The Price is Wrong, B***h!!!!

[ynot2k]

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/09/Worldandnation/TV_show_s_prize__A_tr.shtml

TV show's prize: A trip to New Orleans
By Times staff writers
Published September 9, 2005

A ripple in the blogosphere on Thursday.

Observant channel flippers and game show fans noticed that one of the big prizes on today's airing of The Price Is Right was a ski boat - and a trip to New Orleans.

Most bloggers commented on the cruel irony of such a prize. Some linked to www.thepriceisright.tk a database of episodes from the Price is Right yes, there is such a thing. According to the database, Thursday's show originally aired on Dec. 7, 2004. Neither contestant in the Showcase Showdown won the trip.

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and the New York Daily News says it ran in the East, Central and Mountain Time Zones before "mortified network execs killed it for the West Coast."

 

[rugrats1]

> TV show's prize: A trip to New Orleans
> By Times staff writers
> Published September 9, 2005
>
> Neither contestant in the Showcase Showdown
> won the trip.

That's because they were spinning the big wheel in the "Showcase Showdown" -- the trips and other prizes are in the "Showcase", no "Showdown".

> and the New York Daily News says it ran in the East, Central
> and Mountain Time Zones before "mortified network execs
> killed it for the West Coast."
>
That was true -- those on the west coast saw another episode instead.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by rugrats1 on 09/09/05 04:03 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[WLYNWAZNgm]

the problem with reruns and stock footage

What about any movie or TV show shot in NYC over a 30-year period that shows
the World Trade Center towers? Should all of those scenes be edited out?
If so, who decides? Whatever decision is made, many people would take issue with it...

 

[buster2]

Re: the problem with reruns and stock footage

> What about any movie or TV show shot in NYC over a 30-year
> period that shows
> the World Trade Center towers? Should all of those scenes be
> edited out?
> If so, who decides? Whatever decision is made, many people
> would take issue with it...
>

That's a different argument entirely.

Erasing the WTC towers would make no sense because they were a part of the city's existence for many years.

I do recall, though, that when "Spiderman" came out, the poster ads contained a photo of the towers and those were removed since they had just been destroyed. Since the story was ostensibly set in contemporary times, it made sense to not refer to what no longer existed.

I was watching "Godspell" on video a few months ago. I had never seen it before. There is a very long sequence in the middle of the film where the characters are running around NYC and end up playing on top of one of the towers. The building was almost completed, but still under construction. It was very sad to contemplate those new towers and think of what would happen to them in just under 30 years.

That said, I do understand when re-runs of shows like "Law & Order" delete scenes of the towers. I think that has more to do with the producers trying to maintain a sense of timelessness for the shows as opposed to sensitivity to the fact the buildings are gone.

 

[ynot2k]

Re: the problem with reruns and stock footage

> What about any movie or TV show shot in NYC over a 30-year
> period that shows
> the World Trade Center towers? Should all of those scenes be
> edited out?
> If so, who decides? Whatever decision is made, many people
> would take issue with it...
>
I think it's the age old idea of "timing plus tragedy."

If I recall correctly, it took about 2 years until at least some of the stations carrying Simpsons reruns ran the World Trade Center episode.

While I didn't think Price is Right did reruns (yes, I figured they'd tape enough episodes to run new ones all year), I'd figure they'd do the same as a "regular" tv show, identify the ones with New Orleans related trips in there, put them aside, and then run them again in a few months or years once the "timing" was better and the city wasn't still under water.

 

[Jets885sports]

http://www.sptim> es.com/2005/09/09/Worldandnation/TV_show_s_prize__A_tr.shtml
>
>
> TV show's prize: A trip to New Orleans
> By Times staff writers
> Published September 9, 2005
>
> A ripple in the blogosphere on Thursday.
>
> Observant channel flippers and game show fans noticed that
> one of the big prizes on today's airing of The Price Is
> Right was a ski boat - and a trip to New Orleans.
>
> Most bloggers commented on the cruel irony of such a prize.
> Some linked to www.thepriceisright.tk a database of episodes
> from the Price is Right yes, there is such a thing.
> According to the database, Thursday's show originally aired
> on Dec. 7, 2004. Neither contestant in the Showcase Showdown
> won the trip.
>
> ***************
> and the New York Daily News says it ran in the East, Central
> and Mountain Time Zones before "mortified network execs
> killed it for the West Coast."
>
I NEVER knew TPIR ran reruns! I thought every episode was live because I never saw reruns. So are these so called "summer reruns"?

