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The missing ingredient in Dance for Radio

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The missing ingredient ,in dance records, where conventional radio is concerned,if you want to reach that mainstream massive audience which could resurrect dance as we know it, is records that are about something,records by an identifiable person,and most importantly, records that are sassy,records with attitude,records that make people smile and nod their heads in agreement.
Most current hip hop and pop rock(even country) is sassy and attitude driven; clearly,America loves that,as they love Howard Stern,and talk radio.

I like to think that currently, I'm makings those type of records for dance; the question is,is dance radio ready to make that(potentially life saving) leap to embrace non-diva,non 'sing-song' records? It's a very interesting period of time to be involved in dance in America,and I'm interested in EVERYONE's opinions, positive or negative, however sassy or attitude driven they may be!
 
> The missing ingredient ,in dance records, where conventional
> radio is concerned,if you want to reach that mainstream
> massive audience which could resurrect dance as we know it,
> is records that are about something,records by an
> identifiable person,and most importantly, records that are
> sassy,records with attitude,records that make people smile
> and nod their heads in agreement.
> Most current hip hop and pop rock(even country) is sassy and
> attitude driven; clearly,America loves that,as they love
> Howard Stern,and talk radio.
>
> I like to think that currently, I'm makings those type of
> records for dance; the question is,is dance radio ready to
> make that(potentially life saving) leap to embrace
> non-diva,non 'sing-song' records? It's a very interesting
> period of time to be involved in dance in America,and I'm
> interested in EVERYONE's opinions, positive or negative,
> however sassy or attitude driven they may be!
>

I'm going to do another post on this, and this is me thinking left field again, but do you suppose it's time for Hardcore/Happy Hardcore to take the frontline in dance music in the US?

Granted, Happy Hardcore has been here for quite a while. Aluna "All Of My Life" (I think that's the title) is that type of track. Granted, in the 80's and 90's there have been so many sub-genres out there (house, techno, trance, Euro, drum and bass) but nothing inventive (at least that I know of anyway) in this decade. Dance music has ALWAYS been about reinvention. Maybe Happy Hardcore's time is now?

Like I said, another left field thinking from me! LOL

TONY SANTIAGO
 
> > The missing ingredient ,in dance records, where
> conventional
> > radio is concerned,if you want to reach that mainstream
> > massive audience which could resurrect dance as we know
> it,
> > is records that are about something,records by an
> > identifiable person,and most importantly, records that are
>
> > sassy,records with attitude,records that make people smile
>
> > and nod their heads in agreement.
> > Most current hip hop and pop rock(even country) is sassy
> and
> > attitude driven; clearly,America loves that,as they love
> > Howard Stern,and talk radio.
> >
> > I like to think that currently, I'm makings those type of
> > records for dance; the question is,is dance radio ready to
>
> > make that(potentially life saving) leap to embrace
> > non-diva,non 'sing-song' records? It's a very interesting
> > period of time to be involved in dance in America,and I'm
> > interested in EVERYONE's opinions, positive or negative,
> > however sassy or attitude driven they may be!
> >
>
> I'm going to do another post on this, and this is me
> thinking left field again, but do you suppose it's time for
> Hardcore/Happy Hardcore to take the frontline in dance music
> in the US?
>
> Granted, Happy Hardcore has been here for quite a while.
> Aluna "All Of My Life" (I think that's the title) is that
> type of track. Granted, in the 80's and 90's there have
> been so many sub-genres out there (house, techno, trance,
> Euro, drum and bass) but nothing inventive (at least that I
> know of anyway) in this decade. Dance music has ALWAYS been
> about reinvention. Maybe Happy Hardcore's time is now?
>
> Like I said, another left field thinking from me! LOL
>
> TONY SANTIAGO
> Hey, Tony
I'm honestly not familiar with happy hardcore. If it's not complicated ,that's a plus.In a period of time when "Laffy Taffy" goes to #1 on the Pop chart, I've kept that in mind with my tracks, especially with "DanceFloor",which is ground zero for the "We Like To Party","Who Let The Dogs Out" potential audience,which STILL loves those songs,believe it or not....I will explore happy hardcore,though, on your reccomendations.
 
