when the mic was open. Off the air, as well, I was in a perpetual state of fatigue, nap or no nap, no matter what time I'd gone to bed the night before.

Last time I started a morning show, I even went to a hypnotherapist before the job began to help get me in the the habit of going to bed early. It worked for a short while, but several weeks into it, I was wide awake at midnight, maybe drifitng off at 2 or 3 AM, and finally I was a zombie again.

I remember the days of morning shows beginning at 6AM, which gave me an outside shot at feeling OK. But then, of course they crept back to 5:30 - gotta get that jump on the competition - and now most start at 5 freakin' o'clock! I did that for three long months once and it was a disaster.

I just don't know how morning guys do it.

Even though AM Drive is where the action and big money is, I don't think I ever wanna do it again.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

Nick Seneca

Nick,

The great secret that morning guys won't admit to is that there are lots of listeners no matter what the daypart. It's just the needs that change....

AM Drive: Needs host to do most of the heavy lifting because they've got to get their (and their spouse/kids) day going...

Midday: Might have some time during a break but mainly needs you to keep em company and feeling less disconnected from the world than just performing their job makes 'em feel.

PM Drive: More likely to be in a participatory mood by the time the workday ends and need to get caught up so they'll have stuff to talk about with their friends/family.

Evenings/Overnights: Listener ship definitely drops off as TV time starts, but these listeners tend to be the most loyal and participatory their are. They feel like they're working while everyone else is playing/sleeping, so they need a friend.

So, find the group that you want to perform for and the timeslot that gives you the best opportunity to bring your "a" game every day.
 
Jim,

I COMPLETELY FORGOT about Bruce's high octane coffee ... (of course John Otto's 'bottom of the pot' wasn't much better ... actually, they did sort of taste a bit the same ... I wonder?)

And John,

I think 'JJL did that, that, that, that to,to,to,to pepeoepelepepepepepepele... (and I only did one year)

(Could it have been the water in the Falls?)

Kal
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John Jarrett said:
I don't know I did mornings for 3 years at WJJL. It didn't affect me at all. fjiodasrjeojfjcioafjwaeiojiojhfwqeiojriqwejfio. Really, it didn't!
 
Slightly off topic, but Keith remember Fred Klestine’s coffee at WBUF? Fred would always add a little extra coffee to any batch that he made. Maybe a half a bag extra.

He would then proceed to drink about 7-8 large cups during his three hour shift from 9-Noon. I figure he drank the equivalent of about 13-16 cups of high-test a day.

His blood pressure was off the charts by his own admission, yet he was the most mellow fellow in the world on and off the air.
 
Larry,

Yes, I do! I don't know how many other people he'd let make it but I was one of the preferred baristas, who Freddie would allow to prepare his coffee if the pot ran short! Of course, that was after he taught me how to do it correctly! LOL

I do miss Fred!

How are you doing?

Kal
 
Keith, we're doing fine! I sent you an email. Fred was quite the character, but then we had many during our time together at 'BUF. What stories!
 
yugoidar said:
Fred was quite the character, but then we had many during our time together at 'BUF. What stories!

Of course, not to name names but 'The Tiny Tot of the Kilowatt' comes to mind! LOL

Kal
 
Al,

Well, yes. I don't like to 'name names' but I thought that description would do nicely... and he is a 'laugh out loud' kinda guy and not at all like Adrian Monk.

To get back on topic though, as you say ...

alw said:
I have had the pleasure of being morning man 3 (count 'em, 3) times.

Where? and when? It doesn't seem to have done any permanent damage?!
I don't remember anything but 'Jazz in the Nighttime' but then there is so much I no longer recall!

Kal
 
Kal said:
alw said:
I have had the pleasure of being morning man 3 (count 'em, 3) times.

Where? and when? It doesn't seem to have done any permanent damage?!
I don't remember anything but 'Jazz in the Nighttime' but then there is so much I no longer recall!

Kal


Boss Jock-WUSJ, WNIA, WYSL-FM,
& News Dept.-KB, WPGC, WKBK (Keene, N.H.)

All in the mid-60s thru early 70s
 
Slightly off topic, but Keith remember Fred Klestine’s coffee at WBUF? Fred would always add a little extra coffee to any batch that he made. Maybe a half a bag extra. He would then proceed to drink about 7-8 large cups during his three hour shift from 9-Noon. I figure he drank the equivalent of about 13-16 cups of high-test a day. His blood pressure was off the charts by his own admission, yet he was the most mellow fellow in the world on and off the air.

Wait just one minute. STOP!

"He would then proceed to drink about 7-8 large cups during his three hour shift from 9-Noon."

Three hour shift?!! THREE?! T H R E E ?! What planet was that on?!

"I figure he drank the equivalent of about 13-16 cups of high-test a day."

Screw the high BP, Fred must have had the cleanest kidneys and colon in America! Presume the men's room was close by.

-9-
 
When I was at BUF..Freddy would come in at 7 or 8pm, make a pot of coffee, drink 1-2 cups, then leave. He did the best impression of Art Wande doing sprots talk that I ever heard!
 
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