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Yes, They, them, those people, that board.Chuck said:
Strangely enough HD has found solid support in a much smaller market near me, and for much different reasons: Montgomery, Alabama has a booming HD dial. There are a whopping 8 distinct subchannels available in market #151.
Of course, few actually hear these stations via HD; two feed translators, two are AM simulcasts and the other half are pubcasters. But it's still a much bigger count than we have in my market(s), where we're currently down to just three subchannels, two of which are via pubcaster.
Birmingham, as I like to point out, has also embraced HD but again to feed translators. There are 10 subchannels and of those three feed translators, all of which show up in the ratings.
But as far people actually listening via HD? I think outside of NYC, LA and Atlanta, I've not heard of more than one or two people by market or region.
Of course, few actually hear these stations via HD; two feed translators, two are AM simulcasts and the other half are pubcasters. But it's still a much bigger count than we have in my market(s), where we're currently down to just three subchannels, two of which are via pubcaster.
Birmingham, as I like to point out, has also embraced HD but again to feed translators. There are 10 subchannels and of those three feed translators, all of which show up in the ratings.
But as far people actually listening via HD? I think outside of NYC, LA and Atlanta, I've not heard of more than one or two people by market or region.
A good point which led me, and probably many others, to a philosophical epiphany many years ago.Tom Wells said:
As a Yuengster, the more radio and TV stations I could access, the more excited I got, but with an ever expanding media universe including more sources which appealed more directly to me as well as more sources which NEVER had anything to offer me, it eventually became very important to filter out what went from no stations to more than 90% of the stations. With three TV channels, I needed all of them because one had Ed Sullivan, another had Bonanza, and the third had American Bandstand, but with more than a hundred video services available to me, I have fewer than a dozen on my normal channel rotation and some of those are Music Choice channels.
As for music in my Taxi, some presets are set on dance, pop, and hip-hop for the passengers and jazz and classical for me.
I would not want to have to manually enter each station or scroll between dozens of others to go from Antonin Dvořák to Radek Dvořák.
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Its about the music. If the formats are available only on HD-2, and people want those formats, they will buy HD radios. Unfortunately, except in a few markets, the HD-2 formats have not been compelling enough to drive HD radio sales. I've got two, soon to be 3 HD radios, because the compelling formats for me are only on HD. But I also have satellite and streaming, between those three I have something to listen to. I don't care which is providing me with the format, I just care about the format.
The way corporate radio wants it: You change your musical taste and preferences to match those of the focus group they stacked to come to a foregone conclusion. You fit into one of a dozen or so format boxes perfectly. Infinite, blind loyalty to a station no matter what they are playing "listen to us for 30 days and change your life". You gladly buy HD radios so they can start selling ads on HD-2 to advertisers some day - and justify their expenditure on HD technology before their investors get wise.
The way listeners want it: You get your music, your way, any way you can get it - Pandora, iPod, streaming, satellite, HD radio, FM, DX - whatever it takes. If the station plays a clunker, hit the next preset to get a song you do like. No loyalty to the station, only loyalty to the music. You buy whatever technology it takes to get your musical preference. Thank God DX isn't the only option any more! HD is too much like DX, it is unreliable so other sources are preferable.
The way corporate radio wants it: You change your musical taste and preferences to match those of the focus group they stacked to come to a foregone conclusion. You fit into one of a dozen or so format boxes perfectly. Infinite, blind loyalty to a station no matter what they are playing "listen to us for 30 days and change your life". You gladly buy HD radios so they can start selling ads on HD-2 to advertisers some day - and justify their expenditure on HD technology before their investors get wise.
The way listeners want it: You get your music, your way, any way you can get it - Pandora, iPod, streaming, satellite, HD radio, FM, DX - whatever it takes. If the station plays a clunker, hit the next preset to get a song you do like. No loyalty to the station, only loyalty to the music. You buy whatever technology it takes to get your musical preference. Thank God DX isn't the only option any more! HD is too much like DX, it is unreliable so other sources are preferable.
Yes, and you sought out HD Radios which are difficult to find these days, you're an industry insider who posts on a discussion board for radio professionals and are plainly a believer in this indisputably troubled and controverisal technology.
Are you suggesting that you are a typical radio consumer or somehow represent a future trend for HD?
There are a lot of things which enjoy wide acceptance in New York. Naming them here would bring a moderator on the double to delete my post and issue me a warning.
Are you suggesting that you are a typical radio consumer or somehow represent a future trend for HD?
There are a lot of things which enjoy wide acceptance in New York. Naming them here would bring a moderator on the double to delete my post and issue me a warning.
I am delighted that you remember my earlier posts, thanks for tickling my ego 8)
Not sure whether your main attack is directed at me or New Yorkers or maybe both!
Sounds like you are are equating a flawed technology with a permissive northeastern liber al tine lifestyle.
Awe, go ahead, live up to your screen name and tell us some of these:
Not sure whether your main attack is directed at me or New Yorkers or maybe both!
Sounds like you are are equating a flawed technology with a permissive northeastern liber al tine lifestyle.
Awe, go ahead, live up to your screen name and tell us some of these:
Savage said:
Okay, okay. Get your ego ready. Here goes. (Moderator, how do I transmit a Monopoly "Get Out Of Jail" card electronically?)
One example might be that guy on 118th wearing the studded dog collar who's dressed up like your mother-in-law, is carrying a family-sized Vaseline and a flyswatter, and who accepts "all major credit cards." In a manner of speaking.
Oh yes: then there's the telltale earbuds. He's got a BB portable tuned to an HD sub. I think it's 92.3 HD-3, The Marquis De Sade Channel.
One example might be that guy on 118th wearing the studded dog collar who's dressed up like your mother-in-law, is carrying a family-sized Vaseline and a flyswatter, and who accepts "all major credit cards." In a manner of speaking.
Oh yes: then there's the telltale earbuds. He's got a BB portable tuned to an HD sub. I think it's 92.3 HD-3, The Marquis De Sade Channel.
My mother-in-law looks pretty bad after the worms, microbes, and dampness have taken their toll over the years.
I live and work on the far side of a bunch of other 92.3's and my reference source shows their "3" to be 660 The Fan.
Really though, iboc is admittedly an unfortunate technology, but Eureka-147 had to be suppressed, as it would have presented broadcasters with the "level playing field" they keep screaming they want. With all due respect to my beloved signature at the bottom, iboc is just another platform following a long line of radio technologies I have enjoyed coming and going across the decades, but this one offers full quieting reception from a moving vehicle.
I live and work on the far side of a bunch of other 92.3's and my reference source shows their "3" to be 660 The Fan.
Really though, iboc is admittedly an unfortunate technology, but Eureka-147 had to be suppressed, as it would have presented broadcasters with the "level playing field" they keep screaming they want. With all due respect to my beloved signature at the bottom, iboc is just another platform following a long line of radio technologies I have enjoyed coming and going across the decades, but this one offers full quieting reception from a moving vehicle.
rbrucecarter5 said:
Well stated. In Atlanta for example, we have very little left on HD that is not available on analog. Since 106.7 WYAY went all news, they turned off their HD and their HD-2, which was smooth jazz (and pretty decent). Only WSB-FM's HD-2 is drastically different (old school soft AC and not on terrestrial analog anywhere in this market). Other than that, everyone else is just using their HD as a translator feeder. And even that is questionable, as the mono horrible sound on WSTR-s HD and WWWQ its obvious they aren't feeding their translators with these muddy signals.
rbrucecarter5 said:
HD is very reliable for me. I think its just your location on the fringe of the 60 dBU signals of the HD stations you want. Because HD radio within the main coverage area of a station is very reliable.
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