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"The Digital Forest Looks Pretty Green"

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PocketRadio

"The Digital Forest Looks Pretty Green"

"HD Radio emerges as a custom-fit solution for bringing the radio industry into the digital age. This approach truly is elegant... " :D

With adjacent-channel interference, 1/2 the coverage of analog, false claims of "CD quality", a chance to squeeze smaller competitors out of the marketplace, and the same tired programming as redundant, automated playlists.

"You’d wish for a rollout that allowed you to create profitable new information..."

I bet you had - consumers have been totally apathetic, which is highly-unlikely to change:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...odcast&ctab=0&geo=US&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

"I know this sounds like a sell job...."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"I am perfectly aware that some readers wish the question of the digital transition would just go away. They cite concerns about cost, interference or the perception that they’re being dragged into it by bigger corporate entities."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"Among IBOC critics, the most paranoid sometimes say that big corporations, plotting with the commission and the NRSC, are forcing our industry into change. Ignore them."

Yea, don't click on our links ! :D

"Meanwhile, tuners are proliferating today. Multicast channels are being added; and it’s my prediction that soon one will “break out” into national consciousness with an unexpected format or personality, one that will help create the consumer 'buzz' HD Radio craves."

Lots-of-luck, shill ! :D

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.6996.html
 
PocketRadio said:
"The Digital Forest Looks Pretty Green"

"HD Radio emerges as a custom-fit solution for bringing the radio industry into the digital age. This approach truly is elegant... " :D

With adjacent-channel interference, 1/2 the coverage of analog, false claims of "CD quality", a chance to squeeze smaller competitors out of the marketplace, and the same tired programming as redundant, automated playlists.

"You’d wish for a rollout that allowed you to create profitable new information..."

I bet you had - consumers have been totally apathetic, which is highly-unlikely to change:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...odcast&ctab=0&geo=US&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

"I know this sounds like a sell job...."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"I am perfectly aware that some readers wish the question of the digital transition would just go away. They cite concerns about cost, interference or the perception that they’re being dragged into it by bigger corporate entities."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"Among IBOC critics, the most paranoid sometimes say that big corporations, plotting with the commission and the NRSC, are forcing our industry into change. Ignore them."

Yea, don't click on our links ! :D

"Meanwhile, tuners are proliferating today. Multicast channels are being added; and it’s my prediction that soon one will “break out” into national consciousness with an unexpected format or personality, one that will help create the consumer 'buzz' HD Radio craves."

Lots-of-luck, shill ! :D

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.6996.html
Click to expand...

This entire article is about why and how much broadcasters like HD radio. Not one mention or thought was given to the listening public, and demonstrates clearly the unbounded greed and arrogance of the HD cartel perpetrators, and their promoters.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
PocketRadio said:
"The Digital Forest Looks Pretty Green"

"HD Radio emerges as a custom-fit solution for bringing the radio industry into the digital age. This approach truly is elegant... " :D

With adjacent-channel interference, 1/2 the coverage of analog, false claims of "CD quality", a chance to squeeze smaller competitors out of the marketplace, and the same tired programming as redundant, automated playlists.

"You’d wish for a rollout that allowed you to create profitable new information..."

I bet you had - consumers have been totally apathetic, which is highly-unlikely to change:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...odcast&ctab=0&geo=US&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

"I know this sounds like a sell job...."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"I am perfectly aware that some readers wish the question of the digital transition would just go away. They cite concerns about cost, interference or the perception that they’re being dragged into it by bigger corporate entities."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"Among IBOC critics, the most paranoid sometimes say that big corporations, plotting with the commission and the NRSC, are forcing our industry into change. Ignore them."

Yea, don't click on our links ! :D

"Meanwhile, tuners are proliferating today. Multicast channels are being added; and it’s my prediction that soon one will “break out” into national consciousness with an unexpected format or personality, one that will help create the consumer 'buzz' HD Radio craves."

Lots-of-luck, shill ! :D

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.6996.html
Click to expand...

This entire article is about why and how much broadcasters like HD radio. Not one mention or thought was given to the listening public, and demonstrates clearly the unbounded greed and arrogance of the HD cartel perpetrators, and their promoters.
Click to expand...


This has never been answered. Who is forcing anyone to convert to digital? If no one really cares and IBOC presents no challenge to your station, why not just wait it out? According to some here no one wants IBOC. Just go about your business and if anyone interferes with your signal report them to the FCC. Unless you don't really believe what you are typing here... Hmmmmm
 
As I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted:

This entire article is about why and how much broadcasters like HD radio. Not one mention or thought was given to the listening public, and demonstrates clearly the unbounded greed and arrogance of the HD cartel perpetrators, and their promoters.

