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The new sound of Kday

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Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop today and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the music is not all hiphop anymore. Most of the music played is 80's and 90's hip hop, rb, freestyle, old school and pop. I actually like the new mix of music they are playing. I've been listening for the last hour and I haven't heard any currents. But yea, I like this new direction. Has anyone notice?
 
> Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop today
> and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the music
> is not all hiphop anymore. Most of the music played is 80's
> and 90's hip hop, rb, freestyle, old school and pop. I
> actually like the new mix of music they are playing. I've
> been listening for the last hour and I haven't heard any
> currents. But yea, I like this new direction. Has anyone
> notice?
>


The music mix is pretty good. I did hear some new stuff by Sean Paul and T-Pain.
 
> Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop today
> and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the music
> is not all hiphop anymore.

To quote someone I know at Styles:

Hip-hop is way off cycle right now and as a result they have made some modifications.

KDAY has tended to have about a quarter of the 18-34 ratings that Power has. I would think that playing more old school and pop might fill in that gap by stealing listeners from KIIS, Hot, and the Beat.<P ID="signature">______________


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> Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop today
> and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the music
> is not all hiphop anymore. Most of the music played is 80's
> and 90's hip hop, rb, freestyle, old school and pop. I
> actually like the new mix of music they are playing. I've
> been listening for the last hour and I haven't heard any
> currents. But yea, I like this new direction. Has anyone
> notice?

Billboard Radio Monitor has: They're dropping KDAY from the R&B/Hip-Hop panel effective April 14th.
 
> > Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop today
>
> > and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the
> music
> > is not all hiphop anymore. Most of the music played is
> 80's
> > and 90's hip hop, rb, freestyle, old school and pop. I
> > actually like the new mix of music they are playing. I've
>
> > been listening for the last hour and I haven't heard any
> > currents. But yea, I like this new direction. Has anyone
> > notice?
> >
>
>
> The music mix is pretty good. I did hear some new stuff by
> Sean Paul and T-Pain.
>

"All Day Every Day" isn't that the positioning statement for 7-11 or is it AM-PM stores? Stupid. Says nothing. Which is about what Styles will achieve with this format which was on the entire weekend before last. The processing on this station reminds one of early 1980's KUTE 102 - awful. This small fry company does not belong in Los Angeles.
 
> > > Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop
> today
> >
> > > and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the
> > music
> > > is not all hiphop anymore. Most of the music played is
> > 80's
> > > and 90's hip hop, rb, freestyle, old school and pop. I
> > > actually like the new mix of music they are playing.
> I've
> >
> > > been listening for the last hour and I haven't heard any
>
> > > currents. But yea, I like this new direction. Has anyone
>
> > > notice?
> > >
> >
> >
> > The music mix is pretty good. I did hear some new stuff by
>
> > Sean Paul and T-Pain.
> >
>
> "All Day Every Day" isn't that the positioning statement for
> 7-11 or is it AM-PM stores? Stupid. Says nothing. Which is
> about what Styles will achieve with this format which was on
> the entire weekend before last. The processing on this
> station reminds one of early 1980's KUTE 102 - awful. This
> small fry company does not belong in Los Angeles.

You have a habit of slamming everything. How come you never post solutions? Never come with ideas? Just like to slam everything that other people do.



>
 
> > > > Has anyone notice that they drop the slogan "Hip hop
> > today
> > >
> > > > and back in the day" for "All day every day". Even the
>
> > > music
> > > > is not all hiphop anymore. Most of the music played is
>
> > > 80's
> > > > and 90's hip hop, rb, freestyle, old school and pop. I
>
> > > > actually like the new mix of music they are playing.
> > I've
> > >
> > > > been listening for the last hour and I haven't heard
> any
> >
> > > > currents. But yea, I like this new direction. Has
> anyone
> >
> > > > notice?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The music mix is pretty good. I did hear some new stuff
> by
> >
> > > Sean Paul and T-Pain.
> > >
> >
> > "All Day Every Day" isn't that the positioning statement
> for
> > 7-11 or is it AM-PM stores? Stupid. Says nothing. Which is
>
> > about what Styles will achieve with this format which was
> on
> > the entire weekend before last. The processing on this
> > station reminds one of early 1980's KUTE 102 - awful. This
>
> > small fry company does not belong in Los Angeles.
>
> You have a habit of slamming everything. How come you never
> post solutions? Never come with ideas? Just like to slam
> everything that other people do.
>

Styles deseves to be slammed just for trying to program a station in this market. They are small market radio people and need to return to their roots.

