THE "PAN AM" THREAD

[FilmCritic3K]

I read that there's going to be an ongoing storyline where the stewardesses/flight attendants are covertly working as spies. I forget if it was in Entertainment Weekly or elsewhere.

 

[ding12]

Hopefully we'll see 85% script and less than 15% private lives/soap
opera, cross your fingers.

I have a feeling it's going to be more soap than 15%, and ABC is intending on the gradual phase out of Desperate Housewives (as by its cancellation) and moving Pan-Am to 9pm.

 

[ding12]

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[notalkallstatic]

Sure you mean "Home Improvement"?

I remember everything being branded "Binford".

And Tim (and the show) lived in Detroit, not Chicago so WLS would not have been appropriate.

The WLS thing is just a coeincidence. See: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101120/trivia and scroll down.

I know this is off topic from the main thread, but on the trivia for Home Improvement, it says it was the last show to be videotaped. This doesn't seem correct to me. Anyone can confirm if this is true? The show went off the air in '99, and I don't think they (networks) would of been using hard drives (with tape backup) that early.

 

[DToTheJ]

...The comparisions to Mad Men (due to the time period) are inevitable...

"Playboy Club," too. And "Mad Men" once again won best drama last night.

I reckon '60's-based shows will be the new "trend," much like primetime game shows were years ago.

 

[justpassingthough]

I must say that I'm usually more into comedy than drama, but there is something
about this new ABC show that peaks my interest. It's probably the TIME TUNNEL
escapism back to the 1960's when times were a lot simpler and you weren't put
under a microscope before plane departure.

I can only hope that PAN AM turns into a regular show and not a soap opera, because
that would kill it for me. Hopefully we'll see 85% script and less than 15% private lives/soap
opera, cross your fingers.

Its funny how nearly 50 years later and nostalgia has taken over. The 1960s were actually the era of the Cold War, the Great Society, the sexual revolution, the Kennedy assassination and the Civil Rights movement- just to name a few enduring events- they were equally, if not more, tumultous than current times.

With that said, who isn't a sucker for nostalgia? I'm guessing "Pan Am" gets high tune in at first, but the stories will have to remain intriguing to keep people around.

 

[vchimpanzee]

I'm going to try it. If for no other reason than it's about a different era.

 

[firepoint525]

...The comparisions to Mad Men (due to the time period) are inevitable...

"Playboy Club," too. And "Mad Men" once again won best drama last night.
I reckon '60's-based shows will be the new "trend," much like primetime game shows were years ago.

Does this mean that American Dreams was ahead of its time? ;D

 

[secondchoice]

Who owns the Pan Am logo? I am sure that company is getting mega bucks for its use. I know that Delta Air Lines purchased a great portion of Pan Am's company back in the early 90's when I worked there, but I was not sure if Delta still owned the rights.

The Guilford Railroad "the old B & M" own's the Pam AM logo and uses the Pam AM name


http://www.guilfordrail.com

 

[landtuna]

I'm going to try it. If for no other reason than it's about a different era.

It's going to be interesting to see the young adults of today react to how flying used to be in the 60's. Suits for both men and women, hats, no security, drinks and full meals...on china! They probably won't believe it.

 

[recto101]

The previews of this show looked interesting and I may check it out. Also if you remember ABC's hit sitcom "Home Improvement" every product was branded "WLS" from grocery bags to a tractor trailer Tim Allen's character drove in one episode to help his mother move. WLS of course is ABC's O&O Channel 7 in Chicago. The WLS calls are also on 2 Citadel Cumulus owned radio stations in Chicago too. 94.7 which is The True Oldies Channel and 890 AM which is news/talk. They of course used to be owned by ABC too.

Tim allen wore the WXYZ 7 sweatshirt one time on Home Improvement in the 1990's

 

[recto101]

Also when you tell a 25 year old person like me what "Pan Am" is I would end up saying the one in 1988 where the Libyan Government under Ghadaffi hijacked the plane and caused people to die in Lockerbee. I would never think of the Pan am as the airline that got America interested in flying or have this "Catch me if you can" Image. I assocaite it when it went Bankrupt some time after the Lockerbee incident.

 

[Silkie]

I'm going to try it. If for no other reason than it's about a different era.

It's going to be interesting to see the young adults of today react to how flying used to be in the 60's. Suits for both men and women, hats, no security, drinks and full meals...on china! They probably won't believe it.

