The name STAR must be generic like MIX. Maybe STAR 102.5 was the trademark. Without the frequency, it doesn't matter. I doubt the word ROCK can be trademarked either. Audacy has much bigger problems, so they likely don't care about the "New" Star at Townsquare. If it was important, they could have changed KISS to STAR...It's a generic brand until its used in a specific market. Then it becomes a trademark for that market.
I'm curious how a competitor can legally use this brand without any waiting period.
Perhaps using the Star name with a different frequency doesn't tread on the trademark. That's up to lawyers.
If they really cared, they probably could have thrown an automated jukebox on one of their other FM HD subchannels and called it Star to protect the brand.
They've already been burned 3 times. The last 3 formats have failed on 107.7 (WBEN simulcast, Alternative and Country). Why bother watching STAR become a 1 share format on that same signal.? They'll just let The Wolf limp along until they ultimately sell the station...That's exactly what a lot of stations do. Or put it on 107.7.
Rob can claim that he doesn't know what his future holds, but he's confident and positive that all is going to be alright. Sounds to me like the deal has already been done. I think you're right on the money, Mr. Bridges. Lucas to Star 96.1and Dave Fields I'm guessing goes back to country and WYRK or maybe out on the beach.Concur. From the looks of Persons 12+ posted on this board, the Breeze had become nothing more than a wisp. Star's 12+ numbers were in decline after the Christmas music surge. You wonder how much of the numbers for both Star and Breeze are attributable to the nature of Hot AC product. The question is, will Rob Lucas show up doing mornings from the Rand Building? If so, what becomes of Dave Fields, who joined 96.1 for mornings when it was Mix 96, then successfully transitioned to afternoon drive at WYRK when Joe Chille took over mornings after Mix became the Breeze. When Chille left for WECK, Fields returned to morning drive at 96.1 and has been there since.
Star closed with Iris, by Buffalo's Goo Goo Dollas, which ended around 10:04 a.m. This was followed by two minutes and forty five seconds of dead air, after which a simulcast with Kiss 98.5 began with a WKSE Legal ID, followed by a song, which was followed by a 7+ minute talk break by Janet and Pickle. The dead air probably burned off every listener save for the radio geeks and historians. If the nearly three minutes of dead air didn't motivate midday at-work-music listeners to bail out, the nearly seven minute talk break probably did.
Concurrent with the launch of 99.7 The Wolf, WMC-FM (FM 100) will be heard exclusively on the Audacy digital platform.
Did anyone happen to aircheck WTSS and WMSX when all this took place?
@ 8:25 "We're not changing our format, we're just changing our name..."
This is a very good point, since it's not a ppm market.What happens going forward if someone writes down STAR 102.5 in a Nielsen diary? Will K-Love and the 96.1 each get half credit? Townsquare may find that this latest name change will have no positive effect at all. Some of their listeners probably still call it JOY...
From what I've read, K-Love will still get the credit if a listener writes "K-Love" or "K-Love 102.5" or "102.5" in their diary, even though EMF may not subscribe to the report. As to "Star 102.5" IIRC this would be credited as a split between Star 96 point 1 and K-Love 102 point 5. Extending this Q&A, the Breeze, Mix or even Joy (depending upon how the Nielsen station credit sheet is completed) would be credited to Townsquare's new moniker at 96.1. David and the other ratings mavens will no doubt clarify.BTW can anyone confirm that, moving forward, if one were to simply write "K love" or "102.5" it will now simply
fall under the category of "other"? K Love is not going to be part of the book...as far as I know.
Nielsen has a well defined procedure for accreditation.What happens going forward if someone writes down STAR 102.5 in a Nielsen diary? Will K-Love and the 96.1 each get half credit? Townsquare may find that this latest name change will have no positive effect at all. Some of their listeners probably still call it JOY...
Nearly all diary entries in the last two or three decades are by frequency.This is a very good point, since it's not a ppm market.
I can only suspect that the new Star might have to change their name again just to be extra clear what to write in a diary.
K-Love is part of the book for subscribers. All stations are, whether local or out of market. It's only the public release 12+ numbers that don't include non-subscribers.BTW can anyone confirm that, moving forward, if one were to simply write "K love" or "102.5" it will now simply
fall under the category of "other"? K Love is not going to be part of the book...as far as I know.
That’s not how any of this works. Star is a generic brand that cannot be trademarked on the national or statewide levels.It's a generic brand until its used in a specific market. Then it becomes a trademark for that market.
I'm curious how a competitor can legally use this brand without any waiting period.
Perhaps using the Star name with a different frequency doesn't tread on the trademark. That's up to lawyers.
This is quite interesting, especially as it relates to Christmas Music. Ugh ... it's June and we're discussing Christmas Music. It's within the realm of reason that in purchasing the IP of Star 102.5 from Audacy, Townsquare structured of the IP agreement to include a Christmas Music non-compete clause (or Claus) to prohibit Kiss from programming All Christmas music in competition with Star 96.1.The way this played out in the coordinated timing of the launches and Audacy being vague whenever someone asked about Christmas music going forward make me believe a side deal was made. This way Audacy helps prop up Kiss with the on-air crossovers right now and Townsquare gets the Star IP and brand value. I have not confirmed any of this yet but am trying to.
The dead air was likely just engineering incompetence.This is quite interesting, especially as it relates to Christmas Music. Ugh ... it's June and we're discussing Christmas Music. It's within the realm of reason that in purchasing the IP of Star 102.5 from Audacy, Townsquare structured of the IP agreement to include a Christmas Music non-compete clause (or Claus) to prohibit Kiss from programming All Christmas music in competition with Star 96.1.
The intrigue builds.
Now, about that 2:45 of dead air after Star 102.5 said farewell and the simulcast with Kiss 98.5 began. Intentional?
Or a brief pause so former listeners would understand something was being done.The dead air was likely just engineering incompetence.
However, Audacy could claim ownership in that market. By continuing to use it on another stations, they might have a claim. On the other hand, there might have been a side deal to let the brand transition without claim.I doubt that Audacy received a dime from Townsquare. It's been established that STAR is a generic name. The idea of some sort of deal with Townsquare on the name or Christmas programming is absurd. Audacy simply sold 102.5 to raise some cash. Not much intrigue about that...