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The Lost Potential of Jack

With rumors flying about an impending format change at 99.7 WSKO-FM, I hope to see a Jack-type format at that frequency. With that said, the Jack-style format, which has made radio more interesting in markets across the country, has much potential that will likely remain untapped.

Prior to the advent of the I-Pod, conventional thinking in radio indicated that formats should be tight, for broad-based playlists would alientate subsets of each station's most desirable demographics. For example, over the years, one of the most common critiques of WHJY on this forum was that the older male demographic would be aliented by too much focus on Alternative Rock. However, as many industry observers have indicated, the advent of Jack directly coincided with the advent of the I-Pod.

The I-Pod allows the listener to program music as he/she sees fit. The music consumer and I-Pod enthusiast, contrary to prior conventional radio industry thought, liked the ability to program and thus listen to a wide variety of music on his/her I-Pod. Radio stations, facing competition from the I-Pod, increased their variety. On average, Jack stations have quadruple the playlist of typical radio stations. However, while many Jack-style stations proclaim that they will play "whatever" or "anything," this is simply not the case.

Most Jack stations are simply traditional-to-Hot AC stations that play wide varieties. One question I have: Why is the Jack format limited to the AC realm? Would a Jack-style format work with other formats? For example, would a CHR/Pop/Rhythmic/Alternative Rock Jack-hybrid format work? Many in the younger demographics listen to BOTH Rhythmic and Alternative music.

Because Jack formats have been limited to the realm of AC, I think that Jack's potential has not been realized. While I love the increased variety of the Jack stations that exist - and indeed I hope to hear it on 99.7 instead of the current third signal in the market that is a Sports station - I would love to see Jack hit other formats. Contrary to what others on many boards think, Jack is here to stay. More and more markets have a Jack station, and the demise of WCBS is further proof that the powers that be in the radio industry also believe it is more than a passing fad in radio.

What do you all think?
 
B101 getting the edge on Jack this week.

> With rumors flying about an impending format change at 99.7
> WSKO-FM, I hope to see a Jack-type format at that frequency.
> With that said, the Jack-style format, which has made radio
> more interesting in markets across the country, has much
> potential that will likely remain untapped.
>
> Prior to the advent of the I-Pod, conventional thinking in
> radio indicated that formats should be tight, for
> broad-based playlists would alientate subsets of each
> station's most desirable demographics. For example, over
> the years, one of the most common critiques of WHJY on this
> forum was that the older male demographic would be aliented
> by too much focus on Alternative Rock. However, as many
> industry observers have indicated, the advent of Jack
> directly coincided with the advent of the I-Pod.
>
> The I-Pod allows the listener to program music as he/she
> sees fit. The music consumer and I-Pod enthusiast, contrary
> to prior conventional radio industry thought, liked the
> ability to program and thus listen to a wide variety of
> music on his/her I-Pod. Radio stations, facing competition
> from the I-Pod, increased their variety. On average, Jack
> stations have quadruple the playlist of typical radio
> stations. However, while many Jack-style stations proclaim
> that they will play "whatever" or "anything," this is simply
> not the case.
>
> Most Jack stations are simply traditional-to-Hot AC stations
> that play wide varieties. One question I have: Why is the
> Jack format limited to the AC realm? Would a Jack-style
> format work with other formats? For example, would a
> CHR/Pop/Rhythmic/Alternative Rock Jack-hybrid format work?
> Many in the younger demographics listen to BOTH Rhythmic and
> Alternative music.
>
> Because Jack formats have been limited to the realm of AC, I
> think that Jack's potential has not been realized. While I
> love the increased variety of the Jack stations that exist -
> and indeed I hope to hear it on 99.7 instead of the current
> third signal in the market that is a Sports station - I
> would love to see Jack hit other formats. Contrary to what
> others on many boards think, Jack is here to stay. More and
> more markets have a Jack station, and the demise of WCBS is
> further proof that the powers that be in the radio industry
> also believe it is more than a passing fad in radio.
>
> What do you all think?
> >
>
The threat of some sort of AC/classic rock or Classic hit's station is out there.
I noticed B101 this week has added alot of 80's.I been hearing alot of Gennisis and John Cougar sprinkled in so maybe they are trying to get the edge before the 99.7 flip.

I think they are trying to get an edge without making a big deal of it.
 
> Most Jack stations are simply traditional-to-Hot AC stations
> that play wide varieties. One question I have: Why is the
> Jack format limited to the AC realm? Would a Jack-style
> format work with other formats? For example, would a
> CHR/Pop/Rhythmic/Alternative Rock Jack-hybrid format work?
> Many in the younger demographics listen to BOTH Rhythmic and
> Alternative music.

The younger you are the more irrevelant radio is.I don't believe a format hybrid Jack format aimed at younger demographics will pull the ones who left radio back in.Let's face it.Even the Ipod download crowd does listen to some radio.

I could foresee 99.7 going with a Jack type format only because one format element is that there is no live staff and whatever the format will be I believe there will be no staff.That also means familiar music rather than a format that plays currents since there is no song identification.
 
I could not agree more with your evaluation of Citadel's plans for 99.7. The bottom line is most important to Citadel, and whichever format has the lowest overhead is probably the one that will be heard on 99.7 FM. And Citadel should learn its lesson; they probably lose more money in the long run by constanly changing formats rather than investing money into a new format. I-195 is littered with the bodies of failed Citadel format changes.
 
Re: B101 getting the edge on Jack this week.

The format hole is also there for a "real" Oldies station, focusing on the 50s-early 70s. Wouldn't that be something if 99.7 FM flipped to such a station. There are two jocks out there that could perfectly anchor such a station - Big John and (if he could be lured back from Worcester) Bruce Palmer.
 
Re: B101 getting the edge on Jack this week.

> The format hole is also there for a "real" Oldies station,
> focusing on the 50s-early 70s. Wouldn't that be something
> if 99.7 FM flipped to such a station. There are two jocks
> out there that could perfectly anchor such a station - Big
> John and (if he could be lured back from Worcester) Bruce
> Palmer.

Merge the CHR-pop formats of 92.3 & 107.1 to 99.7, launch a "Bob" on 92.3 and a classic rocker on 107.1 ala WKKB.
 
Re: B101 getting the edge on Jack this week.

> > The format hole is also there for a "real" Oldies station,
>
> > focusing on the 50s-early 70s. Wouldn't that be something
>
> > if 99.7 FM flipped to such a station. There are two jocks
>
> > out there that could perfectly anchor such a station - Big
>
> > John and (if he could be lured back from Worcester) Bruce
> > Palmer.
>
> Merge the CHR-pop formats of 92.3 & 107.1 to 99.7, launch a
> "Bob" on 92.3 and a classic rocker on 107.1 ala WKKB.
>

Do you have any idea how well 92.3 and 107.1 do in the ratings, or how their signals cover? Oh, and WKKB was rock, not classic rock.
 
Dream oldies........

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It's how you use it.</P>
 
Re: B101 getting the edge on Jack this week.

> Do you have any idea how well 92.3 and 107.1 do in the
> ratings, or how their signals cover? Oh, and WKKB was rock,
> not classic rock.

WKKB play any currents?
 
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