KevinFodor said:Then, came "Viva 103.1", in a market that's only (according to published statistics) 2% hispanic. 'Nuff said there.
Hollis said:I love the part of the article where he actually "justifies" evading his taxes. I've never seen someone with such a sense of entitlement.
KevinFodor said:I have not seen the Columbus Monthly article as of yet, but I intend to read it.
Nu_Roo_2 said:Come to think of it, I guess he *could* have cut to the chase with even fewer words: "Gimme!"
pbf1 said:They don't do electronic. Gotta get the print.
Nu_Roo_2 said:KevinFodor said:I have not seen the Columbus Monthly article as of yet, but I intend to read it.
Brace yourself. You have to get almost all the way through the article before you get to Percy's revelation that he is planning a blockbuster deal involving 13 stations.
Hey, you say you worked for him -- maybe you can tell us what planet he's from (and I'm not talking about Youngstown).
Well, NuRoo, I have no idea as to the celestial body you'd like to know about. But, I was PD of Star 107.9, which was, of course, purchased by Stop 26/Riverbend and owned by them for, well, months I guess. And, now you know my "real" name.
I left when it became obvious to me that the financial problems were mounting so high that, though the programming changes we were in the process of making at Star (leaning the station in a more rock direction) would work, ratings-wise (and they did work), it appeared as though Percy was hell bent on making Star an Urban station. And that would have happened, had WBNS not suddenly abandoned oldies and left an obvious potential market.
BTW: to another poster: I was not suggesting in my previous post that a Hispanic format could "never" work in Columbus. I was only saying available statistics at that time indicated the percentage of Hispanics at 2%. I had had discussions with Star G.M. Bill Cusack about "when do you think someone should pull the trigger and do a Hispanic format?" His thought was: at the point statistics show the area with a 4 to 6% Hispanic population. Whose statisics would be better to use, I don't know. But I do agree with the poster...the weak signal of 103.1 was a liability to success. Then add the "problems" the station had (and I use that term loosely) and the result was what you heard.
A 13 station deal? I suppose that's not out of the question. But, I can remember hearing many times from Percy that a 10-20 million dollar refinancing deal for Stop 26 would happen "any day now". Perhaps he can pull it off. (Remember: he beat Clear Channel in a deal in Youngstown.) But, I certainly have reason to be skeptical.
CBusDave said:KevinFodor said:Then, came "Viva 103.1", in a market that's only (according to published statistics) 2% hispanic. 'Nuff said there.
I would argue this number but unfortunately there is no data available to back up my argument. This published statistic is from the Census bureau (which no illegal resident would ever respond to) and the best guess estimate of 2% was from the 2000 census. A lot has changed in the last 6 years and the signs of the times are increasing exponentially on the west side. Almost every business offers spanish signage and all the banks offer spanish speaking tellers. Here's another example, South-Western City schools offer all their relatively important documents in English, Spanish and Somali... that wouldn't happen if there wasn't a demand for it.
So I wouldn't really argue that there isn't a niche available for Spanish speaking broadcasting because I think there is... 103.1 is definitely the wrong signal for it though. Geographically speaking, I think the Hispanic population is bigger on the west side and 103.1 is virtually non-existent over there.
KevinFodor said:CBusDave said:I would argue this number but unfortunately there is no data available to back up my argument. This published statistic is from the Census bureau (which no illegal resident would ever respond to) and the best guess estimate of 2% was from the 2000 census. A lot has changed in the last 6 years and the signs of the times are increasing exponentially on the west side. Almost every business offers spanish signage and all the banks offer spanish speaking tellers. Here's another example, South-Western City schools offer all their relatively important documents in English, Spanish and Somali... that wouldn't happen if there wasn't a demand for it.
So I wouldn't really argue that there isn't a niche available for Spanish speaking broadcasting because I think there is... 103.1 is definitely the wrong signal for it though. Geographically speaking, I think the Hispanic population is bigger on the west side and 103.1 is virtually non-existent over there.
CBus: Everything you said here is correct. I lived in Columbus until a month ago. The west side is becoming more "melting pot". But...illegals don't fill out census forms...or...Arbitron ratings diaries. That makes them irrelevant to the argument. They might be there, but until they can be counted, they don't exist to advertisers.
In another post, I mentioned a former G.M. assuming a Hispanic format could succeed when statistics showed a 4-6% Hispanic audience. It ain't there yet. At least in available statistics. So, 103.1 had a minimal chance of succeeding under "Viva". Remember...perception (what is available to be counted) is reality. (To advertisers, the only thing that matters to a business.) It ain't what "is", it's what advertisers and agencies think it "is". (Most often through "statistics".)
gabigley1 said:It looks like we have lucked out here. Click here for the entire story on WVKO:
http://www.columbusmonthly.com/article2.html