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"THE IMUS AFFAIR"

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Fired from his radio gig. Get ready for a new wave of restrictions from already panicked owners.

To quote Lafontaines Geigo ad..............THIS TIME, ITS FOR REAL!!!!

The sound on WFAN right now is that of a big ole radio land anenima.
 
bored-op said:
Fired from his radio gig. Get ready for a new wave of restrictions from already panicked owners.

To quote Lafontaines Geigo ad..............THIS TIME, ITS FOR REAL!!!!

The sound on WFAN right now is that of a big ole radio land anenima.
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Personally I thought it was kinda silly to have Imus' show on a Sports station anyway. Did his show actually have ratings? I know that in Tampa a station dropped Imus because the ratings for his show were anemic. Perhaps WFAN can now put a sports morning show on. Maybe Tony Bruno if that's available in NYC.
 
I do not condone his comments.

Regardless of what Msnbc or Cbs says, its was the advertising dollar that got him booted.

Who really cares what Don Imus thinks or says. He's a host of a politically charged talk show. Not a politician.

This is simply a media feedy frenzy because crazy diaper wearing astronaut lady and fake boobed druggie stripper billionaire wannabe were played out. HEY NEWS PEOPLE.....HOW BOUT SOME NEWS.....LIKE A WAR WE ARE ENGAGED IN!!His language is no different than in any rap video or song. Should'nt we all work on cleaning up our own backyards before we so self rightously pass judgement on the Clampets?

His punishment is getting real close to a 1st ammendment debate.
 
The Old saying be carefull what you wish for.....

Lets say a K-Town Soccer mom is rolling down Kingston Pike and her Teenage daughter puts on HOT and by mistake Hot plays the uncensored 50cent tune and the B word goes out on the airwaves...The soccer mom NOW can call Journal and tell the GM that PD Russ should be canned because she was offended and sez if he is not fired she will call all your advertisers and complain........

What happens if a 20 something DJ doing the Mix show opens up the mic....and oooooooooops

By the way Last Year when Bill Cosby told his fellow Black to stop the demeaning stuff in rap etc......Sharpton was upset with Cosby

I just heard a news report that Snoop Dog said that it is ok to Call women Hoes in his raps BUT not ok for Imus................and that is the entire problem

The Beat Goes On....God Bless America
 
This whole Imus-gate thing is another witch hunt.

I just heard a well spoken man of color call those 10 Rutgers ladies "children".

Please.

When do we sack up and learn life's lessons? They are not children. They are well spoken young women who should be completly high on thier performance, regardless of what a ******bag radio guy says about them. Those women are beyond that. They, unfortunatly, were sucked into the big media machine. Does Imus have that much weight in this country. I really really doubt it. I saw a clip of him a few minutes ago and he really looks like a miserable old fUk. And someone thinks he has influence?

Please.

I'm not an Imus fan (as you can tell) but don't start telling me what I can and can't say. But I do think wave number two is on its way for us.
 
Being an owner, I personally have mixed feelings when I consider what I'd do if one of my employees made a similar remark on the air. However, my operations are vastly different from the outlets where Imus air. He's a shock jock, and people frankly expect him to say shocking things. Why get so angry when you knew at the outset that he is liable to say anything at any time. It's not like he has a lily-white record, and it isn't as if he has an audience filled with children. Rather, any responsible parent wouldn't let their kids listen to him anyway. To me, his comment is nowhere near as bad as even the clean version of "Moneymaker" in terms of crudeness. And yet, nobody pulls advertising from stations which play Ludacris. Perhaps the advertisers who are pitching a fit should consider that the listeners (who hear their ads and buy their stuff) listen to Imus simply because he makes over-the-top statements. Are they saying, in pulling their ads, that they do not want to sell their products to people who enjoy Imus? I doubt it. Even if a listener said he agreed completely with the remarks Imus made on the air, GM would still sell a car to said listener.

What I have a HUGE problem with is the enormous double standard presented by this entire scenario. Let's assume our Lady Vols had in fact lost, rather than Rutgers. Chances are, Imus could have called the Lady Vols "white-trash imbread rednecks". This, of course, would be okay, because he'd be demeaning white people. That's perfectly acceptable in our society. Criticize white people all you want, but do not dare insult a minority.

If the Rutgers players can't handle an offhand comment by a shock jock, then I sincerely doubt they are ready for the rigors of the real world they'll be thrust into in a few years when they graduate. Perhaps, in reality though, these young ladies might even use the same words as Imus when they tease each other in the locker room. I think it is sad that Sharpton and others truly feel that people have a right to not be offended. So, let's all enjoy our freedom of speech, provided that speech doesn't offend anyone. *rolls eyes*

Unfortunately, I'm afraid this will make owners even LESS likely to create compelling programming, and giving the competition (satellite, iPod, etc.) an even greater competitive edge. Ugh.
 