Among IBOC critics, the most paranoid sometimes say that big corporations, plotting with the commission and the NRSC, are forcing our industry into change. Ignore them. I know too many of the good people who have struggled with these decisions — including most of our industry’s leading engineers — to fall into such an easy delusion.
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There is nothing paranoid or delusional about powerful, dominant, huge broadcast conglomerates, the HD cartel and the public regaining control over their airwaves. Republican Teddy Roosevelt would call it "trust busting".
If there is something strange in your neighborhood, who you gonna call, "TRUST BUSTERS"!

Whenever you see or hear the long laundry list of self serving false claims from HD peddlers about HD radio being the wave of the future "IGNORE THEM"! Remember these waves of media conglomeration are dangerous will drown you.

New title:
HD radio cartel and supporters, can't see the forest for the trees".

Always trust the Emperor, he knows exactly what's best for you. Right?
 
"Greed" (by investing millions of dollars on methods to serve listeners better, with no guarantee of return...and FORBIDDEN for the moment from monetizing that investment). "Arrogance"? Say what? The AM system may not shake out as the greatest idea known to man, although I still believe that it's as good as was possible given the constraints imposed by the FCC (the things you guys bitch about...adjacent channel interference, etc...were pretty much mandated by the FCC's DEMAND that a solution be "in band, on channel"...in a band where the channels are only 10khz apart!) "Arrogance" would be to say it's "my way or the highway". Ibiquity isn't forcing anyone to convert. The FCC may, but Ibiquity won't, and can't.

"Arrogance' indeed...the unmitigated gall. These guys actually had the nerve to take the FCC's requirements, and turn them into a working system for AM and FM, at a cost of many millions, with no guarantee of recovering ANY of it. How dare they!
 
I keep reading that no one is being forced to convert. I disagree. On the AM every listener to an HD station is converted
to the self-interference and crippled intelligibility, in addition to having 4 other AM choices crippled by noise.

Exactly how do I "opt out" of the above, and "opt in" to restored audio quality?

If the FCC calls the creation of something that is exactly the opposite of what they were incepted for, what does that suggest?
Either they need to be abolished, or a new FRC established?
Ignorance is one possible explanation, corruption is another.
 
To "force" someone is to remove all other choices. My radio has an FM dial. As others point out there's webcasting, podcasting, shortwave, satellite, etc. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED TO ADOPT ANYTHING, as long as there are other choices!
 
Mike Walker said:
To "force" someone is to remove all other choices. My radio has an FM dial. As others point out there's webcasting, podcasting, shortwave, satellite, etc. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED TO ADOPT ANYTHING, as long as there are other choices!
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As usual, Tom is correct - as more stations convert to HD (luckily, almost all are FMs, but many Alliance 50kw AMs have already), consumers have no choice but to accept IBUZZ/IBLOCK, or turn of their radios. My guess, is that most consumers have no clue about what is going on and will just abandon their radios - I plan on switching back to SWL.
 
PocketRadio said:
Mike Walker said:
To "force" someone is to remove all other choices. My radio has an FM dial. As others point out there's webcasting, podcasting, shortwave, satellite, etc. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED TO ADOPT ANYTHING, as long as there are other choices!
Click to expand...

As usual, Tom is correct - as more stations convert to HD (luckily, almost all are FMs, but many Alliance 50kw AMs have already), consumers have no choice but to accept IBUZZ/IBLOCK, or turn of their radios. My guess, is that most consumers have no clue about what is going on and will just abandon their radios - I plan on switching back to SWL.
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Good luck, we'll miss you/ ::)
 
PocketRadio said:
"The Digital Forest Looks Pretty Green"

"HD Radio emerges as a custom-fit solution for bringing the radio industry into the digital age. This approach truly is elegant... " :D

With adjacent-channel interference, 1/2 the coverage of analog, false claims of "CD quality", a chance to squeeze smaller competitors out of the marketplace, and the same tired programming as redundant, automated playlists.

"You’d wish for a rollout that allowed you to create profitable new information..."

I bet you had - consumers have been totally apathetic, which is highly-unlikely to change:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...odcast&ctab=0&geo=US&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

"I know this sounds like a sell job...."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"I am perfectly aware that some readers wish the question of the digital transition would just go away. They cite concerns about cost, interference or the perception that they’re being dragged into it by bigger corporate entities."

