While the blood continues to spray out from Citadel, Lou Dobbs launched his show this week, calling himself "Mr. Independent" and painting his show as a moderate one. His show debuted in most of the major markets including NY, LA, Chicago, though he ended up on fourth-tier talkers in those places, though in San Francisco he airs of Michael Savage flagship KNEW. Anyone hear the show yet and have any thoughts?
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The Lou Dobbs Show
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Don62
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I haven't heard the radio show yet, but I sure like this host.
He's independent, and goes after both parties.
His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy. None of this "free trade benefits all" nonsense that academics and elites ( who never have their jobs at risk ) spout off.
I'm sure he doesn't care for John McCain's condescending "those jobs (Ohio, Michigan) are never coming back" attitude. Why aren't they returning? Why were they sold out by the likes of career politicos like McCain to foreign interests in the first place?
A station I came across this week whilst driving through southern and central Ga. announced it was carrying the show live.
Should be a good listen.
He's independent, and goes after both parties.
His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy. None of this "free trade benefits all" nonsense that academics and elites ( who never have their jobs at risk ) spout off.
I'm sure he doesn't care for John McCain's condescending "those jobs (Ohio, Michigan) are never coming back" attitude. Why aren't they returning? Why were they sold out by the likes of career politicos like McCain to foreign interests in the first place?
A station I came across this week whilst driving through southern and central Ga. announced it was carrying the show live.
Should be a good listen.
What I hear is a lot more of the same uninteresting, pandering faux-populist crap (if this guy is a "Maverick," then I'm a Saudi oil sheik). Just what we need - another snooze-inducing drone to displace a few more local hosts.
If you believe Dobbs's schtick is anything but pandering and posturing for the great unwashed, then I have a lovely bridge for sale, right on the fringes of Brooklyn...
Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy.
If you believe Dobbs's schtick is anything but pandering and posturing for the great unwashed, then I have a lovely bridge for sale, right on the fringes of Brooklyn...
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MartyandElaine
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dustintv said:His show debuted in most of the major markets including NY, LA, Chicago,
LOL... that is the biggest joke I have heard today. Major markets indeed. His "New York" affiliate is WJGK 1200 in Ulster County which can't be heard within 50 miles of NYC. His "Portland" affiliate KBNP is 100 miles away from the city of Portland.
His "LA" affiliate is KGIL-AM which is 1260 on the am dial and cannot be heard outside the transmitter parking lot.
His "San Diego" affiliate is XSUR out of Tijuana!!
When are the trades going to stop printing Press Release claims of "Major Market Clears" when the sad truth is that these are actually TINY 0-rated DMA stations?
Lou Dobbs Show is DOA. He will be gone in a year. Mark it.
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mred
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imported from mexico? a cheap mexican import show..see we should dump NAFTA
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Don62
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Yep. Another mind-numbed robot, repeating what Dobbs' critics say ad nauseum.jimwalsh2001 said:What I hear is a lot more of the same uninteresting, pandering faux-populist crap (if this guy is a "Maverick," then I'm a Saudi oil sheik). Just what we need - another snooze-inducing drone to displace a few more local hosts.
Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy.
If you believe Dobbs's schtick is anything but pandering and posturing for the great unwashed, then I have a lovely bridge for sale, right on the fringes of Brooklyn...
Can't you clowns come up with any legitimate criticism?
Sure. Dobbs' is less legitimate or real than El Rushbo or that turkey that follows him in the p.m.
If you believer Rush and Sean "Dummy" Hannity say their schtick with a straight face, then you have likely just bought a bridge to nowhere.
I don't want to knock Lou because of all the talking heads on cable I would have to say he's at least better than most of them.
I agree wholeheartedly with the station issue. They are listing AM1420 out of Michigan City, Indiana as a CHICAGO station. This
station is run by a great guy so I'm not saying anything bad about the station, it is from when I've heard a good local station with
good local ownership. It is run a hell of a lot better than his former partners station WJOB in Hammond, Indiana. The problem is
the station barely reaches the Illinois border let alone the metro Chicago area. The signal is decent to about Gary, Indiana. I don't
consider that "being on in Chicago."
