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The glory days are over

I remember in the 80's sitting in a basement with a transistor radio listening to a College Radio station. The DJ said he was going to play a whole hr of Robyn Hitchcock. I thought who the heck is RH? Boy did I learn quick! It was the most liberating hr of my life. I ran to the store the next day and bought all the Robyn Hitchcock I could find. This does'nt happen anymore. Todays College DJ plays Dave Mathews and hangs out at Coffee Shops. The sense of adventuire and discovery is gone!!! This generation is a boring bunch of conformist!!!!
 
Yeap. College radio is a shadow of what it once was.
You can thank a number of factors:

1)No more small and mid-size labels that would take a chance on a Robyn Hitchcock or a Jazz Butcher or a (put in a fair-to-middlin' appeal artist here-American or English)

2) College programmers/managers with no imagination/balls.

3) Fear of 'offensive' content, even before Janet Jackson.

4) The characters from #2 are usually unsucessful, former commercial radio employees. They want to 'share' their 'vision' wtih the world. And flagellate the staff with it.

This is why I listen to WFMU. And loathe radio people.





> I remember in the 80's sitting in a basement with a
> transistor radio listening to a College Radio station. The
> DJ said he was going to play a whole hr of Robyn Hitchcock.
> I thought who the heck is RH? Boy did I learn quick! It
> was the most liberating hr of my life. I ran to the store
> the next day and bought all the Robyn Hitchcock I could
> find. This does'nt happen anymore. Todays College DJ plays
> Dave Mathews and hangs out at Coffee Shops. The sense of
> adventuire and discovery is gone!!! This generation is a
> boring bunch of conformist!!!!
>
 
> I remember in the 80's sitting in a basement with a
> transistor radio listening to a College Radio station. The
> DJ said he was going to play a whole hr of Robyn Hitchcock.
> I thought who the heck is RH? Boy did I learn quick! It
> was the most liberating hr of my life. I ran to the store
> the next day and bought all the Robyn Hitchcock I could
> find. This does'nt happen anymore. Todays College DJ plays
> Dave Mathews and hangs out at Coffee Shops. The sense of
> adventuire and discovery is gone!!! This generation is a
> boring bunch of conformist!!!!
>

The college station I work at while at school has a main format dedicated to uncovering new, independent artists. We get lots of music from all sorts of indie rock labels. So not all college stations have hit the pot...
 
> Yeap. College radio is a shadow of what it once was.
> You can thank a number of factors:
>
> 1)No more small and mid-size labels that would take a chance
> on a Robyn Hitchcock or a Jazz Butcher or a (put in a
> fair-to-middlin' appeal artist here-American or English)
>
> 2) College programmers/managers with no imagination/balls.
>
> 3) Fear of 'offensive' content, even before Janet Jackson.
>
> 4) The characters from #2 are usually unsucessful, former
> commercial radio employees. They want to 'share' their
> 'vision' wtih the world. And flagellate the staff with it.
>
>
> This is why I listen to WFMU. And loathe radio people.
>
While it is true that many college stations are afraid to take risks these days (and many have jumped the shark and have hired professional jocks or even put on NPR-type programming), there are still gems out there that follow the spirit of college, non-commercial radio. The station I am a part of includes 4 different shows featuring new music from local artists, plus a variety of shows that play new music in all genres (from punk and metal to electronic to hip-hop to world music to even jazz and country). A lot of local bands also perform live at our station. In fact, we encourage our DJ's to play at least 25% "new" music (released within the last three months or, if local, six months) on all music-related shows. Yes, occassionally you will hear a more mainstream artist, but even then, it is likely an album cut or an older work of theirs before they became big.
 
Flyer Radio in Dayton also plays a lot of indie rock as well. It seems to me that people listen to Flyer Radio not so much for the music, but just to hear their friends talk on the air. I find that the disadvantage for people who want to work in radio doing indie rock is when it comes to applying for a job, typically stations will want you to have experience in their format. Typically, most camercial stations are not playing indie rock music. That's my problem with the format.
 
Wait-Country and no Western? Hahaha.

What is the name of your outlet?

I would like to listen to this 'gem'.

