The Houston Beauty Pageant: January 2016 Edition

[purpledevil]

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KROI's Boom has become more of a thud. Next stop, News 92 territory. End of the line, folks. Please exit to your right. Started off so well, but the music genre offered now is not what KROI started off with, and Boom has been falling ever since. What now? Only thing that has ever worked on 92-1 is gospel, but is an old audience better than no audience to Radio One? With The Box and Majic propping it up, I'm sure there's no urgency to make any sudden changes to Boom, but whew...what a fall.

 

[stan]

Time for a change at KLOL as well. A clone of KRTH or WCBS-FM would be appropriate.

 

[Mediafrog+]

http://ratings.****************/cgi-bin/rol.exe/arb033Only thing that has ever worked on 92-1 is gospel

Well, Classical had an 18 year run on 92.1. And KUHA will be changing to something else...

Okay, just kidding there.

I'm sure there's no urgency to make any sudden changes to Boom, but whew...what a fall.

Still would like to know how Boom is doing in its target demos. Might be in better shape than we think. And it's not having to employ 47 people like News92 had to do.

Anyone like to make any intelligent suggestions as to yet another new format for 92.1 that might actually work?

Elsewhere, don't look now, but Country Legends is very close to cracking a 3.0. Not bad for a rimshot.

 

[davideduardo]

Time for a change at KLOL as well. A clone of KRTH or WCBS-FM would be appropriate.

Based on one book?

KLOL is normally around 8th to 10th in 18-49, the place they consistently occupied all last year. And a profitable place it is as the #2 or #3 Spanish language station in the market.

If the numbers don't recover from this single off book in several more books, it would be time to do a perceptual study, a music test and check the direction of the station. While I'd love them to do that, the fact is that flushing the current $13 million in annual billings and starting from zero could cost them $15 to $20 million in revenue even if they replace the current successful format with a successful new one.

KRTH works in LA. WCBS-FM works in NYC. That is not a guarantee that it would work in Houston.

 

[purpledevil]

Anyone like to make any intelligent suggestions as to yet another new format for 92.1 that might actually work?

Elsewhere, don't look now, but Country Legends is very close to cracking a 3.0. Not bad for a rimshot.

I guess I should qualify that I meant that the only successful Radio One run format was Praise. K-Arts, of course, was truly the only successful format ever aired on the Seabrook stick.

Funny you mentioned Country Legends and 92-1 in the same breath. I've long been a proponent of Cox Radio picking this facility up. Look what they did to the long established Arrow, with the combined facilities of KHPT & KGLK. You could put The Bull out to pasture in 6 months if Cox were to actually make this move.

Of course, who's to say that CBS doesn't fire the first shot and take, say, KHMX classic country (or *gasp* move Hot to 96-5 & launch classic country where it began on 95-7) rendering the rimshot from Cleveland dead on arrival? That sure would stop the overlap between 95-7 & 96-5, and would give CBS the one-two country punch in this town they should've held onto all along. That's why I love this radio game, you just never know which domino is going to tip over first.


It's been 11 years, 3 months, 5 days, Stan. Let go, my friend. Just let go. Like it or not (and I didn't for a long time), the current version of Mega 101 is financially more successful on 101 KLOL today, than Rock 101 was in its 80s & 90s heyday. Going even further than that, Rock 101 had been run square into the ground by Clear Channel, while CBS keeps Mega up to date, adding new music constantly, and has a fresh, young, sound that has really hit its groove. The Reggaeton format was a joke, but its current incarnation is quite formidable. That's just the truth. I still miss it too, but life goes on. If anything changes direction, I'd look for it to be Latino Mix. Going up against KLOL head to head, it unfortunately doesn't stand a snowball's chance down yonder.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Time for a change at KLOL as well. A clone of KRTH or WCBS-FM would be appropriate.

Careful Stan! Any suggestion that oldies / REAL classic hits would work in Houston is met with hostility here. Oldies fans are obsolete, good for nothing but ridicule and re-education - in a world transitioning to all foreign radio stations. I am sure they will eventually provide us with re-education camps, where we will be force fed foreign language and brainwashed to get excited about foreign music - free of charge courtesy of the government. We will emerge more enlightened and actually get excited about all the foreign religious stations being programmed on a myriad of bad low power signals on translators and low power. We will be so enthusiastic we will use our DX skills exclusive to go after those weak signals.

 

[purpledevil]

Don't you have a DX thread to go hijack with tales of the greatest SuperTuner ever built, picking up stations clear across the globe, from the comfortable confines of 704 Hauser?

I don't ridicule oldies or classic hits, I ridicule you, whitey. You give the rest of us fair complexities a bad name.