Yep, class and dignity all the way, as I recall it. I was just a kid in the 60s, but I remember flights with my parents. When they ordered a cocktail it was made well. The stewardesses (yes, stewards and stewardesses) checked to see if you needed a pillow on a long flight - even into the 70s and 80s, and made sure you were comfortable. Depending on the time of day, the meal was indeed served on china. Same with train stations and bus depots, where blue willow china or buffalo ware were used, along with cloth napkins and decent flatware.

Young peoplel today need to see what they missed, because they indeed missed a lot.

 

[searadiofreak]

I'm going to try it. If for no other reason than it's about a different era.

It's going to be interesting to see the young adults of today react to how flying used to be in the 60's. Suits for both men and women, hats, no security, drinks and full meals...on china! They probably won't believe it.

Yep, class and dignity all the way, as I recall it. I was just a kid in the 60s, but I remember flights with my parents. When they ordered a cocktail it was made well. The stewardesses (yes, stewards and stewardesses) checked to see if you needed a pillow on a long flight - even into the 70s and 80s, and made sure you were comfortable. Depending on the time of day, the meal was indeed served on china. Same with train stations and bus depots, where blue willow china or buffalo ware were used, along with cloth napkins and decent flatware.

Young peoplel today need to see what they missed, because they indeed missed a lot.

Indeed! I was on coach on a Northwest Orient Seattle to Hawaii flight in 1972, as a 13 year old.. Cocktails within 30 minutes in the air, of course not for me. Nice full lunch, and and as we approached the islands, a "hot towel". That is what I remember, a "hot towel". Wow.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

Anyone who remembers when flying was a special occasion is probably outside the networks target demographics?

 

[searadiofreak]

Anyone who remembers when flying was a special occasion is probably outside the networks target demographics?

Well, maybe, but as a 52 year old, I will probably watch. Whether I'm in the target, not sure. If what you are saying is younger viewers will watch to see what "was was", then yes, you are correct. I think the upper demos will add to the audience, perhaps not as a target, but as in my case, an upper target audience, not to be totally discounted.

 

[Silkie]

I'm going to try it. If for no other reason than it's about a different era.

It's going to be interesting to see the young adults of today react to how flying used to be in the 60's. Suits for both men and women, hats, no security, drinks and full meals...on china! They probably won't believe it.

Yep, class and dignity all the way, as I recall it. I was just a kid in the 60s, but I remember flights with my parents. When they ordered a cocktail it was made well. The stewardesses (yes, stewards and stewardesses) checked to see if you needed a pillow on a long flight - even into the 70s and 80s, and made sure you were comfortable. Depending on the time of day, the meal was indeed served on china. Same with train stations and bus depots, where blue willow china or buffalo ware were used, along with cloth napkins and decent flatware.

Young peoplel today need to see what they missed, because they indeed missed a lot.

Indeed! I was on coach on a Northwest Orient Seattle to Hawaii flight in 1972, as a 13 year old.. Cocktails within 30 minutes in the air, of course not for me. Nice full lunch, and and as we approached the islands, a "hot towel". That is what I remember, a "hot towel". Wow.

And that was coach.

 

[dhett]

While everyone is waxing nostalgic for the 1960s, remember also that flying was a luxury. It cost a lot of money. Pay a first-class fare - which, after adjusting for inflation, is probably comparable to flying then - and you'll get similar treatment.

 

[MarcB]

Also when you tell a 25 year old person like me what "Pan Am" is I would end up saying the one in 1988 where the Libyan Government under Ghadaffi hijacked the plane and caused people to die in Lockerbee. I would never think of the Pan am as the airline that got America interested in flying or have this "Catch me if you can" Image. I assocaite it when it went Bankrupt some time after the Lockerbee incident.

You know I think I used to have on video a promo of the WNYW 10PM News from the night that happened. It happened right around Christmas and the video I had was the movie "Yogi Bear's First Christmas." I should've kept that tape. Son of a gun.

 

[recto101]

Anyone who remembers when flying was a special occasion is probably outside the networks target demographics?

But wait most of the Network younger target demographics like 20-30 that want to see the PanAm show would be shocked because when most of them are told "Pan Am" we tend to think of the Ghadaffi incident in 1988. The Show will be interesting to see because I would want to know what the travel industry was like 23 years before the Ghadaffi incident. I'm shocked that Pan Am or the entire industry did not implement high security in 1965 when the Vietnam War started or when DB Cooper hijacked the plane in 1971. I heard that Libya and Iran tended to hijack plane's alot in the 1970's and 1980's prior to the 1988 incident and they ask for ransom for the release of hostages before 1988. Prior to that I would hear stories by my parents on how the world looked perfect to them in the 1950's and 1960's.