I submit: The ability to qualify and quantify your music leads me to believe there is a lot to be desired. Post a playlist. And tell us who you are.




> While it is true that many college stations are afraid to
> take risks these days (and many have jumped the shark and
> have hired professional jocks or even put on NPR-type
> programming), there are still gems out there that follow the
> spirit of college, non-commercial radio. The station I am a
> part of includes 4 different shows featuring new music from
> local artists, plus a variety of shows that play new music
> in all genres (from punk and metal to electronic to hip-hop
> to world music to even jazz and country). A lot of local
> bands also perform live at our station. In fact, we
> encourage our DJ's to play at least 25% "new" music
> (released within the last three months or, if local, six
> months) on all music-related shows. Yes, occassionally you
> will hear a more mainstream artist, but even then, it is
> likely an album cut or an older work of theirs before they
> became big.
>
 
My old station WDBK-FM we were a dance format. It was cutting edge cause no one in the area was playing it. Also a lot of college stations are now streaming and you cant play hour long sets of artists because of new laws in place involving streaming live.
 
> Wait-Country and no Western? Hahaha.
>
> What is the name of your outlet?
>
> I would like to listen to this 'gem'.
>
> I submit: The ability to qualify and quantify your music
> leads me to believe there is a lot to be desired. Post a
> playlist. And tell us who you are.
>
WUSB 90.1 FM, Stony Brook, NY (SUNY Stony Brook)

Here's a recent top 30 from our CMJ chart:

1 BLOC PARTY Silent Alarm

2 MERCURY REV The Secret Migration

3 BELLE AND SEBASTIAN Push Barman To Open Old Wounds

4 SLEATER-KINNEY The Woods

5 BECK Guero

6 TEENAGE FANCLUB Man-Made

7 THE CATCH Get Cool

8 BEN FOLDS Songs For Silverman

9 EPOXIES Stop The Future

10 AQUALUNG Strange And Beautiful

11 ELLIS PAUL American Jukebox Fables

12 MANDO DIAO Hurricane Bar

13 GOMEZ Out West

14 IVY In The Clear

15 CAESARS Paper Tigers

16 M.I.A. Arular

17 MAXIMO PARK A Certain Trigger

18 DECEMBERISTS Picaresque

19 AQUEDUCT I Sold Gold

20 ROBERT PLANT AND THE STRANGE SENSATION Mighty Rearranger

21 RAVEONETTES Pretty In Black

22 LOUIS XIV The Best Little Secrets Are Kept

23 KILLS No Wow

24 MOBY Hotel

25 WEEZER Make Believe

26 STEPHEN MALKMUS Face The Truth

27 TIGER BABY Lost In You

28 ANTONY AND THE JOHNSONS I Am A Bird Now

29 QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE Lullabies To Paralyze

30 JACK JOHNSON In Between Dreams


Keep in mind, this is our overall top 30 of "new" music. Some well known arists, some not so mainstream (even our more mainstream-leaning spins would be album cuts that aren't heard on commercial radio). Each individual show has its own playlist, and many of our programs have individual websites where their playlists are posted. Check out www.wusb.fm (and pardon the site, it's under reconstruction). Keep in mind: DJ's at WUSB have the freedom to play the music they want to play (as long as it meets FCC guidelines for indecency/obscenity). The station does not impose a playlist on any on-air host.
 
> WUSB 90.1 FM, Stony Brook, NY (SUNY Stony Brook)

Oh yeah, the 2600 guy does a show from there on tuesdays.


>
> Here's a recent top 30 from our CMJ chart:

CMJ-what a lovely publication.

**SNIP**


> Keep in mind, this is our overall top 30 of "new" music.
> Some well known arists, some not so mainstream (even our
> more mainstream-leaning spins would be album cuts that
> aren't heard on commercial radio)

You mean albums. Since the links aren't working, I can't see playlists. And why not lend the students space on the main site for the playlists? Outside hosting (unless the students feel the music is 'proprietary') should be reserved for more involved web presentation. Host some text of show playlists.

