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The Balloon signals would appear to be regular cell phone calls in the correct frequency range and signal ID, the cell phone user would just answer their phone and get the emergency info.


Kirk Bayne
 
Is there some tech reason that the cell signal from the Balloon couldn't identify as an AT&T network signal, send the info, then identify as a T-Mobile network signal, send the same info and then identify as a Verizon network signal and send the same info, then cycle back to AT&T?


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There’s a pointlessness reason at the very least
 
But when they separated from VOA content, they changed the audio sourcing system. Obviously, there was no studio on Marathon (although the Key Lime Pie bakery right next to the access road to the site is about the best one there).

Right. We did FND runs on that telco line between Site C and Marathon weekly (or was it monthly?). I can guess the only reason the Marathon audio feed was from Greenville is that a telco line from Greenville to Marathon was cheaper than a telco line from Washington to Marathon. There would be no other reason to do it that way.

For some reason, David, I am thinking that when Marathon went from the regular Spanish feed to the Radio Mari, they were getting Radio Marti out of the Miami studio operations. We, at Greenville, were far enough down in the chain that things like that, the new source of audio for Marathon, that just wasn't something we worried about. Thanks.

1983 for Radio Martí. I did the annual revue mandated by Congress in 1985, and I think that was the third one ever done.

One of the many little things which I don't remember was the exact time frame we no longer had to do the FND runs on the telco line. I left Greenville in 1989, and I know it was not being checked at that point.
 
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Is there some tech reason that the cell signal from the Balloon couldn't identify as an AT&T network signal, send the info, then identify as a T-Mobile network signal, send the same info and then identify as a Verizon network signal and send the same info, then cycle back to AT&T?


Kirk Bayne
Uhhhhh.......what? I already mention there are such things as mobile cell sites that are brought in on trucks.
 
Here you go, Kirk. This was from 1994.
"Students at Purdue University are getting turned on to creativity, engineering and inventiveness by turning on their radios -- Rube Goldberg style.
The task for Purdue's 13th annual Rube Goldberg Machine Contest is to build the most complicated and ludicrous machine to successfully turn on a radio."
 
When nothing is happening, the [Emergency Radio] AM stations could rebroadcast the audio from CNN or FOX cable news or MSNBC cable news.
Simulcasting TV newscasts on the radio has always been a bad idea because those broadcasts assume that you are watching what they are talking about. They will say "As you can see on the screen" when you don't have access to the screen. In the unlikely scenario in which your proposal is implemented, you need a news service that is designed for radio, not TV.
 
Right. We did FND runs on that telco line between Site C and Marathon weekly (or was it monthly?). I can guess the only reason the Marathon audio feed was from Greenville is that a telco line from Greenville to Marathon was cheaper than a telco line from Washington to Marathon. There would be no other reason to do it that way.

For some reason, David, I am thinking that when Marathon went from the regular Spanish feed to the Radio Mari, they were getting Radio Marti out of the Miami studio operations. We, at Greenville, were far enough down in the chain that things like that, the new source of audio for Marathon, that just wasn't something we worried about. Thanks.



One of the many little things which I don't remember was the exact time frame we no longer had to do the FND runs on the telco line. I left Greenville in 1989, and I know it was not being checked at that point.
When I was at the Miami Federal Building for my First Class FCC License test, I wandered by a door that indicated it was the VOA Miami bureau. I went inside and talked briefly to the man who was there. I don't know that there was anything more a newsperson with rudimentary audio equipment.
 
Simulcasting TV newscasts on the radio has always been a bad idea because those broadcasts assume that you are watching what they are talking about. They will say "As you can see on the screen" when you don't have access to the screen. In the unlikely scenario in which your proposal is implemented, you need a news service that is designed for radio, not TV.
When WHIO-TV coverage is simulcast on radio, the talent is prompted "don't forget radio".
 
Simulcasting TV newscasts on the radio has always been a bad idea because those broadcasts assume that you are watching what they are talking about. They will say "As you can see on the screen" when you don't have access to the screen. In the unlikely scenario in which your proposal is implemented, you need a news service that is designed for radio, not TV.
And yet SiriusXM's simulcast of Fox News Channel has always been among its most popular offerings.
 
Or... a brute force type of thing could be done...use drones/small airplanes to drop many AM/FM battery powered radios into affected areas and develop some sort of portable, fairly easy to assemble AM transmitter for FEMA (set up in a nearby unaffected area - possibly run with a diesel generator), maybe just a 10kW AM signal to provide emergency info.