Happy Hardcore? One of My Ultimate Guilty Pleasures ? :)

Now you've done it Tony! Made me reminisce, and break out all my mid 90s records.

My favorite Happy Hardcore tunes of alltime:

RMB "Spring"
Scooter "Move Your Ass"
Marusha "It Takes Me Away"
Ultra Sonic "Arpeggio/Annhiliating Rhythm"
Dune "Hardcore Vibes"
Brisk & Trixxy "Eyeopener"
Paul Elstak "The Promised Land"
Moby "Feeling So Real
Sunbeam "Outside World"
Sunbeam "In The Arms of Heaven"
Scooter "Let Me Be Your Valentine"
The Prodigy "No Good (Start The Dance)"
Westbam "Celebration Generation"
Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo "Wonderful Days"
Technohead "I Wanna Be a Hippy"
Apollo 440 "Ain't Talkin About Dub"
Paul Elstak "Luv U More"
Scooter "Back In The UK"
RMB "Love Is An Ocean"
RMB "Passport To Heaven"
Legend B "Lost In Love"
Jones & Stephenson "First Rebirth"
Dune "Can't Stop Raving"
Mark Oh "Tears Don't Lie"
Dune "Rainbow To The Stars"
Paul Elstak "Rainbow In The Sky"
Scooter "Friends"
Disco Death Race 2000 "Speed Racer"

In the US it's mainly big on the West Coast, specifically with some of the kids in L.A.
 
Chrles,, Thats not all Happy hardcore

> Now you've done it Tony! Made me reminisce, and break out
> all my mid 90s records.
>
> My favorite Happy Hardcore tunes of alltime:
>
> RMB "Spring"
> Scooter "Move Your Ass"
> Marusha "It Takes Me Away"
> Ultra Sonic "Arpeggio/Annhiliating Rhythm"
> Dune "Hardcore Vibes"
> Brisk & Trixxy "Eyeopener"
> Paul Elstak "The Promised Land"
> Moby "Feeling So Real
> Sunbeam "Outside World"
> Sunbeam "In The Arms of Heaven"
> Scooter "Let Me Be Your Valentine"
> The Prodigy "No Good (Start The Dance)"
> Westbam "Celebration Generation"
> Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo "Wonderful Days"
> Technohead "I Wanna Be a Hippy"
> Apollo 440 "Ain't Talkin About Dub"
> Paul Elstak "Luv U More"
> Scooter "Back In The UK"
> RMB "Love Is An Ocean"
> RMB "Passport To Heaven"
> Legend B "Lost In Love"
> Jones & Stephenson "First Rebirth"
> Dune "Can't Stop Raving"
> Mark Oh "Tears Don't Lie"
> Dune "Rainbow To The Stars"
> Paul Elstak "Rainbow In The Sky"
> Scooter "Friends"
> Disco Death Race 2000 "Speed Racer"
>
> In the US it's mainly big on the West Coast, specifically
> with some of the kids in L.A.
>
I wouldnt call all of those tracks Happy Hardcore. I hate Happy Hardcore with a passion, if you are describing the type of tracks like the D.I Happy Hardcore channel plays, but I actually like a great deal of the classics you have listed, but most of those are just Hardcore in General,, And not happy so much,,, I love the Appollo 440 record, But it isnt Happy hardcore.
 