This is the problem with top (anything). Well, particularly this group of what I am guessing are mostly white artists. And mostly commercially recognizable and sucessful artists. The list begats more stuff from the list. And even though the jocks 'have the freedom to play what they want to play'-judging from this group, there is no real risk taking. I've heard some of these artists on K-Rock. Without seeing the playlists broken down, it appears that this 'gem' is another factory-made zirconia. For which CMJ is partially to blame.

Do most of these jocks aspire to be in commercial radio?

The station
> does not impose a playlist on any on-air host.
>

They seem to impose it on themselves.


<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by raydofan on 06/30/05 01:57 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> I remember in the 80's sitting in a basement with a
> transistor radio listening to a College Radio station. The
> DJ said he was going to play a whole hr of Robyn Hitchcock.
> I thought who the heck is RH? Boy did I learn quick! It
> was the most liberating hr of my life. I ran to the store
> the next day and bought all the Robyn Hitchcock I could
> find. This does'nt happen anymore. Todays College DJ plays
> Dave Mathews and hangs out at Coffee Shops. The sense of
> adventuire and discovery is gone!!! This generation is a
> boring bunch of conformist!!!!

Still all kinds of very non-mainstream music shows at various times on the following college stations around Boston (and others):

WMBR 88.1 FM M.I.T.
WZBC 90.3 FM Boston College
WMFO 91.5 FM Tufts U.
WUML 91.5 FM U. Mass Lowell
WMWM 91.7 FM Salem State
WHRB 95.3 FM Harvard U.
WBRS 100.1 FM Brandeis U.

And, Dave Matthews would be unlikely to be heard on any of them. The commercial AAA stations here play him.
 
> > WUSB 90.1 FM, Stony Brook, NY (SUNY Stony Brook)
>
> Oh yeah, the 2600 guy does a show from there on tuesdays.

And has a very loyal following, thank you.

> > Here's a recent top 30 from our CMJ chart:
>
> CMJ-what a lovely publication.
>
What does that have to do with what we play?
>
>
> > Keep in mind, this is our overall top 30 of "new" music.
> > Some well known arists, some not so mainstream (even our
> > more mainstream-leaning spins would be album cuts that
> > aren't heard on commercial radio)
>
> You mean albums. Since the links aren't working, I can't see
> playlists. And why not lend the students space on the main
> site for the playlists? Outside hosting (unless the students
> feel the music is 'proprietary') should be reserved for more
> involved web presentation. Host some text of show playlists.
>
Yes, of course I mean albums. And many of the links are working. It's up to the individual hosts if they want to host a site with their own playlists....if they want to, they can request that space from that webmaster and get it.

> This is the problem with top (anything). Well, particularly
> this group of what I am guessing are mostly white artists.
> And mostly commercially recognizable and sucessful artists.
> The list begats more stuff from the list. And even though
> the jocks 'have the freedom to play what they want to
> play'-judging from this group, there is no real risk taking.
> I've heard some of these artists on K-Rock. Without seeing
> the playlists broken down, it appears that this 'gem' is
> another factory-made zirconia. For which CMJ is partially to
> blame.

You do realize that the "top" album of the week at our station might get perhaps 4 spins?

Here's some sample playists from our shows:

Ballboy/Meet Me At the Shooting Range/A Guide To the Daylight Hours
Idlewild/The Remote Part-Scottish Fiction/In Remote Part
Ben Folds/Landed/Songs For Silverman (N)
Ed Harcourt/Loneliness/Strangers (N)
Brendan Benson/What I'm Looking For-Between Us/The Alternative To Love (N)
-------
Johnny Mathis/The Rainbow Connection/Isn't It Romantic (N/CRAP)
Petra Haden/Armenia City In The Sky/Sings The Who Sells Out (N) (for Tracy)
Mercury Rev/Black Forest (Lorelei)/The Secret Migration (N) (for the Gilmore Girls)
Swervedriver/Never Lose That Feeling-Never Understand/Mezcal Head
--------------
Mountain Goats/You Or Your Memory/Sunset Tree (N)
Neutral Milk Hotel/Track 10/In An Aeroplane Over the Sea
Destroyer/Way of Perpetual Roads/Thief
Mountain Goats/Going To Port Washington/Ghana (for Hilary)
Sparklehorse/Waiting For Nothing/Distorted Ghost EP
Vic Chesnutt/Ignorant People/Ghetto Bells (N)
Eels/Marie Floating Over the Backyard/Blinking Lights (N)
----------------------
Jim Gaffigan/Hooot Pocket!/Doing My Time (N)(for Pat)
Jessamine..EAR/Track 1/Living Sound
Todd Barry/I Heart Roe v Wade-Todd's Shirt/Falling Off the Bone (N)
Monty Python/Parrot Sketch/Live at Drury Lane (N)
Butterglory/Our (proud) Mascot/Crumble
Schwervon/Dinner/Quick Frozen Small Yellow Cracker
Bettie Serveert/Smile/Tomboy ep
Bettie Serveert/Don't Touch That Dial!/Attagirl (N)
Pavement/Sutcliffe Catering Song/Crooked Rain Crooked Rain LA's Desert origins
---------
50 Foot Wave/Bone China/GOlden Ocean (N) (for Dari)
Hot Hot Heat/Running Out of Time/Elevator (N) (for Joshbear - teehee giggle)
Clearlake/Cinnamon Girl (Neil Young)/Wonder If the Snow Will Settle (N)
The Sadies/Only You & Your Eyes/Favourite Colours (N)
Yo La Tengo/Blue Line Swinger/Prisoners of Love (N)
--------
Decemberists/Eli The Barrow Boy/Picaresque (N) (for Tracy)
Red House Painters/Have You Forgotten (alt)/Vanilla Sky Sndtrk (for Hilary)
Centro-matic/Destroyer/South San Gabriel Songs
Belle & Sebastian/Dog On Wheels/Push Barman to Open Old Wounds (N)
Eggman/Out of My Window/First Fruits
------------
Eric's Trip/Behind the Garage/Love Tara
Sloan/The Lines You Amend-Money City Maniacs/A-Sides Win (N)

shellac - maida vale 12/1/04 - the end of radio
----
at the drive-in - this station is non-operational - picket fence cartel (N)
pj harvey - dry - dress
blitzkriegbliss - every day is marked - beast (N)
pretty girls make graves - s/t ep - modern day emma goldman
tsunami bomb - the definitive act - being alright
pixies - bam thwok - bam thwok
sleater-kinney - the woods - entertain (N)
rainer maria - look now look again - breakfast of champions
------
the dissociatives - s/t - youg man, old man (N, R)
secret chiefs 3 - hurqalya - wavees of blood
gogol bordello - east infection - mala vida (n)
foo fighters - in your honor - in your honor (N, X)
planes mistaken for stars - s/t - copper and stars
------
mclusky - the difference between me and you is that i'm not on fire -
kkkitchens what were you thinking
gasoline fight - useless piece of weaponry - lay down and die
leatherface - dog disco - you
the national - alligator - abel (N)
constantines - shine a light - national hum
------
gang of 4 - entertainment - anthrax (N)
richard hell and the voidoids - blank generation - love comes in spirts
bongwater - breaking no new ground - 4 sticks (R)
vincent gallo - when - cracks
snakefinger - manual of errors - beatnick party (R)
the frogs - it's only right and natural - i don't care if you disrespect me
the residents - animal lover - what have my chickens done now? (N)
-------
pit er pat - shakey - vultures beware (n)
the evens - the evens - shelter two (N, X)
firehose - blaze single - blaze (R)
modest mouse - the lonesome crowded west - lounge (r)
-------
scarce - deadsexy - glamourizing cigarettes
nova mob - the last days of pompeii - admiral of the sea
fugazi - end hits - foreman's dog
routineers - s/t - messy room (N, X))
french toast - bugman ep - messy room (N, X)
------
dinosaur jr - you're living all over me - just like heaven (N)
rahim - jungles - one at a time (L, N)
reatards - bedroom disasters - runnin free
bloody mannequin orchestra - roadmap to revolution - streets of saigon
baboon - face down in turpentine - sucker

Bill Mack: Cat's Just Got Back In Town (Rockabilly Shakeout)
Bill Allen & the Keynotes: Oo-We-Baby (Eldorado)
Twilighters: Doing The Cha Cha Cha (Rare And Unissued)
Frankie Day & his Knights: Dance Party Rock (Studio)
Chuck Martin: Emma Lee (Nasco)
Boots Brown & the Blockbusters: Block Buster (RCA Victor)
Nelson Alexander Trio: Rock That Voot (Specialty Legends Of Boogie Woogie)
Coasters: Framed (The Ultimate Coasters)

