The Felon At Fenway

[raccoonradio]

My good friend Jason Wolfe (he MUST be, I keep getting emails from him--but maybe that's just because
I'm on the WRKO mailing list...and WTKK, and WKLB...) tells me: "Tomorrow At Game On! 82 Lansdowne Street Tom Finneran will be broadcasting his show Finneran’s Forum LIVE from 6AM-10AM. "

They're giving away T-shirts & tickets.. Feinburg will be on "until game time" (sorry Rush fans but of course the game
starts at 2 pm anyway...and sorry Howie fans, who will wind up having to find him elsewhere, his first
couple hours...oh and the game's also on 850. Prob the last time it'll be on 2 stations but who knows.

 

[TravisWMLN]

They have been bouncing between the two stations so much that it is becoming confusing...hopefully they either stick with rko or just go ahead and move back to eei

 

[TSBench]

They have been bouncing between the two stations so much that it is becoming confusing...hopefully they either stick with rko or just go ahead and move back to eei

WRKO nights and weekends, WEEI day games and Wednesday nights. I think Entercom is betting that Sox fans will be able to figure it out. Sort of like how they somehow manage figure out when Sox telecasts are on NESN or ESPN, or elsewhere.

Regards,
TSB

 

[SonicOverload]

very confusing... announcers, stations... stupid.

 

[weee]

TSB, the point is we shouldn't have to think..."Wait, today is a Thursday day game, so they're on 'EEI" This is going to turn a lot of people off, I know I don't like it. But in true ignorant fashion, what do they (EEI) do when someone (Allison) called up to say the move was stupid? She has gotten made fun of to no end. Yup, class.

 

[AvenueA]

WRKO nights and weekends, WEEI day games and Wednesday nights. I think Entercom is betting that Sox fans will be able to figure it out. Sort of like how they somehow manage figure out when Sox telecasts are on NESN or ESPN, or elsewhere.

Regards,
TSB

WOW TSB, you know nothing about Arbitron diarykeepers!

 

[TSBench]

WRKO nights and weekends, WEEI day games and Wednesday nights. I think Entercom is betting that Sox fans will be able to figure it out. Sort of like how they somehow manage figure out when Sox telecasts are on NESN or ESPN, or elsewhere.

Regards,
TSB

WOW TSB, you know nothing about Arbitron diarykeepers!

Although I've never been allowed to keep one, I know quite a bit about Arbitron diaries. All you have to do is put 'Red Sox' in your diary (and that's how sports play-by-play is usually denoted), without even the station calls or freq, for the station carrying the game in your area to get credit for it.

Subscribing stations send lists of air talent, program names, schedules and call letter flips, to Arbitron just to guard against listener screw-ups. This was true 40 years ago, and its probably even more true, and sophisticated, today. If you really get confused and put, say, 'Red Sox, 850am', on a night when the Sox are on WRKO, your listening is automatically flipped to WRKO.

Arbitron, and the stations, try to make these things as idiot-proof as possible.

Of course, you already knew this.

Regards,
TSB

 

[AvenueA]

All you have to do is put 'Red Sox' in your diary (and that's how sports play-by-play is usually denoted), without even the station calls or freq, for the station carrying the game in your area to get credit for it.

Lotsa folks will put "WEEI" in the diary even when it's on WRKO. Bank on it.

 

[media buyer]

<put, say, 'Red Sox, 850am', on a night when the Sox are on WRKO, your listening is automatically flipped to WRKO.>
No - not exactly. If Red Sox 850 am was listed (and the game were on 680) the two stations would slpit credit. Many a PD have pulled their hair out over this when doing diary reviews.

 

[TSBench]

All you have to do is put 'Red Sox' in your diary (and that's how sports play-by-play is usually denoted), without even the station calls or freq, for the station carrying the game in your area to get credit for it.

Lotsa folks will put "WEEI" in the diary even when it's on WRKO. Bank on it.

Actually, that's pretty rare. Arbitron follow-ups have shown that diary keepers, compared to non-survey participants, tend to be more fastidious in keeping their listening straight, going out of their way to be very precise, sometimes to ridiculous lengths (although the preciseness tends to fall off as time goes by. When you read the raw diaries you can see this, even their handwriting is better earlier in the survey period.) Heck, I've seen diary entries which look like DX cards. If some Boston metro diary keeper can listen to "WRKO Radio" calls 25 times a game, plus a basket full of station promos, without figuring out what station they are listening to there just isn't anything that can be done for them. I guess WEEI will keep the listener and figure it all goes into the same pot.

So, I won't bank on it, since I've seen the deposit slips and know how the bank operates.

Regards,
TSB

 

[TSBench]

<put, say, 'Red Sox, 850am', on a night when the Sox are on WRKO, your listening is automatically flipped to WRKO.>
No - not exactly. If Red Sox 850 am was listed (and the game were on 680) the two stations would slpit credit. Many a PD have pulled their hair out over this when doing diary reviews.

Good point, bad example on my part, forgot about the splits. Of course, this was one reason why they ran pre-season games and the two openers on WRKO; to get listeners into the WRKO mode.

I have a feeling that they'll run enough promos, and hit the call letters enough, that this won't be a enough of a problem with diary keepers that anyone at Entercom is going to lose any sleep over once the season settles down and it will become a self-solving problem. WEEI's problem will be making sure Sox fans know about THEIR Wednesday night games. I have a feeling they'll take care of that one, too.

Diary keepers tend to pay pretty close attention. I think this is one of those 'inside' radio problems which will sort itself out.

Regards,
TSB

 

[media buyer]

<Diary keepers tend to pay pretty close attention.> You've never been to Beltsville for a diary review, have you? Diary keeps don't at all pay attention... and frankly most radio stations don't give diary keepers good reasons to "recall their station" (which is good reason for the people meter). If you saw what I saw written in diaries, you'd be shocked.

 

[TSBench]

<Diary keepers tend to pay pretty close attention.> You've never been to Beltsville for a diary review, have you?>>>

Yep, back in the early 80s. Things may have changed, but most of them seemed pretty accurate and precise to me. We went down to check on something which we thought had to be wrong but was, to our shock, absolutely correct. I was shocked by what I didn't find.

Your mileage may vary, and obviously does.

Regards,
TSB

 

[WLYNWAZNgm]

When the same company owns both stations - it really makes no difference.
It is like cigarettes and breakfast cereals. There may be a whole bunch of "brand names", but they are
made by a handful of companies. Who cares which "brand" they buy - as long as it's one of our's...

 

[57rick]

What's soooo confusing for everyone! If the games not on WEEI then it's on WRKO.
Some people are sooo lazy....GOD!

 

[raccoonradio]

Yes but...heard this morning on WRKO: "Today's Red Sox game will be on our sister station, WEEI" (then
about a minute later): "Remember, WRKO is the your home for Red Sox baseball. Catch all the action here."
(Except for the dozens of times when it's...not here. Though I'm sure that people are now used to finding it on the other spot of the dial on occasion.

 

[Tired Of It All]

Where is Tommy the felon and what is he doing these days?