> > The missing ingredient ,in dance records, where
> conventional
> > radio is concerned,if you want to reach that mainstream
> > massive audience which could resurrect dance as we know
> it,
> > is records that are about something,records by an
> > identifiable person,and most importantly, records that are
>
> > sassy,records with attitude,records that make people smile
>
> > and nod their heads in agreement.
> > Most current hip hop and pop rock(even country) is sassy
> and
> > attitude driven; clearly,America loves that,as they love
> > Howard Stern,and talk radio.
> >
> > I like to think that currently, I'm makings those type of
> > records for dance; the question is,is dance radio ready to
>
> > make that(potentially life saving) leap to embrace
> > non-diva,non 'sing-song' records? It's a very interesting
> > period of time to be involved in dance in America,and I'm
> > interested in EVERYONE's opinions, positive or negative,
> > however sassy or attitude driven they may be!
> >
>
> I'm going to do another post on this, and this is me
> thinking left field again, but do you suppose it's time for
> Hardcore/Happy Hardcore to take the frontline in dance music
> in the US?
>
> Granted, Happy Hardcore has been here for quite a while.
> Aluna "All Of My Life" (I think that's the title) is that
> type of track. Granted, in the 80's and 90's there have
> been so many sub-genres out there (house, techno, trance,
> Euro, drum and bass) but nothing inventive (at least that I
> know of anyway) in this decade. Dance music has ALWAYS been
> about reinvention. Maybe Happy Hardcore's time is now?
>
> Like I said, another left field thinking from me! LOL
>
> TONY SANTIAGO
>
Tony,, You know I have a very great deal of respect for you, and I think your a cool guy, That, and I usually DO agree with you, especially with your KTU opinions and ideas, and New York Dance Radio in General... But If happy hardcore became Huge, and became the default U.S Mainstream Format,,, I would run away from Dance, and jump on the Pure Hip Hop Bus, faster than you could snap a finger.
 
> Tony,, You know I have a very great deal of respect for you,
> and I think your a cool guy, That, and I usually DO agree
> with you, especially with your KTU opinions and ideas, and
> New York Dance Radio in General... But If happy hardcore
> became Huge, and became the default U.S Mainstream Format,,,
> I would run away from Dance, and jump on the Pure Hip Hop
> Bus, faster than you could snap a finger.
>

I hear ya midwest :)

Sometimes I just like thinking outside the box and see where it goes. Some will agree and some won't. And that's cool. Just something to throw out there to see what people think.

TS :)
 
> > > The missing ingredient ,in dance records, where
> > conventional
> > > radio is concerned,if you want to reach that mainstream
> > > massive audience which could resurrect dance as we know
>
> > it,
> > > is records that are about something,records by an
> > > identifiable person,and most importantly, records that
> are
> >
> > > sassy,records with attitude,records that make people
> smile
> >
> > > and nod their heads in agreement.
> > > Most current hip hop and pop rock(even country) is sassy
>
> > and
> > > attitude driven; clearly,America loves that,as they love
>
> > > Howard Stern,and talk radio.
> > >
> > > I like to think that currently, I'm makings those type
> of
> > > records for dance; the question is,is dance radio ready
> to
> >
> > > make that(potentially life saving) leap to embrace
> > > non-diva,non 'sing-song' records? It's a very
> interesting
> > > period of time to be involved in dance in America,and
> I'm
> > > interested in EVERYONE's opinions, positive or negative,
>
> > > however sassy or attitude driven they may be!
> > >
> >
> > I'm going to do another post on this, and this is me
> > thinking left field again, but do you suppose it's time
> for
> > Hardcore/Happy Hardcore to take the frontline in dance
> music
> > in the US?
> >
> > Granted, Happy Hardcore has been here for quite a while.
> > Aluna "All Of My Life" (I think that's the title) is that
> > type of track. Granted, in the 80's and 90's there have
> > been so many sub-genres out there (house, techno, trance,
> > Euro, drum and bass) but nothing inventive (at least that
> I
> > know of anyway) in this decade. Dance music has ALWAYS
> been
> > about reinvention. Maybe Happy Hardcore's time is now?
> >
> > Like I said, another left field thinking from me! LOL
> >
> > TONY SANTIAGO
> > Hey, Tony
> I'm honestly not familiar with happy hardcore. If it's not
> complicated ,that's a plus.In a period of time when "Laffy
> Taffy" goes to #1 on the Pop chart, I've kept that in mind
> with my tracks, especially with "DanceFloor",which is ground
> zero for the "We Like To Party","Who Let The Dogs Out"
> potential audience,which STILL loves those songs,believe it
> or not....I will explore happy hardcore,though, on your
> reccomendations.
>

It's pretty fast paced dance music; something that would typically be used in a "rave" setting. New Yorkers might not (or perhaps NEVER) understand it. And it's like I was saying before...just a left field, out of the box thought to see what people would think.
 