Esquire Boys: Rock A Beatin' Boogie (Guyden)
Three Aces & A Joker: Booze Party (Sin Alley)
Elvis Pummel: A Marvel Comic And A Blue Jean (Rumble Mumble)
Johnny Scroggins: High Blood Pressure (All American Rock And Roll)
Chuck & Chuckles: Bury The Hatchet (Shad)
Spiders: I'm Slippin' In (Rare And Unissued)
Jackie & the Starlites: Valerie (...Meet The Bop Chords)

Southlanders: The Wiggle (Sin Alley)
Jerry J Nixon & the Volcanos: (We're Gonna) Wang Dang Doodle (Gentleman Of Rock And Roll)
Skeets Price & the Coastiaires: Tallahassee Lassie
Frankie & the Del Stars: Don't Shine Me On (Just Shuckin' Around)
Tommy Sands: Man Like Wow (The Worryin' Kind)
Moonrays: What's Your Name (Hey Baby! The Rockin' South)
Dave Joseph: Oo La La (Vanguard)
Pilgrims: Hurry Up And Ding Dong (Rare And Unissued)
Senators: Loretta (Wolf Call)
Unknown Genius: Knock Me Out (All American Rock And Roll)

Neatbeats: Baby Let's Get Shake (Everybody Need)
Kaisers: Don't Give Me Gravy (In Step With...)
King Usznieicz & his Usznieicztones: Bop Bop Baby (Twistin' And Bowlin' With...)
Hot Rods: I Don't Live You No More (RGM Rarities: The Beat Groups)
Franks: Come On Back (21st Century Freakbeat)
Saturn V feat. Orbit: She's The One (Having A Twist Party)
Checkers: Seeing Spots (Make A Move)

Shonen Knife: (Love Is Like A) Heatwave (Birds And The B-Sides)
Monsters From The Surf: Pajama Party (s/t)
9th Wave: Look Out (Time Tunnel)
Metalunas: Blast Off (X-Minus One)
Four Slicks: Bad Girl (Savage)
Flakes: Bip Bop Boom (Just Add Water)
Fevers: I Wanna Do It (Lipstick)
Monarchs: Boy Crazy On Mars (Bulb)
David John & the Mood: I Love To See You Strut (RGM Rarities: The Beat Groups)

Primal Scream: Ivy Ivy Ivy (s/t)
Giljoteens: One Track Mind (Get A Head)
Arch Hall Jr & the Archers: Kongo Joe (Wild Guitar)
Legends: The Mosquito (Hubba Hubba)
Reekers: Don't Call Me Flyface (Strictly Instrumental)
Oliver Cool: The Scream (Bran)
Little Caesar & the Conspirators: New Orleans (Grab This And Dance)
Primitives: You're Driving Me Insane (Design)

Big Rock & Tadpole: Ain't Hit A Shame (Out House)
Shuggie Smith & the Cajuns: Twistin' With Bad Boy Bubbles (Gift)
Death Dealers: Oh My Soul (Mr Pan)
Excels: Til The End Of The Day (Meet The...)
Mike & the Ravens: One Of These Days
Ko & the Knockouts: Twistin' Postman (s/t)
Subway Surfers: Good To Go (s/t)
Lids: Livin' Lovin' Wreck' (s/t)

Dr Frankenstein's Laboratory: I Was A Teenage Astro Monster (Crime Scene And Murder Songs)
Delstars: 6L6 (Land Locked And Loaded)
Charms w/Arlo Dee: The Switch (R Dell)
Bunnies: Let's Dance (s/t)
Don Covay: Popeye Waddle (Cameo Parkway 1957-1967)
Neanderthals: Li'l XKE (Shutdown 2002 BC)
Emerald City Bandits: Full Blown Caddy (Wail On The Beach)
Phil Flowers: The Dances (Sway)
Unknowns: Shake A Tail Feather (Highs In The Mid Sixties)