REWIND! REWIND! You were onto the right idea a few posts ago. You weren’t quite there, but you were SOOOOOOOOO close. The proper way of alerting people in times of disaster will probably involve a satellite backup for when cell networks go down. Emergency alerts could either be pushed to cell phones or sent via text. The technology already exists, and it can be done in a way that it won’t affect consumer demand on smartphone and tablet product. This isn’t the 80’s or early 90’s anymore. There's less of a demand for getting receivers in everyone's hand than ever before. Almost everyone already has one. It’s called a cell phone. It just receives different signals than a radio, and you can push alerts right to them.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? You're totally off the deep end. :ROFLMAO:

Well, we did legalize it for recreational sales a couple months ago in Missouri. I believe recreational sales started statewide about two months ago. There's a dispensary within walking distance of my house, and it’s doing gangbusters!
 
Uhhhhh.......what? I already mention there are such things as mobile cell sites that are brought in on trucks.
That works if roads are clear and undamaged. In some cases, such as the hurricane in Puerto Rico, there was no way to get such facilities into most locations. Similar situations would apply in severe earthquakes, wide tornado zones and those huge western fire areas. Those trucks are mostly intended for things like a big concert in Central Park (or Coachella... they bring in about 10 of those from the different providers),,, but not always doable or practical in the kind of major emergency we are talking about.
 
REWIND! REWIND! You were onto the right idea a few posts ago. You weren’t quite there, but you were SOOOOOOOOO close. The proper way of alerting people in times of disaster will probably involve a satellite backup for when cell networks go down. Emergency alerts could either be pushed to cell phones or sent via text. The technology already exists, and it can be done in a way that it won’t affect consumer demand on smartphone and tablet product. This isn’t the 80’s or early 90’s anymore. There's less of a demand for getting receivers in everyone's hand than ever before. Almost everyone already has one. It’s called a cell phone. It just receives different signals than a radio, and you can push alerts right to them.



Well, we did legalize it for recreational sales a couple months ago in Missouri. I believe recreational sales started statewide about two months ago. There's a dispensary within walking distance of my house, and it’s doing gangbusters!
It would seem only marijuana and unrestricted-in-any-way guns are legal in Missouri
 
REWIND! REWIND! You were onto the right idea a few posts ago. You weren’t quite there, but you were SOOOOOOOOO close. The proper way of alerting people in times of disaster will probably involve a satellite backup for when cell networks go down. Emergency alerts could either be pushed to cell phones or sent via text. The technology already exists, and it can be done in a way that it won’t affect consumer demand on smartphone and tablet product. This isn’t the 80’s or early 90’s anymore. There's less of a demand for getting receivers in everyone's hand than ever before. Almost everyone already has one. It’s called a cell phone. It just receives different signals than a radio, and you can push alerts right to them.
There is a finite limit on such temporary service based on people's batter life, the number of times running the car to recharge batteries can be done and, of course, the extent of damage limiting any kind of power for recharging.

For the majority of people, the cell phone has a very finite "one charge" usage limit. That will only work for the immediate first few hours, and depends on being replaced with something with a longer life span.
 
When nothing is happening, the ER AM stations could rebroadcast the audio from CNN or FOX cable news or MSNBC cable news.

AFAIK none of those cable channels offer radio simulcasts any more. CNN did at one time. In any case, for any radio station to simulcast anyone else's audio, regardless of the source, they would need legal permission to do it, and would likely have to pay a rights fee. Who would pay that fee? Everything that you're talking about costs money.
 
Simulcasting TV newscasts on the radio has always been a bad idea because those broadcasts assume that you are watching what they are talking about. They will say "As you can see on the screen" when you don't have access to the screen. In the unlikely scenario in which your proposal is implemented, you need a news service that is designed for radio, not TV.

Personally, I always preferred when we covered severe weather on radio ourselves. I worked at a cluster that even had its own radar and its own meteorologist. Granted, that radar was almost as old as I am, but it worked, and we could still zoom into the map so well we could tell exactly where a storm was. “If you're just north of downtown, take cover immediately. A supercell is currently directly over the intersection of Providence and Sexton Rd!” That's something you don’t see much of on TV.

TV audio, however, is better than doing nothing. I was listening to storm coverage in Little Rock Friday afternoon. The three main radio clusters (iHeart, Cumulus, and Signal) were airing TV audio from the Big Three TV stations. It wasn’t terrible coverage by any means, and the other stations in the area were just in regular programming (though I can’t vouch for Salem; its streaming was down).

The cluster where I worked that had its own radar and meteorologist is now owned by Cumulus, which canned the meteorologist in the Great Headroll of 2008 and 2009. It has been using TV audio ever since. It's a downgrade, but, when I'm in my basement shelter during a tornado warning, I still get a good picture of what’s going on and where. I agree with you that “you can see the damage right now” is irritating to hear on radio, but I'm usually turning off the radio and going back upstairs to watch the coverage on TV after the storm blows past my house.
 
Well...maybe some drones dropping 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper with simple maps showing where the water and food stations will be set up and maybe some reminders of what not to do after a natural disaster.

Would just need a stockpile of drones + laser printers + ink + paper that can be moved into position and put to use printing emergency info.


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