I agree wholeheartedly with the station issue. They are listing AM1420 out of Michigan City, Indiana as a CHICAGO station. This
station is run by a great guy so I'm not saying anything bad about the station, it is from when I've heard a good local station with
good local ownership. It is run a hell of a lot better than his former partners station WJOB in Hammond, Indiana. The problem is
the station barely reaches the Illinois border let alone the metro Chicago area. The signal is decent to about Gary, Indiana. I don't
consider that "being on in Chicago."
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WTUX
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Lou has been known to make dumb career moves. Like when he left CNN to start up a web based "space exploration/UFO" gig. That sure didn't last long!
But the fact in is strating out on 3rd and 4th tier stations is not really an issue. Rush started out much the same way. A hand full of big stations, but the show was pandered to nearly everybody. The station of which I was OM/PM in the early 90's was asked to take him for our market. 1kw, tight pattern, didn't really cover the city our market was in! But he got on hundreds of suburban outlets until his popularity forced the big city blow touchers to carry him.
Lou is not that big a commodity at this point. But his populus message may work on radio. As he catches on, he'll be on the top dogs in the major markets.
It takes time, folks.
But the fact in is strating out on 3rd and 4th tier stations is not really an issue. Rush started out much the same way. A hand full of big stations, but the show was pandered to nearly everybody. The station of which I was OM/PM in the early 90's was asked to take him for our market. 1kw, tight pattern, didn't really cover the city our market was in! But he got on hundreds of suburban outlets until his popularity forced the big city blow touchers to carry him.
Lou is not that big a commodity at this point. But his populus message may work on radio. As he catches on, he'll be on the top dogs in the major markets.
It takes time, folks.
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flashback
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who else on an national levil speaks out against both illegal imigration and outsourceing?I am not A big fan of lou dobbs but he makes generally makes more sense then most people who do his kind of show.
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jaymarvin
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Thing that cracks me up about Dobbs is one of his stations is in Mexico XSUR! He's always after the Mexican government! Of course this is another case of putting on a big name instead of someone who knows how to do good radio!
Don62 said:Yep. Another mind-numbed robot, repeating what Dobbs' critics say ad nauseum.jimwalsh2001 said:What I hear is a lot more of the same uninteresting, pandering faux-populist crap (if this guy is a "Maverick," then I'm a Saudi oil sheik). Just what we need - another snooze-inducing drone to displace a few more local hosts.
Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy.
If you believe Dobbs's schtick is anything but pandering and posturing for the great unwashed, then I have a lovely bridge for sale, right on the fringes of Brooklyn...
Can't you clowns come up with any legitimate criticism?
Sure. Dobbs' is less legitimate or real than El Rushbo or that turkey that follows him in the p.m.
If you believer Rush and Sean "Dummy" Hannity say their schtick with a straight face, then you have likely just bought a bridge to nowhere.
Dobbs is boring. That's legit enough for me.
And why do you assume I'm a diehard Rush/Hannity fan? I'm not. They still have their moments (and I certainly respect them for what they have done professionally), but for me as a listener, the bloom is off the rose for all these guys.
I feel like a broken record (as in vinyl - any pre-McLuhanites out there who remember vinyl?)...it's not about politics; it's about the ability to entertain. Sure Dobbs is good at getting a rise out of people. That, however is a cheap quality. It's how well you maintain after the shock wears off that tells the story...
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jaymarvin
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Great point Jim! I'll bet "The Man Of The People" is gone in a year becuase he can't get enough stations.
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Don62
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Funny how you can say the same thing about El Rushbo and his one-trick pony schtick, which is all it is.jimwalsh2001 said:it's not about politics; it's about the ability to entertain. Sure Dobbs is good at getting a rise out of people. That, however is a cheap quality. It's how well you maintain after the shock wears off that tells the story...
Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy. None of this "free trade benefits all" nonsense that academics and elites ( who never have their jobs at risk ) spout off.
"Free trade is just a bunch of nonsense," he said, typing on a keyboard made in Taiwan, using a USB interface manufactured in Korea, controlling a CPU made in Taiwan, inside a computer enclosure from China, viewed on an LCD made in Japan, etc, etc....