 

[Braves2005]

Re: The Price Is Right Reruns In The Summer

>
> While I didn't think Price is Right did reruns (yes, I
> figured they'd tape enough episodes to run new ones all
> year), I'd figure they'd do the same as a "regular" tv show

The Price Is Right,Wheel Of Fortune,Jeopardy,Family Feud have always shown reruns in the summer. I can stand The Price Is Right,Wheel Of Fortune,and Family Feud being seen in reruns in the summer,but this year I couldn't stand Jeopardy being rerun and them showing the reruns of Ken Jennings winning and the ulitimate outcome being shown and then the Ultimate Tournament Of Champions where Ken Jennings loses to Brad and now Brad is the top winner of Jeopardy and not Ken Jennings.

I can't wait until Monday,when Wheel,Jeopardy and Family Feud return,and next Monday(September 19th) when The Price Is Right returns.

 

[clichemoth]

Re: The Price Is Right Reruns In The Summer

> >
> > While I didn't think Price is Right did reruns (yes, I
> > figured they'd tape enough episodes to run new ones all
> > year), I'd figure they'd do the same as a "regular" tv
> show
>
> The Price Is Right,Wheel Of Fortune,Jeopardy,Family Feud
> have always shown reruns in the summer. I can stand The
> Price Is Right,Wheel Of Fortune,and Family Feud being seen
> in reruns in the summer,but this year I couldn't stand
> Jeopardy being rerun and them showing the reruns of Ken
> Jennings winning and the ulitimate outcome being shown and
> then the Ultimate Tournament Of Champions where Ken Jennings
> loses to Brad and now Brad is the top winner of Jeopardy and
> not Ken Jennings.
>
> I can't wait until Monday,when Wheel,Jeopardy and Family
> Feud return,and next Monday(September 19th) when The Price
> Is Right returns.

Will the winner from last season's final episode of Jeopardy return as the champion in this season's opener like Jennings did or was that a special situation because his streak was so long and really good for the ratings?

I don't recall it ever happening before him, although I could be wrong and they've always done it . . .



>

 

[RockManAC]

Re: the problem with reruns and stock footage

> I do recall, though, that when "Spiderman" came out, the
> poster ads contained a photo of the towers and those were
> removed since they had just been destroyed. Since the story
> was ostensibly set in contemporary times, it made sense to
> not refer to what no longer existed.

I thought the whole movie had to be redone because they blew up the towers in the movie.

-A<P ID="signature">______________

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[RockManAC]

> I NEVER knew TPIR ran reruns! I thought every episode was
> live because I never saw reruns. So are these so called
> "summer reruns"?
>

TPIR isn't even done live to my knowledge... I believe it's "live to tape" much like Jeopardy! and Wheel are.

Now.. Idk if TPIR calls it "summer re-runs" but I know J! and Wheel do.

-A<P ID="signature">______________

</P>

 

[Braves2005]

Re: The Price Is Right Reruns In The Summer

>
> Will the winner from last season's final episode of Jeopardy
> return as the champion in this season's opener like Jennings
> did or was that a special situation because his streak was
> so long and really good for the ratings?
>
> I don't recall it ever happening before him, although I
> could be wrong and they've always done it . . .

Yes,David Madden comes back Monday(the 22nd season opener) to see if he can extend his winning streak and tries to break Ken Jennings' streak and Brad's money total.

Apparently,the reason that they showed the 5 best episodes of Ken Jennings' run(which I felt was wrong,GSN should have run the whole 75 episodes of his run since GSN has rights to the reruns of Jeopardy,be that as it may) was because people might have missed it. But so many people know the outcome of Ken Jennings' streak,why show it again and again where when he loses he slaps the podium and the ooh's and aah's coming from the audience? And that is the only time it has happen unless David Madden eclipses Ken's run and we see the 5 best episodes of David's run on the next rerun cycle of Jeopardy in the summer of 2006.

 

[clichemoth]

Re: The Price Is Right Reruns In The Summer

> >
> > Will the winner from last season's final episode of
> Jeopardy
> > return as the champion in this season's opener like
> Jennings
> > did or was that a special situation because his streak was
>
> > so long and really good for the ratings?
> >
> > I don't recall it ever happening before him, although I
> > could be wrong and they've always done it . . .
>
> Yes,David Madden comes back Monday(the 22nd season opener)
> to see if he can extend his winning streak and tries to
> break Ken Jennings' streak and Brad's money total.
>
> Apparently,the reason that they showed the 5 best episodes
> of Ken Jennings' run(which I felt was wrong,GSN should have
> run the whole 75 episodes of his run since GSN has rights to
> the reruns of Jeopardy,be that as it may) was because people
> might have missed it. But so many people know the outcome of
> Ken Jennings' streak,why show it again and again where when
> he loses he slaps the podium and the ooh's and aah's coming
> from the audience? And that is the only time it has happen
> unless David Madden eclipses Ken's run and we see the 5 best
> episodes of David's run on the next rerun cycle of Jeopardy
> in the summer of 2006.
>

Nobody will ever win 80+ times in a row like Jennings did. IIRC, the second-longest run is only 9. He couldn't have done it without a long stretch of sub-par opponents. I mean, there are very few people who could have done as well as him, or Brad, Chuck Forrest, etc., but anyone close to his knowledge level and a bit quicker on the buzzer would have cleaned his clock at any point during that run.