You're right ;)

> > Now you've done it Tony! Made me reminisce, and break out
> > all my mid 90s records.
> >
> > My favorite Happy Hardcore tunes of alltime:
> >
> > RMB "Spring"
> > Scooter "Move Your Ass"
> > Marusha "It Takes Me Away"
> > Ultra Sonic "Arpeggio/Annhiliating Rhythm"
> > Dune "Hardcore Vibes"
> > Brisk & Trixxy "Eyeopener"
> > Paul Elstak "The Promised Land"
> > Moby "Feeling So Real
> > Sunbeam "Outside World"
> > Sunbeam "In The Arms of Heaven"
> > Scooter "Let Me Be Your Valentine"
> > The Prodigy "No Good (Start The Dance)"
> > Westbam "Celebration Generation"
> > Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo "Wonderful Days"
> > Technohead "I Wanna Be a Hippy"
> > Apollo 440 "Ain't Talkin About Dub"
> > Paul Elstak "Luv U More"
> > Scooter "Back In The UK"
> > RMB "Love Is An Ocean"
> > RMB "Passport To Heaven"
> > Legend B "Lost In Love"
> > Jones & Stephenson "First Rebirth"
> > Dune "Can't Stop Raving"
> > Mark Oh "Tears Don't Lie"
> > Dune "Rainbow To The Stars"
> > Paul Elstak "Rainbow In The Sky"
> > Scooter "Friends"
> > Disco Death Race 2000 "Speed Racer"
> >
> > In the US it's mainly big on the West Coast, specifically
> > with some of the kids in L.A.
> >
> I wouldnt call all of those tracks Happy Hardcore. I hate
> Happy Hardcore with a passion, if you are describing the
> type of tracks like the D.I Happy Hardcore channel plays,
> but I actually like a great deal of the classics you have
> listed, but most of those are just Hardcore in General,, And
> not happy so much,,, I love the Appollo 440 record, But it
> isnt Happy hardcore.
>
You're right some of those songs I guess are just faced-paced Dance high energy/hardcore anthems. A few were even big early Trance classics, like Legend B's "Lost In Love", and Jones & Stephenson "The First Rebirth".
Some are by well known Electronica acts like The Prodigy, Apollo 440, and Moby.
Some were associated with the early 90s Berlin (and especially club tresor) club scene, like Westbam and Marusha.
I think though that all of them were big Rave anthems in Europe, and for a while Happy Hardcore pretty much seemed to eqaul Rave music.
 
Dirty South Happy Hardcore, LOL

> Tony,, You know I have a very great deal of respect for you,
> and I think your a cool guy, That, and I usually DO agree
> with you, especially with your KTU opinions and ideas, and
> New York Dance Radio in General... But If happy hardcore
> became Huge, and became the default U.S Mainstream Format,,,
> I would run away from Dance, and jump on the Pure Hip Hop
> Bus, faster than you could snap a finger.
>
Yo! That Hip Hop bus will run you over kid, better wrekonize foo.
I hear da next big thang's gonna be Dirty South Happy Hardcore, or Punkish Reggaeton, son.
It's on like donkey kong so don't even trip while you hop on dat bus...ya heard me???

That's how it's goin down, that right thurrr is where it's at ;)
 
Re: Dirty South Happy Hardcore, LOL

> > Tony,, You know I have a very great deal of respect for
> you,
> > and I think your a cool guy, That, and I usually DO agree
> > with you, especially with your KTU opinions and ideas, and
>
> > New York Dance Radio in General... But If happy hardcore
> > became Huge, and became the default U.S Mainstream
> Format,,,
> > I would run away from Dance, and jump on the Pure Hip Hop
> > Bus, faster than you could snap a finger.
> >
> Yo! That Hip Hop bus will run you over kid, better wrekonize
> foo.
> I hear da next big thang's gonna be Dirty South Happy
> Hardcore, or Punkish Reggaeton, son.
> It's on like donkey kong so don't even trip while you hop on
> dat bus...ya heard me???
>
> That's how it's goin down, that right thurrr is where it's
> at ;)
>
LOL.... Thats so Hillarious,,, You would soooo get Beat Up in the Ghetto talkin like that, Possibbly even shot in places like L.A, NYC, CHI-Town, But in the Midwest, they,d just rough you up, and probably rob ya.....LOL
 
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