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The old KRTH

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Some questions for the KRTH brain trust.

Can anyone remind me for how long the station ran with he 'Smokin Oldie' format and through which years? I seem to remember around 1985, during my first trip to the US.

Who would of been the PD.

I've lost some old cassette tapes I had made of their oldies shows of this particular format with the jukebox sound effects and would like recreate something simila for my station here in Cyprus.

I've given up searching the web for station recordings and while there is other KRTH material there's nothing of the smokin oldies shows.

Ii'd gladly pay for any recording material should anyone know a source or the jukebox sound effects:)

David
Sunshine Radio 90.8
Cyprus
 
On February 1, 1986, KHJ became KRTH-AM and was known as "Smokin' Oldies AM 930." John Rydgren, also known as Brother John, programmed the station. A few weeks into the format, I wrote him a letter pointing out that the slogan "Music from rock'n'roll's first ten years" was inaccurate because the station played 1955-65, an eleven-year span. I also requested more doo-wop and r&b hits. Finally I expressed doubt that the format would last long; besides the audience getting older, the music would become increasingly tiresome and repetitious unless KRTH started adding later '60s songs. Rydgren sent me a handwritten reply, thanking me for my comments and noting that "the numbers are going up." RKO sold KRTH-AM/FM to Beasley Broadcasting in September of 1989. A month later, Beasley sold the AM to Liberman Broadcasting for $23 million and it switched to Spanish-language as KKHJ. I thought the Smokin' Oldies format and the Smokin' Oldies name were dumb and I didn't make any airchecks. Now I wished I had.
 
On February 1, 1986, KHJ became KRTH-AM and was known as "Smokin' Oldies AM 930." John Rydgren, also known as Brother John, programmed the station. A few weeks into the format, I wrote him a letter pointing out that the slogan "Music from rock'n'roll's first ten years" was inaccurate because the station played 1955-65, an eleven-year span. I also requested more doo-wop and r&b hits. Finally I expressed doubt that the format would last long; besides the audience getting older, the music would become increasingly tiresome and repetitious unless KRTH started adding later '60s songs. Rydgren sent me a handwritten reply, thanking me for my comments and noting that "the numbers are going up." RKO sold KRTH-AM/FM to Beasley Broadcasting in September of 1989. A month later, Beasley sold the AM to Liberman Broadcasting for $23 million and it switched to Spanish-language as KKHJ. I thought the Smokin' Oldies format and the Smokin' Oldies name were dumb and I didn't make any airchecks. Now I wished I had.

I had several hispanic friends at the time who loved the station and the slogan. Someone must have done some market research because they were very loyal to the station and viewed KRTH-FM as "white boys' oldies music". I liked both stations, but the smokin' oldies KRTH-AM did have a very tiresome playlist if listened to in long doses.
 
I did news at KHJ in 1979-80 and it seems like every time I turn on KRTH now I hear a song that reminds me of that stint at KHJ: I keep waiting for Banana Joe or Bobby Ocean to back announce it....
 
Some questions for the KRTH brain trust.

Can anyone remind me for how long the station ran with he 'Smokin Oldie' format and through which years? I seem to remember around 1985, during my first trip to the US.

Who would of been the PD.

PD was Bob Hamilton.
 
Bob Hamilton was program director of KRTH-FM from 1977 to 1986. Beginning in 1983 he also programmed KHJ. He left in 1986 to work as a consultant and later became general manager of KYA and KSFO in San Francisco. In 1986 Ron Thompson was the general manager of KRTH-AM/FM but it was John Rydgren who handled most of the programming and voiceovers for the AM.
 
The Old KRTH

Thank you gentlemen for all the info.

I wonder if John Rydgren is still around?

The Smoking Oldies format may not of done to well in the ratings having not lasted too long but it was pretty much my first taste of west coast AM radio and compared to what I listened to at the time in London, UK it sounded great - the tight programming, the typical deeper American voice, loud modulation and I believe 50kw of power all helped. You also have 10Khz channel spacing compared to our 9Khz and numerous good engineers who know how to get the best out of the studio processing and transmission system.

The nearest we had were the 60 pirate ships, R, Caroline & London and not forgetting years later Wolfman on the networked AFN from Germany who we could listen to at night via skywave.

Thank you again for your memories and if anyone can think of any possible old recordings sources I'd be most greatful.

David
Sunshine Radio 90.8
Cyprus
 


KHJ, even to this day, is 5 kw.

Correct. KHJ started out being owned by the Los Angeles Times and in the mid-twenties was sold to Don Lee, one time bicycle shop owner turned auto dealer (initially Buick, then Cadillac and for a time Oldsmobile) as a protoge of Earle C Anthony (Packard/KFI). Lee also owned stations KDB in Santa Barbara, KGB in San Diego and KFRC in San Francisco. These outlets plus other affiliates he cobbled into the Don Lee broadcasting system which was for a time the Pacific Coast affiliate of the Columbia Brioadcasting System until CBS bought KNX. Lee by then had died and his son Thomas was running things. Thomas Lee kept the Don Lee name and helped start Mutual.

The reason for the 5000 watt limitation was because of the class of the station. 50,000 watt clear channel stations were intended to give radio reception to the remotest villages and farms and had exclusive use of their assigned frequencies. Lesser stations were intended to serve metropolitan areas and shared their assigned frequency with others. This sharing necessitated lower power to avoid interferance. When network broadcasting started the NBC Red network quickly captured most of the 50,000 watt stations. NBC also had a Blue network (later to become ABC) made up principally of lower power stations. The NBC Gold and Orange networks were Pacific Coast only subsets of the Red and Blue which emulated Don Lee's relationship with Columbia. Columbia and Mutual tended to have lower power outlets for the same reason as NBC Blue - although Columbia gradually acquired several clear channel powerholuises.