Boy, you've gotten that right ! :D

"Among IBOC critics, the most paranoid sometimes say that big corporations, plotting with the commission and the NRSC, are forcing our industry into change. Ignore them."

Yea, don't click on our links ! :D

"Meanwhile, tuners are proliferating today. Multicast channels are being added; and it’s my prediction that soon one will “break out” into national consciousness with an unexpected format or personality, one that will help create the consumer 'buzz' HD Radio craves."

Lots-of-luck, shill ! :D

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.6996.html
Click to expand...

I sent an edited version of this to the author, Paul Mclean, and this was his response:

"Thanks *****. I did write the truth, which is to report Paul McLane thinks about the matter. But I'm also happy to publish what you think. I'm proud that RW has published more opinions on all sides of this debate, and certainly more anti-IBOC opinion, than any other radio publication. I've forwarded your e-mail to our letters page editor. Thanks for being engaged in the debate."

Is this the publication that Clear Channel owns ? :D
 
PocketRadio said:
Is this the publication that Clear Channel owns ? :D
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No, I don't believe it is. If the "Educated Consumer" title you bestowed upon yourself was acdurate, you might know that. but then again...

By the way... Your opinion has been noted. And CRUSHED by the FCC as irrelevant.

Have a nice day...

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
PocketRadio said:
Is this the publication that Clear Channel owns ? :D
Click to expand...

No, I don't believe it is. If the "Educated Consumer" title you bestowed upon yourself was acdurate, you might know that. but then again...

By the way... Your opinion has been noted. And CRUSHED by the FCC as irrelevant.

Have a nice day...

Clouseau
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"HD Radio is a farce !"

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/

It's up to the marketplace to determine the fate of HD Radio - have a nice day ! :D
 
PocketRadio said:
I sent an edited version of this to the author, Paul Mclean, and this was his response:

"Thanks *****. I did write the truth, which is to report Paul McLane thinks about the matter. But I'm also happy to publish what you think. I'm proud that RW has published more opinions on all sides of this debate, and certainly more anti-IBOC opinion, than any other radio publication. I've forwarded your e-mail to our letters page editor. Thanks for being engaged in the debate."

Is this the publication that Clear Channel owns ? :D
Click to expand...

That's good. I'm sure your letter will cause countless engineers to laugh their asses off.
 
vistasuxx said:
PocketRadio said:
I sent an edited version of this to the author, Paul Mclean, and this was his response:

"Thanks *****. I did write the truth, which is to report Paul McLane thinks about the matter. But I'm also happy to publish what you think. I'm proud that RW has published more opinions on all sides of this debate, and certainly more anti-IBOC opinion, than any other radio publication. I've forwarded your e-mail to our letters page editor. Thanks for being engaged in the debate."

Is this the publication that Clear Channel owns ? :D
Click to expand...

That's good. I'm sure your letter will cause countless engineers to laugh their asses off.
Click to expand...

Actually, that did happen - I complained to WTOP/WTWP for hissing all over WTRI and an engineer asked me to call him on his cell phone; evidentually, the "suits" were not too happy with the articles that I sent in, but we talked about 1/2 hour and had some good laughs over HD:

Dear ****,

I would appreciate a call from you (on my cell phone).

Ken Sleeman
Transmitter Site Manager
Bonneville International Corporation
WTOP AM/FM, WTWP AM/FM
WGMS/WGYS, WFED
3400 Idaho Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20016
Office: ***-***-****
Cell: ***-***-****
********@bicdc.com

----Original Message-----
From: Brian Oliger
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 09:40
To: Ken Sleeman; Art Rose
Subject: Fw: HD/IBOC (HD Radio) on 1500 AM WTWP (WTOP)

Don't know why Jim didn't copy you on this...FYI.

BJO

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Brian Oliger
WTOP / WFED / WTWP Radio
Washington, DC

Sent via Blackberry Wireless

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Farley
To: Dave Garner; John Spaulding; Brian Oliger
Cc: Joel Oxley
Sent: Mon May 07 09:22:24 2007
Subject: FW: HD/IBOC (HD Radio) on 1500 AM WTWP (WTOP)

________________________________

From: Washington Post Radio Listener Comments
Sent: Sat 5/5/2007 1:52 PM
To: Jim Farley; Greg Tantum
Subject: FW: HD/IBOC (HD Radio) on 1500 AM WTWP (WTOP)

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