Here's Styles best solution. Sell the station, if they can, to someone who can operate it effectively in a market dominated by America's biggest radio players. They paid too much for it and they are programming a format that won't ever dominate or come in top 10 (or close to top 10) in their target demo. There is plenty of equity money out there to buy stations at this time so try and sell it. The format they have on now is a joke. It rates along with KDL as the worst station ever on FM in Los Angeles.

At least SBS was getting decent ratings with that stick - with improvements made to it since SBS's format - so no one can say that just because the signal doesn't cover the entire metro area it can be a winner.

There are plenty of (english language) formats that could bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't programming one of them.
 
> Styles deseves to be slammed just for trying to program a
> station in this market. They are small market radio people
> and need to return to their roots.
>
> Here's Styles best solution. Sell the station, if they can,
> to someone who can operate it effectively in a market
> dominated by America's biggest radio players. They paid too
> much for it and they are programming a format that won't
> ever dominate or come in top 10 (or close to top 10) in
> their target demo. There is plenty of equity money out there
> to buy stations at this time so try and sell it. The format
> they have on now is a joke. It rates along with KDL as the
> worst station ever on FM in Los Angeles.
>
> At least SBS was getting decent ratings with that stick -
> with improvements made to it since SBS's format - so no one
> can say that just because the signal doesn't cover the
> entire metro area it can be a winner.
>


I looked at your post several times: I couldn't find any ideas
of what Styles could do with it...just another (tired) list of
how stupid and small-time they are. Boring and amateurish.
> There are plenty of (english language) formats that could
> bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't
> programming one of them.
>
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but wait...there's more!</P>
 
> > Styles deseves to be slammed just for trying to program a
> > station in this market. They are small market radio people
>
> > and need to return to their roots.
> >
> > Here's Styles best solution. Sell the station, if they
> can,
> > to someone who can operate it effectively in a market
> > dominated by America's biggest radio players. They paid
> too
> > much for it and they are programming a format that won't
> > ever dominate or come in top 10 (or close to top 10) in
> > their target demo. There is plenty of equity money out
> there
> > to buy stations at this time so try and sell it. The
> format
> > they have on now is a joke. It rates along with KDL as the
>
> > worst station ever on FM in Los Angeles.
> >
> > At least SBS was getting decent ratings with that stick -
> > with improvements made to it since SBS's format - so no
> one
> > can say that just because the signal doesn't cover the
> > entire metro area it can be a winner.
> >
>
>
> I looked at your post several times: I couldn't find any
> ideas
> of what Styles could do with it...just another (tired)
> list of
> how stupid and small-time they are. Boring and
> amateurish.
> > There are plenty of (english language) formats that could
> > bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't
> > programming one of them.
> >
>

I've seen your posts which contain limited knowledge of the Los Angels radio market. Most of the time you end up incorrect just like your most recent post in the Star thread. When you don't know what is going on behind the scenes, best not to post.

I don't give detailed advice for free. I get paid for it.
 
> I've seen your posts which contain limited knowledge of the
> Los Angels radio market. Most of the time you end up
> incorrect just like your most recent post in the Star
> thread. When you don't know what is going on behind the
> scenes, best not to post.
>
> I don't give detailed advice for free. I get paid for it.