 

[stan]

Careful Stan! Any suggestion that oldies / REAL classic hits would work in Houston is met with hostility here. Oldies fans are obsolete, good for nothing but ridicule and re-education - in a world transitioning to all foreign radio stations. I am sure they will eventually provide us with re-education camps, where we will be force fed foreign language and brainwashed to get excited about foreign music - free of charge courtesy of the government. We will emerge more enlightened and actually get excited about all the foreign religious stations being programmed on a myriad of bad low power signals on translators and low power. We will be so enthusiastic we will use our DX skills exclusive to go after those weak signals.

I find it interesting that in large cities in other parts of the nation, and even Texas, classic hits does well. Someone in Houston should get a clue.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Don't you have a DX thread to go hijack with tales of the greatest SuperTuner ever built, picking up stations clear across the globe, from the comfortable confines of 704 Hauser?

I don't ridicule oldies or classic hits, I ridicule you, whitey. You give the rest of us fair complexities a bad name.

You know - the thing about insults: they lose their effect after the umpteenth time. Racial epithets are beneath your dignity. I know you have a love for this foreign stuff, and that's fine. I suppose somebody out there listens, obviously somebody throws good money at all these piddling foreign language low powers and translators. Maybe it makes business sense to them. Maybe the religious folks think they are doing a good thing. But you talk about hijacking a thread - how about a whole board - which, lately, has been discussing nothing but the latest translator or low power moving into the area. Just - not - interesting stations to those of us who don't speak foreign. Any foreign language at all. In your defense - there has been little or no activity on the major stations in the market, so I guess some discussion of things going on in Houston is better than no discussion at all.

92.3, though, is a pretty interesting station because it plays good music. So does 99.9 when the wind blows in the right direction from Livingston. So does KCOL when there is a bit of skip. So - once again - I am forced into DX mode to find anything of interest at all. Some of the HD-2's are a lot more interesting to me than Spanish religious - and I suspect a lot of other folks because it is where we obsolete people go to get our oldies, smooth jazz, classical, Christian rock, and dance music fixes. And yes - I do think Oldies would be more successful here than the umpteenth foreign translator / low power playing foreign. Yes, there are a lot of Hispanics here. But there are a LOT more proportionally in San Antonio - yet they have a popular oldies station, even with less general population than we have. There have been INTELLIGENT comments here about how we don't have legacy calls here that would be associated with oldies like KONO in San Antonio. Perhaps it would be hard to start a new oldies station in Houston. Some of us would really like to at least see it tried, because it makes more sense than dividing up a market already saturated beyond all reason with Spanish this / Asian that. Does anybody really listen to all those translators / low powers? I sure don't see them show up in the ratings. Does having an audience really matter to the people putting them on? Or are they being put on just for the sake of putting them on - a Spanish religious org wants to feel good for example, that a few dozen people tune in. One thing is for sure - more than a few dozen people would tune in an oldies station, even if it was on a low power. Maybe they are just parking on frequencies hoping to make a profit by selling them later. I don't know. All these low powers and translators don't make sense to me, and I doubt anybody else except the people putting them on.

 

[purpledevil]

You would know, Bruce. You insult everyone's intelligence with the same old crap you've been spewing for years. Just fighting fire with fire, Bruce. You're right, it is beneath me, but I'd rather stoop down to your level than to allow you to ignorantly voice your all too common rants unchallenged. It's what happens when you call my deceased wife's people foreign, and have the audacity to say she and her people need to be shipped back, poste haste. Drop the whole victim thing, while you're at it, Bruce. You're the one that comes in here with guns blazing, and then wants to turn tail and run when someone caps back.

You suppose someone listens? Ha! Try a large share of someones. I post threads about Houston (or surrounding areas) licensed facilities. This is the Houston board, Dr. Carter, where would you prefer these newsworthy items to be placed? Sorry, Frank hasn't formulated a "foreign board" for your entertainment, nor your piece of mind. As long as they keep filing permits to move to this town, by gum, I'm going to keep alerting those that ARE interested around here. Regardless of format or language spoken. I gave the same consideration to Hum FM as I did to La Mejor, La Nueva, KCOH, or any other changes that have recently occurred, and I've made it perfectly clear how I feel about their offering. Regardless, it is airing on a facility that operates in this City, and therefore I mentioned it here...and I will continue to do so until I see fit (or until Frank throws me out on my ear).

I thank you for pointing out my comments as intelligent, though. I try my best, and I wish you'd attempt to partake in those discussions when afforded, rather than these. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are a not a stupid man. Quite a lot that the greenhorns around here could learn from you, Bruce. But who's going to take your experiences and wealth of knowledge seriously, when you continue to proudly parade around as that intolerant jerk you've built a solid reputation on?