You are exactly right!

I keep hearing he picked on these girls.

He did not do a bit and singled out these girls it was a spur of the moment blurt....ooooooops

He Why aren't whites asking for Tom Joyner who spews tons of hate towards whites to be fired?
 
I have never been a fan of Don Imus. The guy is highly overrated. For one thing, he mumbles. For another, he is rude and abrasive. That said, I think this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. Why does this get him fired when he's been saying stuff worse than this for decades? Don't get me wrong...I disagree with his comments and think they were wrong. But where was the outrage when he has said things about other ethnic groups and others, such as Christians?

I will tell you why. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton saw an opportunity to get their names on the news again and jumped all over Imus. Again don't misunderstand me. I don't condone racism, but guess what? It's the price of having the right to free speech. Imus has the right to his opinion, just as I have the right to mine. If you don't like him, don't listen. I don't.

I guess I have never understood jumping on a radio show host for his comments and show content (i.e. Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh, Opie and Anthony, Imus, etc.). All it does is give them more attention and, often, more listeners. People love to slow down for the car crash on the Interstate. When some "shock jock" gets his name in the paper for some racist, sexist or other inappropriate remark, there's a good chance people are going to listen, just to hear them make the next shocking comment. I am a strong believer in the theory that there's no such thing as "bad publicity". It's just like what you're mom told you when you were growing up about that kid who does stuff just to get under your skin. The more you pay attention to him, the more he's gonna keep it up. When some stupid radio personality makes a inappropriate comment, just ignore it.

Imus will end up on his feet, probably on Sirius, where he can get away with murder. Let's just move on. And if you don't like it, flip it to something else!
 
bobeeboxer said:
The Old saying be carefull what you wish for.....

Lets say a K-Town Soccer mom is rolling down Kingston Pike and her Teenage daughter puts on HOT and by mistake Hot plays the uncensored 50cent tune and the B word goes out on the airwaves...The soccer mom NOW can call Journal and tell the GM that PD Russ should be canned because she was offended and sez if he is not fired she will call all your advertisers and complain........
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In this example I would deserve to be disciplined since I load the music in. It would be my responsiblity if an explicit lryic went out on the air.
 
I'm waiting to see if CBS radio, by dumping Imus for his "morally reprehensible" comments, plan to "clean up" some of the language on thier rhythmic and CHR outlets I guess the Nappy Roots will now have no shot at having a hit.

I did hear Sharpton or Jackson (can't recall which) say that the rap music being put out is more the responsibility of the heads of the record companies not the artists themselves. What a crock.

I'm just guessing, but I bet some of the C.d.'s in the Rutgers girls b-ball teams personal vehicles have lyrics much worse than anything Imus could've said.
 
bobeeboxer said:
The Old saying be carefull what you wish for.....

Lets say a K-Town Soccer mom is rolling down Kingston Pike and her Teenage daughter puts on HOT and by mistake Hot plays the uncensored 50cent tune and the B word goes out on the airwaves...The soccer mom NOW can call Journal and tell the GM that PD Russ should be canned because she was offended and sez if he is not fired she will call all your advertisers and complain........
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hasn't something almost exactly like that happened before with their morning show (for wwst)?
 
bored-op said:
I'm waiting to see if CBS radio, by dumping Imus for his "morally reprehensible" comments, plan to "clean up" some of the language on thier rhythmic and CHR outlets I guess the Nappy Roots will now have no shot at having a hit.

I did hear Sharpton or Jackson (can't recall which) say that the rap music being put out is more the responsibility of the heads of the record companies not the artists themselves. What a crock.

I'm just guessing, but I bet some of the C.d.'s in the Rutgers girls b-ball teams personal vehicles have lyrics much worse than anything Imus could've said.
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From All Access:

HIP-HOP SUMMIT ACTION NETWORK Chairman RUSSELL SIMMONS and Pres. DR. BENJAMIN CHAVIS released a statement today addressing hip-hop and DON IMUS' remarks.

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[EDIT-post truncated because originating material is copyprotected. Unauthorized use of copyrighted content is in violation of Radio-Info's TOS.]
 
Mr. Simons Basicly said

It is OK for Rappers to call their Women Whores etc.... because they are raping about what they see and live.

I am not black...so please help me out here.

Is Russel saying that Black men treat women in an offensive way and it is OK to get on the air waves and tell the whole world yep our women are whores and B's etc

I heard one rapper say we need to stick by IMUS because we should all have the right to call women whores if we want.

I ask the Black comunity What would Martin Luther King say about this?

Would he be on Larry King Saying It is ok for Me Martin Luther King to call
our Black women Ho's but not for you Larry OR would he say it is wrong
for all to say it HOWEVER we as Americans have the right to free speech
If you do not like what IMUS said do not listen to him, do not buy from his advertisers........