Earle C Anthony and Don Lee were friendly competitors, a relationship that continued after Don's death with his son Thomas Lee until the unfortuante incapacitation and eventual suicide of the latter around 1950. Along with Klaus Landsburg and Paramount Anthony and Lee were also pioneers of television in Los Angeles (KTLA, KSEE/KFI-TV, KTSL).

All of this cosy relationship ended when the Thomas Lee estate sold KTSL channel 2 to CBS, which renamed it KNXT - now KCBS. The Don Lee radio network was sold with the aforenamed O&O stations to the General Teleradio affiliate of General Tire, controlled at the time by the O'Neill family. General Teleradio already owned WOR New York and a regional network plus stations in New England. Acquisition of Don Lee made them owners of most of Mutual. General Teleradio had acquired RKO pictures and with it their film library, enabling them to bring the "Million Dollar Movie" series to the living rooms at a time when Hollywood studios were embargoing showing of their films on tv.

CBS dumped its affiliation agreement with LA Times owned KTTV; and General Teleradio also bought Anthony's KFI-TV, which was tied up in a strike over union juristictional issues. KFI-TV was rebranded KHJ-TV and is now KCAL, channel 9, co-owned with channel 2 by CBS. This left Anthony with KFI radio as the glory days of radio network broadcasting began to fade. By the end of the decade the baton would be passing to color tv.
 
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The reason for the 5000 watt limitation was because of the class of the station. 50,000 watt clear channel stations were intended to give radio reception to the remotest villages and farms and had exclusive use of their assigned frequencies. Lesser stations were intended to serve metropolitan areas and shared their assigned frequency with others.

And even after the FCC accepted higher power limits on regional channels like 930, (K)KHJ did not file for higher power. While it could have gone to 50 kw day and night, a costly transmitter relocation would have been required. We actually did some studies about the possibility, including making offers to Pocatello and WKY that would have either silenced those 930 co-channnels or reduced their protection requirements... but it was just not economically doable.
 
There are two Davids on this thread. I'll refrain from making a horrible "House of David" joke. You're welcome. David Shapiro asked about John Rydgren. "Brother John" died of a heart attack on December 26, 1988. He was only 56. In 1968-69, Rydgren did all the voice-tracks for a syndicated progressive-rock format known as "Love"; he was heard 24 hours a day. The format ran on ABC's seven owned-and-operated FM stations: KGO, KQV, KABC, KXYZ, WLS, WABC and WXYZ. It was also syndicated to other stations.
 
An FM station using KABC call letters? Ummmm - not too sure abut that. I Think KABC AM's frequency modulation counterpart has always been KLOS
 
Art,

Nice bit of history.

It means little to me over here but I still find it facinating.

Man, you need to write a book :)

David
Sunshine Radio 90.8
Cyprus
 
Art, in 1929 KFI owner Earle C. Anthony bought KVFV and changed the call letters to KECA. (Vanity, eh?} In 1947 he started KECA-FM. In 1954 the stations became KABC-AM/FM. During the days of the "Love" format, the FM had jingles that sang "Stereo 95 and a half, KABC." The FM became KLOS in 1971.

Mister Rabbit, "the Gunner" was at KHJ from 1973 to 1978. During our nation's Bicentennial in 1976, Kelly was on from 3 to 6 pm. Charlie Van Dyke did the morning show, then Mark Elliott from 9 to noon, Bobby Ocean (Ray Lenhart) from noon to 3, Dr. John (John Leader) from 6 to 10 pm, J.B. Stone from 10 pm to 2 am, and Shana (LiVigni) from 2 to 6 am. Beau Weaver worked weekends. Among the contest prizes that year were two Captain Fantastic pinball machines and tickets to see Paul McCartney and the Bay City Rollers in concert---but, thankfully, not performing together. :)
 
LA Radio Rewind, thanks for the history on KABC-FM - a station I wasn't aware of. However, Earle C Anthony wasn't responsible if it was founded in 1947. Anthony did purchase an AM station in 1929 which, circa 1938, took over the frequency belonging to the Hearst owned KEHE. Anthony had purchased the latter and the related Vermont Avenue studios as part of a divestiture to help the cash-strapped William Randolph Hearst. The original 1929 station's frequency was shifted to San Diego under different ownership.

KECA, on both of its frequencies, was the NBC Blue network affiliate until the Feds forced Anthony to sell it in 1944. It retained the call letters because KABC at the time belonged to a station in San Antonio. The Blue Network, of course, became ABC. As for Anthony and FM, he did have a KFI-FM during the late forties but it did not do well commercially and surrendered its license circa 1951. Many years later, when KFI was owned by Cox, what is today KOST was acquired from the McLendon interests and became KFI's FM sister station.
 
Art, there's a scene in the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup where Rufus T. Firefly (Groucho) dictated a letter to Jamison, his secretary (Zeppo). In reading back what he had written, Jamison confessed, "You said a lot of things that I didn't think were important so I just omitted them." Well, I did the same thing---I omitted some of the details about KABC-AM. Yes, KEHE was at 780 and was owned by William Randolph Hearst. The call letters stood for Hearst's newspaper, the Evening Herald Express. In 1939, Anthony bought KEHE and moved the KECA call letters and programming from 1430 to 780. In 1941, KECA moved to 790 under the North American Radio Broadcast Agreement which re-allocated hundreds of broadcast frequencies in order to allow for more clear-channel stations. Details are on good ol' Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NARBA

The aforementioned Jim Hilliker wrote a very detailed history of the original KFI-FM. It's on the EarthSignals website:

http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/KFI-FM_History.html
 
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