atlantaboy said:
You seem absolutely convinced that the Rhythmic format, and Dance music in general, needs to be successful in every market, basically because you love it...
Now this is not true at all. This is just an assumption you've developed about me (and a few others) based on some posts and a few songs that you've seen discussed here, in CHR/Pop, and perhaps a post I put in HOT AC. I never really said the rhythmic format
needs to be successful in every market. I didn't even say it
needs to be in Atlanta. However, I did say it should be tried and could can be successful *in Atlanta*. My strong belief that a good rhythmic (or chr) could work in Atlanta doesn't mean I'm expecting every market to do it. Just Atlanta. Besides, almost every other market has a full chr / rhythmic or two on a clear signal of some sort, and every single one within the top 20 (with exception to Atl.) does.
As far as dance in general, I never once said dance music *in Atlanta* has to be successful outside of mixshow play, and why would I say dance
has to be successful anywhere else - when it already dominates chr almost nationwide?
I feel like we (amongst a few other folks) have already had this discussion and explained this already somewhere else. If I talk about a few pop songs that tend to be uptempo and rhythmic friendly and if I also come to the Atlanta section and talk about the rhythmic format or about V103 playing dance in a mix, those two things combined do not equal
"This must mean he wants ALL markets to do the exact same thing and he expects it to be successful everywhere".
By the way, I'll sum up what I've mainly discussed in the Atl. section over the years in a nutshell:
-1. At least ONE urban station trying an electro-hip hop or dance segment - within a mixshow.
-2. A properly ran WWVA or a similar styled format - being put on a full signal *in Atlanta*.
That's about it. And by the way, 2/3rds of those things have already taken place. I guess you could add that I sometimes talk about Atlanta college or school / community stations trying dance, but... eh... that's just me throwing out an idea, and with the amount of school stations Atlanta has, why not throw the idea out there?
Also, Phoenix also didn't have a pure rhythmic station for about 20 years also. It was always an off-shoot of the rhythmic station that either leaned heavily urban or was very top-40-ish. There was a time they didn't even have a top 40, and previous to that, the rhythmic station that was attempted on a mediocre signal failed twice. If the Phoenix market's now leading KZON were never tried on a full signal in 2007, a bunch of people would
still be logging in today talking about how "It could never work... it has never worked... no one wants to hear it, and that's why no one ever did it again....etc."
Saying it's never been done before and that the stations that were closest to the format style that could've done it refused to do it - so therefore, that means it's impossible; That's like saying every format that didn't exist before it came into existence was "impossible to do" ... of course, before it was tried and proven. If you're counting 95.5 The Beat as a rhythmic format that didn't do well, well... there is a reason why it didn't do well, which I don't think needs to be explained because most of us already know why on at least a basic level, and whoever's in charge of WWVA was smart enough to not let what was being done at WBTS continue to happen at WWVA.
As far as the fact that most people in offices may not listen to a rhythmic, I can agree with that. However, ... actually forget the 'however'. To wrap this up, unlike Hot AC, Urban, and Alternative, CHR is pretty much a typical format that happens to have worldwide success. Of course I'd
expect it to work. I don't think Atlanta has a "full chr". If it did, then I don't think anyone would be talking about it anymore.
