As I was reading the thread on forgotten comic gilbert godfried it had me thinking about these two funny and talented comedians in like what happened? I mean why have they disappeared from our subconscious? I think it says more about us than it does about them is it because we use people for our own entertainment and then discard them, It's sort of like a mother buys her child a toy the child plays with the toy every day for weeks then all of a sudden she notices the toy sitting under a table accross the room for days she then realizes the child has no use for it anymore. It's something to think about.
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THE PAULA POUNDSTONE + RITA RUDNOR EFFECT.............
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I haven't followed Rudner, but Paula Poundstone still appears at comedy clubs, and is a regular on NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, which airs weekends - new shows in Sundays and repeats the following Saturday. If you've never heard it, you should check it out. It's fall on the floor - pee in your pants funny.
Remember that many formerly "popular" performers fall off the TV publicity grid, but that doesn't mean they've been forgotten. Many established performers, especially singers and comedians - continue to make big money with live appearances in places like Vegas, Reno, and Branson, Missouri.
Also, there's this new thing called the internet. Generally, all you have to do is google their names and you'll find dozens of citations, including their personal websites, which will tell you what they're doing and where they're playing.
Speaking of which, heerrrrrrees Rita: http://www.ritafunny.com/
It took me 30 seconds to find out that she has a regular gig at The Venetian in Vegas, and PBS runs her shows regularly, dates and stations listed. I bet she makes a half-million bucks a year or more. If that's being "discarded," somebody please throw me away...
Remember that many formerly "popular" performers fall off the TV publicity grid, but that doesn't mean they've been forgotten. Many established performers, especially singers and comedians - continue to make big money with live appearances in places like Vegas, Reno, and Branson, Missouri.
Also, there's this new thing called the internet. Generally, all you have to do is google their names and you'll find dozens of citations, including their personal websites, which will tell you what they're doing and where they're playing.
Speaking of which, heerrrrrrees Rita: http://www.ritafunny.com/
It took me 30 seconds to find out that she has a regular gig at The Venetian in Vegas, and PBS runs her shows regularly, dates and stations listed. I bet she makes a half-million bucks a year or more. If that's being "discarded," somebody please throw me away...
Just like I tell my kids all the time:
Just because you didn't see something happen, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Especially if you're waiting for tv or newspapers to tell you that it happened. There is a lag time before they cover every celebrity, even if they covered them ad nauseum a few years ago.
Just because you didn't see something happen, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Especially if you're waiting for tv or newspapers to tell you that it happened. There is a lag time before they cover every celebrity, even if they covered them ad nauseum a few years ago.
...which pretty much indicates the prosecution didn't have the evidence to take to trial in the first place. Same with Woody Allen. You can't convince me a prosecuting attorney wouldn't do anything they could to get a celebrity's scalp on his/her belt; that's been the standard since they tried (and failed) to railroad Fatty Arbuckle in 1921...Mark said:
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Poundstone had a drinking problem, and acted like an idiot. There wasn't enough evidence for any kind of lewd behavior or sexual assault charges. I believe the child in question was one of her adopted daughters. She got custody back after substance abuse intervention, and a big fat apology. It's over, forget about it.
We should all remember the lifespan of comics. They generally get well known in the comedy clubs, get some stand-up gigs on late night talk shows, then if they're very lucky - they get a sitcom pilot. Chances are probably 10 to 1 against the sitcom even being sold to a network, much less being a ratings success. If they're EXTREMELY lucky and talented, they go on to a fame and super-fortune. That's probably one in a thousand.
Frankly, I never thought Jerry Seinfeld's stand-up material was very funny, so I'd say he was one of the EXTREMELY lucky ones. Hooking up with Larry David may have been just luck, or a smart move - hard to say.
So 90% of comics are like Poundstone & Rudner, who more or less disappear from TV, but often still have very successful careers.
We should all remember the lifespan of comics. They generally get well known in the comedy clubs, get some stand-up gigs on late night talk shows, then if they're very lucky - they get a sitcom pilot. Chances are probably 10 to 1 against the sitcom even being sold to a network, much less being a ratings success. If they're EXTREMELY lucky and talented, they go on to a fame and super-fortune. That's probably one in a thousand.
Frankly, I never thought Jerry Seinfeld's stand-up material was very funny, so I'd say he was one of the EXTREMELY lucky ones. Hooking up with Larry David may have been just luck, or a smart move - hard to say.
So 90% of comics are like Poundstone & Rudner, who more or less disappear from TV, but often still have very successful careers.
Re: THE PAULA POUNDSTONE + RITA RUDNER EFFECT.............
...another example would be Kelly Monteith. 25-30 years back, he was almost always on with Carson, Letterman and Griffin, and his BBC sitcom was an early staple of A&E's schedule. Even made the college circuit (I met him when he did a show at UW-Oshkosh circa '78). Haven't seen him in at least 20 years anywhere on the tube. He's still yakkin', tho -- http://www.kellymonteith.com/kellymonteith/Home.html...Lkeller said:
I would say a majority of the comedian-turned-actors became known enough to carry their own show was because of Comedy Central's original format (a carry-over from the merger of The Comedy Channel and Ha!) which was more-or-less short clips of stand-up routines filmed at the various comedy clubs around the country.
At least for me, that was how I found out about Rudner, Poundstone, Brett Butler and Ray Romano among others.
The half-hour one-person shows they air now aren't nearly as entertaining as the combo of short clips from multiple comedians (or even 3-person acts showcased during their original shows like "The A List" and "2 Drink Minimum").
At least for me, that was how I found out about Rudner, Poundstone, Brett Butler and Ray Romano among others.
The half-hour one-person shows they air now aren't nearly as entertaining as the combo of short clips from multiple comedians (or even 3-person acts showcased during their original shows like "The A List" and "2 Drink Minimum").
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