Maggots: Do The Maggot (Get Hooked)
Bloody Tears: Do The Swim (Downhanded)
Havenots: Get Happy (Just Go Destroy Everything In Sight)
Handsome Stranglers: Madman Stomp (Savage)
Pebbles: Don't You Know (Attack Of The Killer Boots)
Shams: Go On Livin' (Licorice Tree)

1. (T) Tommy Keys -- 2 Left Hands
1. (T) The Repercussions -- Modern Sounds

3. (T) Black 47 -- Elvis Murphy's Green Sude Shoes
3. (T) The Dare Ya Blues Band -- Lonely Street

5. (T) Karmasutra -- Karmasutra
5. (T) Sam Taylor -- Bluzman Back Home

7. (T) Stevie Cochran -- Got to Have a Song
7. (T) Gina Cutillo -- For the Love of C...
7. (T) Suck It Easy -- Suck It Easy
7. (T) Toby Tobias -- African Son

Sufjan Stevens: To Be Alone With You (Seven Swans)
Ben Folds: Late (Songs For Silverman)
Tiger Baby: That Feeling (Lost In You)
Two If By Sea: Escalator (Translations)
Bloc Party: Banquet (Silent Alarm)
The Stereo: Pay No Attention (Rewind + Record)
Squirrel Bait: Sun God (Self-titled)
Fitzgerald: How Far North? (Raised By Wolves)
Tobin Sprout: The Natural Alarm (Carnival Boy)
The Billions: I Won't Turn Away (Never Felt This Way Before)
The Pale Pacific: Identity Theft (Rules Are Predictable)
Sinclaire: Life At 24 Frames Per Second (Attention Teenage Girls)
Audible: From The Third Floor (Sky Signal)
Owen: The Ghost Of What Should've Been (No Good For No One Now)
Her Space Holiday: Sleepy California (The Young Machines)
The Go Find: City Dreamer (Miami)
Halloween, Alaska: You're It (Radio Edit) (Self-titled)
Bark Psychosis: Blue (Game Over)
Ivy: Keep Moving (In The Clear)
The Standard: Tree Line (August)
The Honorary Title: Frame By Frame (Anything Else But The Truth)
Copeland: Don't Slow Down (In Motion)
Me Without You: Torches Together (Catch For Us The Foxes)
Race For Titles: Don't Forget To Breathe (Self-titled)
The Spinanes: Meridian (Strand)
Wheat: Raised Ranch Revolution (Hope And Adams)
The Frames: Happy (Burn The Maps)

# Jazz Addixx "Oxygen"
# Busta Rhymes "I'll Hurt You"
# Insight "Evolve"
# Verbatim "Arrogant Individual"
# Jazz Addixx "Stress"
# Big Pooh "Whatever You Say"
# Masta Killa "High School"
# MF Doom "Potholderz"
# Boulevard Connection "Claiming Respect (remix)"
# Quasimoto "Broad Factor"
# Sa-Ra "Sa-Ra Space Theme"
# Masta Killa "D.T.D."
# O.C. "The Professional"
# U.N. "Ain't No Thang"
# Omni "American African"
# Boogiemonsters "Strange"
# Young Black Teenagers "Roll W/The Flavor"
# Medeski Martin & Wood "Midnight Birds (Sa-Ra remix)"
# Kice "Thumpin'"
# Prefuse 73 w/Ghostface & El-P "Hideyaface (El-P mix)"
# Edo-G "On Dogz"
# The Epitome "Maximum Adrenaline"
# New Heavenly Blue "New Heavenly Blue"
# Calypso King & The Soul Investigators "Gator Funk Pt. 1"
# Bo Hansson "Waltz For Interbeings"
# R.A. The Rugged Man "Lessons"
# R.A. The Rugged Man "Stanley Kubrick"
# Raw Produce "Breathe Deep (J-Rawls remix)"
# Grayskul "Prom Quiz"
# Mr. Lif "Be Out"
# Big Pooh "The Strongest Man"
# NP-45 (Volume 1) "Metamorphosis"
# I Self Devine "I Want It All"
# Scavone "Revolution"
# O.C. "Time's Up (remix)"
# Q-Unique "It Ain't Safe No More"
# Big Noyd "Off The Wall"
# Channel Live "Mr. President"
# Detroit Experiment "The Way We Make Music"
# Sage Francis "Stuck"
# Aesop Rock "Fast Cars"
# De La Soul "The Grind Date"
# All Natural "It's O.K."
# SCUM (Insight & Ruckus) "Takin' No Shorts"
# Philadelphia Experiment "Calling All Demons"
# Freestyle "Carry On"
# Jazz Addixx "It's A Shame"
# Kola "Kinky Side"
# Mobb Deep "Win Or Lose"
# Little Brother "On And On"
# Gang Starr "Skillz"
# Skillz "Take It Back"
# Neek The Exotic "Money, Thugs"
# Sa-Ra "Double Dutch"
# Masta Ace "The Ways"