What a waste...

 

[rbrucecarter5]

You would know, Bruce. You insult everyone's intelligence with the same old crap you've been spewing for years. Just fighting fire with fire, Bruce. You're right, it is beneath me, but I'd rather stoop down to your level than to allow you to ignorantly voice your all too common rants unchallenged. It's what happens when you call my deceased wife's people foreign, and have the audacity to say she and her people need to be shipped back, poste haste. Drop the whole victim thing, while you're at it, Bruce. You're the one that comes in here with guns blazing, and then wants to turn tail and run when someone caps back.

You suppose someone listens? Ha! Try a large share of someones. I post threads about Houston (or surrounding areas) licensed facilities. This is the Houston board, Dr. Carter, where would you prefer these newsworthy items to be placed? Sorry, Frank hasn't formulated a "foreign board" for your entertainment, nor your piece of mind. As long as they keep filing permits to move to this town, by gum, I'm going to keep alerting those that ARE interested around here. Regardless of format or language spoken. I gave the same consideration to Hum FM as I did to La Mejor, La Nueva, KCOH, or any other changes that have recently occurred, and I've made it perfectly clear how I feel about their offering. Regardless, it is airing on a facility that operates in this City, and therefore I mentioned it here...and I will continue to do so until I see fit (or until Frank throws me out on my ear).

I thank you for pointing out my comments as intelligent, though. I try my best, and I wish you'd attempt to partake in those discussions when afforded, rather than these. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are a not a stupid man. Quite a lot that the greenhorns around here could learn from you, Bruce. But who's going to take your experiences and wealth of knowledge seriously, when you continue to proudly parade around as that intolerant jerk you've built a solid reputation on?

What a waste...

Oh man - deceased? My sincere, heart felt condolences on your loss. I had no idea, the last time you said anything about her, it sounded as though she was living. I've known losses myself, and there isn't a day go by that I don't miss the ones who passed. That's tough, I'm so sorry to hear it.

I have NEVER, EVER posted here or anywhere else, for that matter, that hispanics need to be shipped back. I will leave that sentiment to some of the political candidates. If I ever posted that, do me a tremendous favor of finding my previous post and embarrassing me, here. PLEASE! I don't think I ever have, maybe you took something I posted out of context. That isn't how I feel, never was how I feel and never will be. Because I have known illegals, one of the finest men I know was once illegal, and I have employed illegals who are some of the best workers I have ever seen.

As for foreign language, I am not singling out Spanish language. I don't listen to stations programming any of them. As far as I know, the United States is not bilingual in the way Canada is with French. So Spanish IS a foreign language. Obviously it is legal for somebody to program a foreign language station in the United States. If people listen, fine. It doesn't obligate me to get excited about a station speaking a foreign language, whether it be Spanish or Chinese or Farsi or whatever. I won't be listening, I'm not in their target demographic. If that is insensitive and not politically correct to you, I apologize.

I hope you can tell by the tone of this post that I hold you, your opinions, and your feelings in highest regard - and my invitation to meet over a beer sometimes is always open. We have far more in common that we have differences. And you are right - all that has been happening in Houston lately is these translators and low powers.

 

[frankberry]

Enough!

Please stay on subject.

Thanks,
Frank

 

[Radio Insultant]

I noticed that too...could be one of two things. One...they suffered enough of a ratings loss that they didn't earn a .1 share. This happens several months a year for KGOW, but never happens for KFNC. So, it's probably two...either David Gow hasn't renewed his Nielsen contract yet for the Houston numbers or he's decided not to subscribe at all and sell advertising without the "ratings".

 

[Huff]

I noticed that too...could be one of two things. One...they suffered enough of a ratings loss that they didn't earn a .1 share. This happens several months a year for KGOW, but never happens for KFNC. So, it's probably two...either David Gow hasn't renewed his Nielsen contract yet for the Houston numbers or he's decided not to subscribe at all and sell advertising without the "ratings".

Both KGOW and KFNC showed in the ratings, but Gow has not renewed his contract and therefore the stations are not listed in the public release. (KGOW showed in all but 2 months in 2015)

 

[rbrucecarter5]

I notice that KYBJ has slipped off the chart - is the novelty of NGEN radio wearing off?

 

[Huff]

I notice that KYBJ has slipped off the chart - is the novelty of NGEN radio wearing off?

KYBJ hasn't registered since last June, and there wasn't that much there to begin with (it had never garnered more than a 0.2 share)

 

[rageradio]

Not true rbrucecarter. No hostility, just stating the facts. There's a reason why we don't already have this format. It's not a personal attack, sir