We now return you to your discussion of Lou Dobbs, already in progress.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
Don62 said:Funny how you can say the same thing about El Rushbo and his one-trick pony schtick, which is all it is.jimwalsh2001 said:it's not about politics; it's about the ability to entertain. Sure Dobbs is good at getting a rise out of people. That, however is a cheap quality. It's how well you maintain after the shock wears off that tells the story...
No argument here - El Rushbo has been coasting for years...
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flashback
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BiggusPrimus said:Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy. None of this "free trade benefits all" nonsense that academics and elites ( who never have their jobs at risk ) spout off.
"Free trade is just a bunch of nonsense," he said, typing on a keyboard made in Taiwan, using a USB interface manufactured in Korea, controlling a CPU made in Taiwan, inside a computer enclosure from China, viewed on an LCD made in Japan, etc, etc....
We now return you to your discussion of Lou Dobbs, already in progress.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
to be fair, where can you buy that equipment that is made in america.
flashback said:BiggusPrimus said:Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy. None of this "free trade benefits all" nonsense that academics and elites ( who never have their jobs at risk ) spout off.
"Free trade is just a bunch of nonsense," he said, typing on a keyboard made in Taiwan, using a USB interface manufactured in Korea, controlling a CPU made in Taiwan, inside a computer enclosure from China, viewed on an LCD made in Japan, etc, etc....
We now return you to your discussion of Lou Dobbs, already in progress.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
to be fair, where can you buy that equipment that is made in america.
I believe DEC and Via both make chipsets here in the US, but it's far cheaper and more efficient to...tada...take advantage of the benefits of free trade.
To keep this discussion even vaguely on-topic- it's just a matter of time until the efficiencies of free trade start applying to the radio industry. This will be a nightmare for broadcast companies and paradise for broadcasters.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
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Don62
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Yeah. It would sure be interesting to see how die-hard free traders react when their jobs are shipped overseas.BiggusPrimus said:flashback said:BiggusPrimus said:Don62 said:His interest appears to be what's best for the American worker and the American economy. None of this "free trade benefits all" nonsense that academics and elites ( who never have their jobs at risk ) spout off.
"Free trade is just a bunch of nonsense," he said, typing on a keyboard made in Taiwan, using a USB interface manufactured in Korea, controlling a CPU made in Taiwan, inside a computer enclosure from China, viewed on an LCD made in Japan, etc, etc....
We now return you to your discussion of Lou Dobbs, already in progress.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
to be fair, where can you buy that equipment that is made in america.
I believe DEC and Via both make chipsets here in the US, but it's far cheaper and more efficient to...tada...take advantage of the benefits of free trade.
To keep this discussion even vaguely on-topic- it's just a matter of time until the efficiencies of free trade start applying to the radio industry. This will be a nightmare for broadcast companies and paradise for broadcasters.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
It's all good and everything until you lose your touted spot.
Pretty soon there won't be any jobs left in this country for the lower classes, except for cleaning toilets, changing oil, delivering fast-food.
Don62 said:Yeah. It would sure be interesting to see how die-hard free traders react when their jobs are shipped overseas.
It's all good and everything until you lose your touted spot.
It's highly unlikely my particular brand of skilled labor can ever be shipped overseas, but if it is I'll just adapt. That's evolution in action, baby!
From our industry's point of view free trade is both a blessing and a curse. Right now the conglomerates think it's great because the ever falling cost of computer power and bandwidth means they can cut costs (with automation and networking) and generate extra revenue (from webcasting and interactive media) at the same time. That all changes once wireless broadband hits a significant percentage of the country and anyone can launch a radio station.
Or did you really think Google was interested in radio because they could make so much money with the existing broadcast model?
Pretty soon there won't be any jobs left in this country for the lower classes, except for cleaning toilets, changing oil, delivering fast-food.
You say this like it's a bad thing.
Your friend forever,
Biggus
Don62 said:Yeah. It would sure be interesting to see how die-hard free traders react when their jobs are shipped overseas.
It's all good and everything until you lose your touted spot.
OK, Dude...we get it. You think outsourcing is bad.
Fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
Can we get back to radio?
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