Immersion/ Walking (Mick Harris Remix)
jessica lauren/ uptown (red snapper remix)/ VA Music/ no nameboy
Edwyn Collins/ Superfical Cat (red snapper mix)/ I hear a new world
Meat Beat Manifesto/ Simulaera Pt2/ VA Survival 2000
Jack Danagers / Monsters Pursues/ Overcome/ Forbidden Planet
Jack Dangers/ Surroundings/ VA Sacred and Profane

Solar Fields/ Majestic Feeling
Lamb/ Lusty / Lamb
Tricky/ Hell is Around the corner/ Maxinque
Goldfrapp/ Utopia/ Felt Mountain
Massive Atack/ Butterfly Caught/ 100th window
Meat Beat Manifesto/ Genocide / armed audio warfare
T. Raumschmiere/ The Games not over (feat. Miss Kittin)/ Radio Blackout
Golden Boy with miss kittin "or"/ autopilot
Way out west/ UB DEVOID/ Intensfy
fortran 5/ Heart on the line (voodoo child mix) / Heart On the line single
The KLF / Magdura Eterrnal / Chill Out
The Orb / A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Brain that Rules..... / 12"
Zoe / Moonsister (The Orb's Lunar Dub) / Sunshine on a Rainy Day 12"
The Orb / A Apple Tree in My Backyard / VA- A New Chapter in Dub Vol.2
Matera/ Pure realism/ Same here

> Do most of these jocks aspire to be in commercial radio?

Some do, some don't....recently one of our Reggae DJ's landed a gig at a local hip-hop/urban station. Another group of hosts is aiming for their own talk show on commercial or satellite radio. In general, most of our student programmers seem to want some sort of radio/broadcasting career, while some of our longtime hosts (most of whom are former students) just continue their shows on WUSB...many of them are involved in the local music scene, however (including the publisher of a well known local music magazine and some musicians). Finally, our sports staff has also done board op work at local stations and even WABC for Yankee games.
>
> The station
> > does not impose a playlist on any on-air host.
> >
>
> They seem to impose it on themselves.
>
All depends on the DJ. Many of them start out with more "mainstream" music, but in most cases, their musical tastes expand as they hear non-mainstream artists they like (for every New Order or Beck album in our new CD rack, we have about 20 lesser known or obscure bands or artists....plus, we air multiple genres....jazz, hip-hop, classical, RPM, Electronic, heck even country.
 
College Radio "Glory"

I guess this all depends on what your definition of "glory" is.

Personally my definition of glory is being a measly 4000 watt directional college radio station in market 25 and having the commercial rock stations air bumpers targeted against us. Glory to me is not resigning myself to being just another jock doing just another show on just another block programmed college station in town (we have three others). Glory to me is giving these lesser known bands consistent airplay amongst the more well known artists and then watch them come to town and sell out their show and have the crowd go wild when they mention your station's name (Brandston, The Format, Pinback, etc...).

Your "Glory" days of college radio are more likely over not because of us "conformist kids" but instead because of file sharing, i-pods, and the internet. There are just way more mediums available to discover music these days then there were say 15-20 years ago.

So much of college radio around here is just plain unlistenable anyways. Too many kids claiming to be the "anti-clear channel" playing awful songs in-between 10 minutes of pointless on-air conversations with their friends with no sense of purpose or direction. You wanna be the anti-clear channel?? Program something worth listening to, market it effectively, and steal away listeners from those corporate giants.
 
