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marty600
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I know this station is on the brink of irrelavancy, but has anybody heard Perry Manno's Cutting Edge program airing weekends on WRIV in Riverhead?
Good sounding show.
Good sounding show.
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We spend hours and hours posting about Morey stations and WMJC and then someone here talks about WRIV being irrelevant?
WRIV is still a place located downtown in touch with the community, where someone can get a start in broadcasting and which still has a good ear for programming (hence the subject of this thread). So before you start throwing cold water, they make the best of their AM dial position, much more than many other stations on Long Island do with their resources.
WRIV is still a place located downtown in touch with the community, where someone can get a start in broadcasting and which still has a good ear for programming (hence the subject of this thread). So before you start throwing cold water, they make the best of their AM dial position, much more than many other stations on Long Island do with their resources.
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junior
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To be honest I believe most threads in here are about the smaller less "relevant" stations. I don't expect to read about the big stations here in market #18 on this board. It is a shame in a way for those bigger stations. They rarely get mentioned here or on the dentist board. It is good however for these small stations here on the island as they struggle for attention to know that at least the posters here are listening.
Actually, there are very few stations in market #18 to talk about. In reality, they are either pathetically expensive cookie cutters (WALK, WBLI, WBAB), pathetically cheap cookie cutters (Barnstable), clueless (Morey), irrelevant (WTHE, WNYG, WGBB, WLIM), good ideas on bad signals (WEHM, WLNG), or understaffed not by choice (most of the non commercials).
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junior
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WGLIRadio your post to me is the radio industry equivalent of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There are still people working at these stations big and small who are good at what they do. The trick is to be creative and stay rellevant in a business where so many restrictions are put on you. The cookie cutter stations you refer to still have good jocks who work hard to be entertaining and informative despite the restrictions the parent company puts on them. That is the job these days. You can be one of those people banging your head against a wall bemoaning the fact that radio isn't what it once was or you can be one of those people trying to keep radio interesting. When I read a post like yours I always wonder what job you are CURRENTLY doing in the radio industry.
I have a full time job as an engineer for a New York city radio station. I volunteer my time on Long Island for two educational FM's who do the best they can with what they've got. So do a few other radio colleagues of mine... without which, the stations would not be able to do what they do. When you have dedicated radio people who live and breathe and love the industry and care enough about the next generation (even though we joke and tell them to go and be doctors), you do it for the love of it, to show them the right way.
Some of our students are now working in the city, one was on Howard Stern in August as a guest, one is working for Bloomberg radio, others are at Hofstra looking at TV careers. Others decided that radio wasn't for them because of the state of the industry.
I know many people who work for the other stations. My venom is not directed at them, they do with what they've got. I'm more annoyed with the people who try and operate these stations, usually by groups who either have bitten off more than they can chew, or who can't find their way out of a paper bag.
It's hard to drive the car with both hands tied behind your back.
Some of our students are now working in the city, one was on Howard Stern in August as a guest, one is working for Bloomberg radio, others are at Hofstra looking at TV careers. Others decided that radio wasn't for them because of the state of the industry.
I know many people who work for the other stations. My venom is not directed at them, they do with what they've got. I'm more annoyed with the people who try and operate these stations, usually by groups who either have bitten off more than they can chew, or who can't find their way out of a paper bag.
It's hard to drive the car with both hands tied behind your back.
Junior, I don't know Mike personally, and he doesn't need anyone to back him, but I know and respect his work and I've followed his posts for years. He absolutely speaks from the heart. He is a dedicated radio professional who thrives on helping out where he can. There is no way Mike holds any animosity toward the hardworking people employed by the radio stations. His posts are almost always about the management, their inability to be creative, and the way THEY treat the people who make the radio stations as good as they can be under the constraints they operate within. Even reading his posts below, I did not take his comments as a put down of the on air and behind the scenes talent. Only those who 'control' them.
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marty600
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I was commenting on the show, which started this thread, however, I beg to differ on community radio. How can community radio be in touch when it operates off a hard drive? The community isn't even listening. RIV's signal is putrid; sometimes off the air more than they are on. And the processing? Come on, they're actually not severing the community, only their political agenda and everybody in a 10 mile radius of Riverhead knows it.
Agreed -- most of FM is one giant promotional whore house. No one is questioning the talent aspect; problem is FM has run amuck. No PD outside of WHEM's guy whose name escapes me is taking format risks. The guy has chops. Where else can you hear Lyle Lovett, CCR, Gomez, Coldplay, Talking Heads, and Lay Lady Lay in a span of 20 minutes? You may not ascribe to the music, but you have to admire his programming range, which could skew down to 18 and upwards to a 45+ demo. You certainly won’t find these guys on Clear Channel, Cox and Barnstable.
That's why conglomerate ridden FM has no future. They've acquiesced their musical programming to a ratings dairy and ppms and the programming has suffered. People's IPOD playlists have more range than these knuckleheads’ who sit in promotion meetings all day as Gloria Gaynor is rotated with Billy Joel every hour. As for Manno's show, you may disagree with his politics. My point was how different it sounds versus all these audience participation talk shows. The guy is taking risks; it's a good listen and thank you WRIV for airing it.
Agreed -- most of FM is one giant promotional whore house. No one is questioning the talent aspect; problem is FM has run amuck. No PD outside of WHEM's guy whose name escapes me is taking format risks. The guy has chops. Where else can you hear Lyle Lovett, CCR, Gomez, Coldplay, Talking Heads, and Lay Lady Lay in a span of 20 minutes? You may not ascribe to the music, but you have to admire his programming range, which could skew down to 18 and upwards to a 45+ demo. You certainly won’t find these guys on Clear Channel, Cox and Barnstable.
That's why conglomerate ridden FM has no future. They've acquiesced their musical programming to a ratings dairy and ppms and the programming has suffered. People's IPOD playlists have more range than these knuckleheads’ who sit in promotion meetings all day as Gloria Gaynor is rotated with Billy Joel every hour. As for Manno's show, you may disagree with his politics. My point was how different it sounds versus all these audience participation talk shows. The guy is taking risks; it's a good listen and thank you WRIV for airing it.
Marty,
WEHM's Program Director Brian Cosgrove "HAD" chops! He no longer does...at least not at EHM. He was fired this spring...to save money! Above post by "1290" is absolutely "on the money", as it is all about the Money, and nothing but the Money...so help us all...GOD!!! Terrestrial radio is being nickeled and dimed to death by the "account executive" mentalities that run it! You can thank the likes of George W. Shrub Jr's father, Shrubb Sr., who has been a long time money-taker from the industry...especially Cheap Channel, and it's chairman/family. They are longtime best of Good Ole Boy friends.
WEHM's Program Director Brian Cosgrove "HAD" chops! He no longer does...at least not at EHM. He was fired this spring...to save money! Above post by "1290" is absolutely "on the money", as it is all about the Money, and nothing but the Money...so help us all...GOD!!! Terrestrial radio is being nickeled and dimed to death by the "account executive" mentalities that run it! You can thank the likes of George W. Shrub Jr's father, Shrubb Sr., who has been a long time money-taker from the industry...especially Cheap Channel, and it's chairman/family. They are longtime best of Good Ole Boy friends.
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