Not here you don't. And thanks for noticing that I don't pretend to
be an expert on LA radio. One of us should, huh?
>
<P ID="signature">______________
but wait...there's more!</P>
 
> > I've seen your posts which contain limited knowledge of
> the
> > Los Angels radio market. Most of the time you end up
> > incorrect just like your most recent post in the Star
> > thread. When you don't know what is going on behind the
> > scenes, best not to post.
> >
> > I don't give detailed advice for free. I get paid for it.
>
> Not here you don't. And thanks for noticing that I don't
> pretend to
> be an expert on LA radio. One of us should, huh?
> >
>

At least Romer knows how to spell "Los Angeles" - you may want to start there.

All we do is feed this person by responding to their dribble. For me, I'd rather have discussions with intelligent people like David.
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

>
> There are plenty of (english language) formats that could
> bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't
> programming one of them.

Unfortunately, the signal covers mostly ethnic neighborhoods and ZIPs. The only alternatives for this facility are Spanish or Black... the hip hop derivitive has the advantage that it covers both ethnicities that live under the signal (which barely improved with the move to the KNX tower). It is what it is... the coverage area is the biggest format limitation, and precludes most general market formats.
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

> >
> > There are plenty of (english language) formats that could
> > bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't
> > programming one of them.
>
> Unfortunately, the signal covers mostly ethnic neighborhoods
> and ZIPs. The only alternatives for this facility are
> Spanish or Black... the hip hop derivitive has the advantage
> that it covers both ethnicities that live under the signal
> (which barely improved with the move to the KNX tower). It
> is what it is... the coverage area is the biggest format
> limitation, and precludes most general market formats.
>
David is correct. When Glenn speaks of English formats, he probably thinks old white format because he likes it will work. Truth is, the signal is basically best for something in the Urban genre and Spanish...
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

> David is correct. When Glenn speaks of English formats, he
> probably thinks old white format because he likes it will
> work. Truth is, the signal is basically best for something
> in the Urban genre and Spanish...

There are ways to create formats that "look White" (mass-appeal) while having the right music mix to appeal to Spanish-speaking listeners.

Not that I expect Glenn to understand that.<P ID="signature">______________


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> > > I've seen your posts which contain limited knowledge of
> > the
> > > Los Angels radio market. Most of the time you end up
> > > incorrect just like your most recent post in the Star
> > > thread. When you don't know what is going on behind the
> > > scenes, best not to post.
> > >
> > > I don't give detailed advice for free. I get paid for
> it.
> >
> > Not here you don't. And thanks for noticing that I
> don't
> > pretend to
> > be an expert on LA radio. One of us should, huh?
> > >
> >
>
> At least Romer knows how to spell "Los Angeles" - you may
> want to start there.
>
> All we do is feed this person by responding to their
> dribble. For me, I'd rather have discussions with
> intelligent people like David.
>

Yes, dribble like what is going on at certain radio stations that even LARadio.com has to admit to days after I've posted it here. Thanks for the laughs. That goes for KMR and Romer, too. I love it when you are all so jealous and prove you are out of the loop.
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

> >
> > There are plenty of (english language) formats that could
> > bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't
> > programming one of them.
>
> Unfortunately, the signal covers mostly ethnic neighborhoods
> and ZIPs. The only alternatives for this facility are
> Spanish or Black... the hip hop derivitive has the advantage
> that it covers both ethnicities that live under the signal
> (which barely improved with the move to the KNX tower). It
> is what it is... the coverage area is the biggest format
> limitation, and precludes most general market formats.
>
Great. They are missing out on a format that has aleady been done on both am and Fm in this market and has done well both in ratings and revenue. And it has an appeal equally to both hispanics and blacks. And recent (key word) research shows its appeal to those zips. Maybe it is even an HD format that done right could even be on a full market stick. And, best of all, it's not the mess that Styles is curently programming on 93.5.
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