In this case the people screaming the loudest DO NOT listen to IMUS and without the internet would NEVER had heard it.

I believe that over the years that Sharpton and Jackson have been on Imus's show when it suited their agenda and did not care what he had said in the past.....

Sharpton & Jackson should call for the Boycot of ALL offensive Hip Hop Music and demand that the FCC fine any and all TV/Radio stations that air any non clean version of any song.

We know from his words of 19 years ago that he the REV, Jackson HATES Jews...but thats ok

And Now a possible president of the U.S Mr. Obama is against Freedom of Speech.....

GOD BLESS AMERICA HOME OF THE BRAVE and land of the Free EXCEPT
if you say anything that might be considered offensive to someone...whats next OH hey you are Jewish well we as Muslems are offended and the Jewish religion should be banned...........

GOD gave us the Freedom to choose........America gives US the ability to be FREE within the Laws of the Land.......If I do not like what I am hearing or seeing I flip to another station.

I could go on but.....The Geico Ad with The caveman is on BUH BYE
 
Those are some good points, bobee...

A great example of free speech and how even when it's offensive, it's still protected is the case of Falwell and Flynt. Ol' Lar' decided to make some really bad fake interview with Falwell in his Hustler magazine that said he had "relations" with his mom in an outhouse. The case went to the Supreme Court where Larry Flynt won. Was it bad? Yeah, but he had the right to say it.
I don't like what Imus said, but I defend his right to say it! Whatever happened to the right to free speech guaranteed in the Bill of Rights?
This country has become a bunch of panty-waisted crybabies who can't take it, unless it suits their agenda.

Sorry, the libertarian in me is taking over and I can't help it...
 
TightwadSquarepants said:
Whatever happened to the right to free speech guaranteed in the Bill of Rights?
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There is no "right to free speech" and Imus learned that well. I think you're referring to the first ammendment and the language that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Neither Congress, nor the feds fired Imus. His employers did. Evidently CBS decided he can say what he wants, just not into one of the microphones that they own. And Evidently NBC decided he can say what he wants, just not on their network and it's affiliates.

Perhaps Imus forgot that someone had the right to fire him. He wasn't self employed.
 
Russ makes a valid point. As I said in an earlier post, the FCC has remained silent on this.

But it is Sharpton and Jackson who have used this to soapbox and say that this incident needs to be a launch pad to further discussion of what is and is and is not acceptable, not only on the air but in our everyday communication. But this begs the question, if Imus saying that boneheaded stuff on the air is a big issue, what about all the other talk shows, like Rush (calling Obama a "halfrican american") and music stations that play offensive material?

I've watched this closely since its beginning. Here's my take: If your black, you can call women whatever you want. (as long as its called "artistic") If your white, your a racist. Sharpton and Jackson should get past the color issue. I don't see things along color lines. Imus should not have said it, and should have been suspended, not fired. The N word, B word, hoes and so on is offensive to most, no matter what color mouth they are coming out of. It only becomes a question of black and white or men and women when it gets pushed that direction. There are white racists and there are black racists, but fortunatly they are extremes in our society.

MSNBC and CBS sacked Imus because the advertisers threatened to pull, not because of the high and mighty BS they were trying to spew to calm the black community.

The soapbox grandstanding IMHO, is more racially dividing that the Imus comment itself. And I actually like Sharpton.....Jackson, not in the least.
 
A couple of things.

First of all, Imus did have a following and was very influential. I have seen where he has 2.5 million listeners and 61 affiliates. The show supposedly took in $20 million.

But now I feel the radio execs have a responsibility to examine hip-hop lyrics. The culture of the hip-hop world has created a very, very degrading image of women.

Furthermore, when they do it, the hip-hop world champions such speech as "keeping it real."

In the 80s much of rock was viewed as being, among other things, satanic. We can debate whether or not the tag was deserved, but ultimately what happened was the bands of the era stopped getting airplay.

If the radio execs feel Imus is so inappropriate, then they should also show similar responsibility with the music they play. Gangsta rap can be replaced easily enough, just as the profitable bands of the 80s were.

Final note. I'm going to guess if Imus re-emerges he does NOT go on satellite. The nature of his show is such that he gets on prominent politicians and newsmakers, and I can't see him getting those type of guests on satellite with its limited audience.

Case in point- Howard Stern used to get all kinds of guests from the entertainment industry. The past week on his show his prominent guests were two adult models, Richard Simmons, and a writer for the National Enquirer.
 
If the problem is the message......why shoot the messenger?

Because he was a 60 something year old white man using urban slang.

If managment is gonna take the high road at thier properties, then they should take it at all of them.
 
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