The new krth

[SuperRadioFan]

C'mon David I think you know I'm not disputing the demographic make up; I just don't tolerate the programming needed to reach these listeners.

 

[TheBigA]

A lot of radio fans dislike nationalized radio formats, and complain when one is brought into their town. But in this case, a PD has designed a CH format specifically for LA, and it's criticized because it's not like the format in other cities. So one's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

I find it interesting that since the end of Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel, I've been seeing more trade ads for Tom Kent's programming. He does a national oldies channel that some small stations carry.

 

[ChannelFlipper]

The problem is that 76 and his camp followers post the same "play the lost oldies" stuff over and over and over and over and....

Of course the irony is that you are complaining about his repetitiveness.

 

[LKellerIII]

i just bought a new car with two months of free Sirius/XM. Though I've been flipping the dial around between their myriad formats, I've managed to hear the much maligned Brown Eyed Girl twice in 3 days.

 

[BOZ Profit]

I am responding here to let you all know this thread has been reported from both sides of the argument, and I am reviewing what action to take, if any.

While I do so, I would like to refer you to something I posted elsewhere on the site. Please keep it in mind when responding to something you disagree with.

You all are intelligent, and articulate in your writing. There is no need to get dirty on a personal level no matter how much you may dislike each other.

Remember everyone is coming to the table with different experiences that are their point of reference for why they believe what they do. That does not make them less of a human than anyone else.

Equality is about giving each other the same respect. If you truly believe in equality, you will adhere to this. Being disrespectful shows you believe the other is inferior and less equal than you.

Please refrain from ad hominem remarks (Definition: attacking an opponent's motives or character rather than the policy or position they maintain. Also see this Wikipedia post), and name calling. It really is not that difficult when you remember the Golden Rule of treating others the way you want to be treated.

If you cannot follow this simple request, then I will have no choice but to suspend and/or remove your posting privileges.

 

[K.M. Richards]

Boz and I have had a conversation about this, and while he has not specified which of my remarks may have been offensive he suggests that some of them may have been.

In honoring my agreement with him and with you all, I apologize for any such remarks.

 

[BOZ Profit]

In honoring my agreement with him and with you all, I apologize for any such remarks.

On behalf of the others who may have felt insulted, I appreciate the apology.

On that note, I shall leave this open for FINAL remarks. Which means participants can state their position and hand the conch back to me. : ) Then I will close the thread and we can all move on to other topics.

 

[John Gallagher]

Random thoughts from a guy that's outside almost all station demos. I just turned 55 this year and spent almost 25 years in the radio business, most of it in the 1970s-1990s. What do I listen to? CHR. The Classic Hits stations that have their playlists online (KRTH, WCBS etc.) from what I can tell are playing all the right songs. Obviously, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes would test better in Philly on WOGL than they would on KRTH. It took me a long time to make me realize what stations are doing out there is the right thing. You have to play the music that makes people feel GOOD, not make them tune away. Just because a song was #1 in 1973 means that listeners want to hear it.

Over the last couple of years, I voicetracked at an OLDIES station in Northeast OH. The music library in the computer is 3000+ songs, many of which I'd never heard of nor what I'd want to hear today. Sure, it's an AM frequency that streams, but if you hear a song or several songs that make you want to tune out, will you come back?

Even True Oldies Channel (soon to be RIP) plays songs that make me scratch my head.

Have you noticed the songs that test well consistently are upbeat and fun songs that make us feel good?

Just my 2 cents.

 

[CTListener]

Random thoughts from a guy that's outside almost all station demos. I just turned 55 this year and spent almost 25 years in the radio business, most of it in the 1970s-1990s. What do I listen to? CHR. The Classic Hits stations that have their playlists online (KRTH, WCBS etc.) from what I can tell are playing all the right songs. Obviously, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes would test better in Philly on WOGL than they would on KRTH. It took me a long time to make me realize what stations are doing out there is the right thing. You have to play the music that makes people feel GOOD, not make them tune away. Just because a song was #1 in 1973 means that listeners want to hear it.

Over the last couple of years, I voicetracked at an OLDIES station in Northeast OH. The music library in the computer is 3000+ songs, many of which I'd never heard of nor what I'd want to hear today. Sure, it's an AM frequency that streams, but if you hear a song or several songs that make you want to tune out, will you come back?

Even True Oldies Channel (soon to be RIP) plays songs that make me scratch my head.

Have you noticed the songs that test well consistently are upbeat and fun songs that make us feel good?

Just my 2 cents.

The upbeat/fun thing is fairly recent to the oldies/classic hits format, in my opinion. Oldies stations for years had numerous slow/sad songs in rotation: A Whiter Shade of Pale, Poor Side of Town, Tell It Like It Is, Colour My World, the list goes on and on. Now most classic hits stations are relentlessly uptempo and upbeat. Even the songs about heartbreak and loneliness have to have energy. I can only surmise that slow/sad songs of the '80s don't test well with the lower end of the classic hits demo, so the slow/sad '60s and '70s songs are sacrificed so as not to have those listeners tune out what, for them, are "bad songs" (as DE would say) for the format. I'm 59 and, while I like a lot of '80s music, I miss the variety -- not so much in playlist depth as in tempo. Today's classic hits stations sound just like today's AC stations, just with older music. OTOH, my barber, who is in her early 40s, always has the local classic hits station on and practically dances around the chair while the station pumps out "Bad Girls," "Maneater," "Freeze Frame" and "I Love Music."

 

[oldies76]

Boz and I have had a conversation about this, and while he has not specified which of my remarks may have been offensive he suggests that some of them may have been.

In honoring my agreement with him and with you all, I apologize for any such remarks.

Alright KM, apologies accepted. I have repeated myself, because points are need to be make known about this ongoing issue of classic hits which I disagree with. I too, have gone over the top as well and yes, become repetitive on certain issues and that should stop on my part.

So as the moderator has said, let's move on and we can discuss future issues in a better and more appropriate manner going forward. Thanks.

 

[Thomps2525]

Mister oldies 76 acknowledges that he has often repeated himself. I, too, have often repeated myself. Mister oldies 76 acknowledges that he has often repeated himself. I, too, have often repeated myself.

All right, now that that is out of the way, I can say that the posts in this thread have taught me a lot about programming philosophies. I may not like certain programming but I can understand the reasons for it. It mainly has to do with those coveted "target demos." As for the "variety" that CTListener can no longer find on FM, well, there's always Spotify, Sonic Tap, Internet stations and satellite radio. And our old vinyl records.

 

[crainbebo]

My final thoughts: There are some classic hits stations that are super repetitive, but there are others who have gigantic playlists. Many are on the internet and in small towns - I love listening to live and local small town stations. And I do agree most songs make people feel good.
I do believe some people have gone over the top on this thread - yes. I'd look at the latest posts and see a lot of bickering back and forth. Hopefully these final posts will be the end.