> > >
> > > There are plenty of (english language) formats that
> could
> > > bring in decent cash for that signal. They aren't
> > > programming one of them.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the signal covers mostly ethnic
> neighborhoods
> > and ZIPs. The only alternatives for this facility are
> > Spanish or Black... the hip hop derivitive has the
> advantage
> > that it covers both ethnicities that live under the signal
>
> > (which barely improved with the move to the KNX tower). It
>
> > is what it is... the coverage area is the biggest format
> > limitation, and precludes most general market formats.
> >
> Great. They are missing out on a format that has aleady been
> done on both am and Fm in this market and has done well both
> in ratings and revenue. And it has an appeal equally to both
> hispanics and blacks. And recent (key word) research shows
> its appeal to those zips. Maybe it is even an HD format that
> done right could even be on a full market stick. And, best
> of all, it's not the mess that Styles is curently
> programming on 93.5.

I know what he's referring to - and I believe it is viable - but two big sticks in this market could likely cover it very quickly...





>
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

>
> > > limitation, and precludes most general market formats.
> > >
> > Great. They are missing out on a format that has aleady
> been
> > done on both am and Fm in this market and has done well
> both
> > in ratings and revenue. And it has an appeal equally to
> both
> > hispanics and blacks. And recent (key word) research shows
>
> > its appeal to those zips. Maybe it is even an HD format
> that
> > done right could even be on a full market stick. And, best
>
> > of all, it's not the mess that Styles is curently
> > programming on 93.5.
>
> I know what he's referring to - and I believe it is viable -
> but two big sticks in this market could likely cover it very
> quickly...

I am not sure I can figure out this riddle. Anyway, keep in mind that there is limited crossover between Black and Hispanic taste except in the area of hip hop. R&B is pretty limited in acceptance by LA Hispanics (which is why KXOL cut nearly all of it out as a flavor). Jammin' oldies has proven in San Antonio to burn out today as much as in the past, and anyting based on English music has an ever-lessening appeal to Hispanics in the 93.5 area, which is about 80% Spanish dominant.
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

> >
> > > > limitation, and precludes most general market formats.
>
> > > >
> > > Great. They are missing out on a format that has aleady
> > been
> > > done on both am and Fm in this market and has done well
> > both
> > > in ratings and revenue. And it has an appeal equally to
> > both
> > > hispanics and blacks. And recent (key word) research
> shows
> >
> > > its appeal to those zips. Maybe it is even an HD format
> > that
> > > done right could even be on a full market stick. And,
> best
> >
> > > of all, it's not the mess that Styles is curently
> > > programming on 93.5.
> >
> > I know what he's referring to - and I believe it is viable
> -
> > but two big sticks in this market could likely cover it
> very
> > quickly...
>
> I am not sure I can figure out this riddle. Anyway, keep in
> mind that there is limited crossover between Black and
> Hispanic taste except in the area of hip hop. R&B is pretty
> limited in acceptance by LA Hispanics (which is why KXOL cut
> nearly all of it out as a flavor). Jammin' oldies has proven
> in San Antonio to burn out today as much as in the past, and
> anyting based on English music has an ever-lessening appeal
> to Hispanics in the 93.5 area, which is about 80% Spanish
> dominant.



I believe his riddle is Killer Oldies or Jammin' Oldies... which if done in the Art Laboe style is primarily Hispanic in appeal.
 
Re: Few Viable Formats for 93.5

> > David is correct. When Glenn speaks of English formats, he
>
> > probably thinks old white format because he likes it will
> > work. Truth is, the signal is basically best for something
>
> > in the Urban genre and Spanish...
>
> There are ways to create formats that "look White"
> (mass-appeal) while having the right music mix to appeal to
> Spanish-speaking listeners.

... as stations like KBIG and even KROQ have proven that a station can even over-index with English dominant Hispanics.

The real issue, which changes things dramatically in South Central and the area that 93.5 covers is that the new language balancing and personal-level language determination show that zone to be almost 80% Spanish dominant among Hispanics, meaning there is far less English listening being recorded in that area by Hispanics.
>
> Not that I expect Glenn to understand that.

Not in this Millennium.
>
 
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