> I remember in the 80's sitting in a basement with a
> transistor radio listening to a College Radio station. The
> DJ said he was going to play a whole hr of Robyn Hitchcock.
> I thought who the heck is RH? Boy did I learn quick! It
> was the most liberating hr of my life. I ran to the store
> the next day and bought all the Robyn Hitchcock I could
> find. This does'nt happen anymore. Todays College DJ plays
> Dave Mathews and hangs out at Coffee Shops. The sense of
> adventuire and discovery is gone!!! This generation is a
> boring bunch of conformist!!!!
>


What "college station" are your referring to? If it's WXPN or some other npr station, it doesn't count. Please inform us of what led you to the conclusion that college radio is dead. I beg to differ.
 
raydofan said:
> judging from this group, there is no real risk taking. I've heard some of these artists on K-Rock.> Without seeing the playlists broken down, it appears that this 'gem' is another factory-made> zirconia. For which CMJ is partially to blame.Wow, you're jaded. My kinda guy.But to sweeten the pot a bit: What sort of playlist might you be proposing? Got a sample hour we can see?-Sean Altrok Radio (7x24 at http://www.altrokradio.com) Altrok Radio's FM Showcase (Fridays, 10PM, WBJB, Brookdale Community College)
 
Dancerev889 said:
My old station WDBK-FM we were a dance format. It was cutting edge cause no one in the area was playing it. Also a lot of college stations are now streaming and you cant play hour long sets of artists because of new laws in place involving streaming live.
No more than 3 songs from any artist in a 3 hour periodOr 3 songs from the same album in the same period
 
wavelength said:
I remember in the 80's sitting in a basement with a transistor radio listening to a College Radio station. The DJ said he was going to play a whole hr of Robyn Hitchcock. I thought who the heck is RH? Boy did I learn quick! It was the most liberating hr of my life. I ran to the store the next day and bought all the Robyn Hitchcock I could find. This does'nt happen anymore. Todays College DJ plays Dave Mathews and hangs out at Coffee Shops. The sense of adventuire and discovery is gone!!! This generation is a boring bunch of conformist!!!!

you must be listening to the wrong college stations...KUOM in the Twin Cities sounds nothing like this (at least, no DMB from what I know). Check out their playlist(s) here.
 
Not to brag or get any attention, but I know the college station I volunteer at (KURE: www.kure885.org) have had some great DJ's coming and going. Since it is summer it has been kinda slow, but during the rest of the school year we have some pretty interesting mix.

I have a show called Dreaming In Stereo every Friday's from 8-10 PM and play alot of obscure to mainstream 80's new wave classics, as well as some prog rock and RPM music. I even create alot of my own production for my shows. So tune in if yu ever want to hear some interesting mix. I may not like certain songs on College radio, but atleast the DJ's are free to experiment and express themselves without to much limits. That is the beauty of College radio, and the way it should be. There are still some great new music out there... you just have to dig deep and look for them because unfortunatly you are not going to hear them on your local (wow, look at me! cashcow station).

My two cents,

-- RFGeek
 
Ben nailed it - college radio used to be the only way to hear new artists. Unfortunately, many young teens don't listen to the radio at all. They aren't driving cars yet, and that is the last bastion of radio. Once all radios have built-in access to iPods and satellite radio, the audience will begin to fade.

And to me, the real magic wasn't the jocks. It was the excitement of hearing new bands and new sounds. Now that you can get all the variety you want on the web, the genre has no second act.
 
dkocw said:
Dancerev889 said:
My old station Also a lot of college stations are now streaming and you cant play hour long sets of artists because of new laws in place involving streaming live.
No more than 3 songs from any artist in a 3 hour periodOr 3 songs from the same album in the same period

The recent Digital Millennium Copyright Act legislation specifies that no broadcast station that also streams on the web may exceed:

* Four songs by the same artist or group within a three hour period, and no more than three of those four may be played consecutively.

* Three songs from the same album or compilation, and no more than two of those three may be played consecutively.
 
I'll bet you that many stations don't pay enough attention to that rule, and they can usually get away with it as it's not something fully monitored.
 
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