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The New WQXR is Coming 10/8

DavidEduardo said:
badjef said:
Stations are powered and deflowered all over the country. NYC is no different when it comes to this. 100.3 was COL'ed to Red Bank. It is better known by WHTZ-Newark - also a late comer to Empire.
But it remained a B and the table of allocations, spacing requirements and the laws of physics all remained the same.

Had it remained on West Mountain, It probably would have been changed. WJRZ was on one side and WRCH on the other side. Both wanting better rimshot coverage.

Besides David, we have seen those change over the years. Remember when there were only A's on A's and B/C's on B/C freq's? Where do those rules apply now? I worked for a C on 100.1 in Florida. NY is very short spaced but protection seems more likely with the 20 New Yorkers. 105.9 is one of those.

The right people bought 105.9. Politicians are more sympatico to NPR's than to commercial stations. Especially when it comes to a format that is not being duplicated in the market.
Classical has not been a "special class" for years. To upgrade 105.9 would require directionalization, which is not possible on the ESB under current master antenna setups, or the power reduction of a number of adjacents. Unlikely.

Not a special class? Then why is WNYC willing to pay extra for the calls. They can just take a set of randomly generated calls and run the jukebox with 500 year old records and call it a day. Perception is everything to radio marketing. Nobody knows 105.9 is only running 620 watts. I thought it was only 600w. What is 20watts? When a person is driving under the umbrella, he/she doesn't know or care if there is 4kw or 6kw or 620w being transmitted. That's left to geeks such as us to care.
When stations were operating from 1WTC, you had interference from them with Empire signals and the reverse. But I do not see that difference with 4TS and Empire. They are too close.

We are only dealing with 20 class b's in NYC in a market size of about 16 million. NYC and LA are the only markets I can think of that are spaced every 800khz starting from 92.3 - 107.5 without stopping.

LA has another dozen A's that are second adjacent, and all deeply inside the metro.

So does NYC with 107.1. Lately 93.5 and 103.9 want in.

When WHBI was sold about 25 years ago there was a winning bid to change 105.9 to Jersey City but as far as I know that never materialized. (It was ongoing when I left for Florida.) It was also around the time the calls were changed to WNWK.

WHBI had its licensed revoked. The case was one of the more entertaining to read, in fact.

That's when I lost track. I can't remember where the antenna was before it moved to Empire. I may not have known. Newark was its COL back then, too.
They were brokered ethnic "format".

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
600w, 620w, Radio-Locator lists them as 610w. The FCC chart lists the class B1 equivalent power at their height as 1,350 watts (1.35 Kw). Whatever, they cover the five burroughs nicely! In my area, we have full C's :p
 
They are at full power for a B1.

Even if you ignore the third adjacents, you still have 106.1 in Patchogue, and 105.9 in Hartford to think about. You also have 105.7 in Manahawkin. Not much room to work here (or just about anywhere in the Northeast).
 
luperm said:
They are at full power for a B1.

Even if you ignore the third adjacents, you still have 106.1 in Patchogue, and 105.9 in Hartford to think about. You also have 105.7 in Manahawkin. Not much room to work here (or just about anywhere in the Northeast).
105.7 is located near Lacey Rd. Not much of an issue because of distance and it too is a B1.

106.1 can be compensated for any lost revenue. Which is doubtful there would be any noticable difference outside of the people such as us who would know. They are a B. Probably grandfathered before there was B1.

Long Island stations were always 2nd fiddle to the New Yorkers, just as the shore stations in NJ.

Localism (cheaper rates) was always their strength on both sides of the water.

In NJ, 106.3 gives 105.9 a problem but that is only within about a mile or so radius. That is the gap that 96.7 will fill in.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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