 

[KML0224]

Re: the problem with reruns and stock footage

> I thought the whole movie had to be redone because they blew
> up the towers in the movie.
>
> -A
>

Actually, I think there was a fight sequence where Spidey was suspended on his web between the two towers.

 

[HomerJay]

This is absolute, utter nonsense. By all means, let's search the archives of every flipping TV show ever to have aired and not run any with a reference to New Orleans.

On the same day the TPIR episode ran, the Fox affiliate in Philadelphia ran the "Spinoff Showcase" episode of "The Simpsons," with one entire segment set in New Orleans. Last week there was a Jeopardy rerun with a contestant from New Orleans.

For crying out loud, they're just entertainment shows, and revisionist history in trying to make them go away is silly at best and frightening at worst.

So the problem is one short prize reference on a game show rerun might make viewers feel uncomfortable? About what? New Orleans was...and I feel certian will be again in some number of years...a tourist destination. The tragic situation doesn't change facts.

Unbelievable.



http://www.sptim> es.com/2005/09/09/Worldandnation/TV_show_s_prize__A_tr.shtml
>
>
> TV show's prize: A trip to New Orleans
> By Times staff writers
> Published September 9, 2005
>
> A ripple in the blogosphere on Thursday.
>
> Observant channel flippers and game show fans noticed that
> one of the big prizes on today's airing of The Price Is
> Right was a ski boat - and a trip to New Orleans.
>
> Most bloggers commented on the cruel irony of such a prize.
> Some linked to www.thepriceisright.tk a database of episodes
> from the Price is Right yes, there is such a thing.
> According to the database, Thursday's show originally aired
> on Dec. 7, 2004. Neither contestant in the Showcase Showdown
> won the trip.
>
> ***************
> and the New York Daily News says it ran in the East, Central
> and Mountain Time Zones before "mortified network execs
> killed it for the West Coast."
>

 

[HomerJay]

Re: The Price Is Right Reruns In The Summer

> >
>
> Nobody will ever win 80+ times in a row like Jennings did.
> IIRC, the second-longest run is only 9. He couldn't have
> done it without a long stretch of sub-par opponents. I
> mean, there are very few people who could have done as well
> as him, or Brad, Chuck Forrest, etc., but anyone close to
> his knowledge level and a bit quicker on the buzzer would
> have cleaned his clock at any point during that run.
>
I think David Madden is already beyond 9 games. Pre-Jennings, the strak after the 5 day cap was lifted was something like 7 games.

I thought it was a great idea for Jeopardy to fill one of their designated rerun weeks with a best-of Jennings week. Every other summer, it's nothing but the tournaments...kids, college, champions...year after year. The collection of the milestones was unique though I have a major rant with WPVI in Philadelphia for NOT rescheduling the final of the five episodes last week. I understand completely that World News Tonight expanded to an hour, but there was no good reason not to (A) push Jeopardy and its finale to a themed week to 7:30, bumping a meaningless Wheel rerun or (B) reschedule Jeopardy to overnight or weekend dead time (come on, surely ONE of those "Perspective" episodes could have gone away) and run a crawl pointing viewers to the new time.

 

[KMRichards]

The Prize is Wrong

I'm surprised none of you thought of that as the subject line for this thread.<P ID="signature">______________


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[ynot2k]

Re: The Prize is Wrong

> I'm surprised none of you thought of that as the subject
> line for this thread.
>
I was going with the Happy Gilmore reference which I thought was funnier.

 

[houstonradiogeek]

AMEN, BROTHER!

> This is absolute, utter nonsense. By all means, let's
> search the archives of every flipping TV show ever to have
> aired and not run any with a reference to New Orleans.
>
> On the same day the TPIR episode ran, the Fox affiliate in
> Philadelphia ran the "Spinoff Showcase" episode of "The
> Simpsons," with one entire segment set in New Orleans.
> Last week there was a Jeopardy rerun with a contestant from
> New Orleans.
>
> For crying out loud, they're just entertainment shows, and
> revisionist history in trying to make them go away is silly
> at best and frightening at worst.
>
> So the problem is one short prize reference on a game show
> rerun might make viewers feel uncomfortable? About what?
> New Orleans was...and I feel certian will be again in some
> number of years...a tourist destination. The tragic
> situation doesn't change facts.
>
> Unbelievable.<P ID="signature">______________
I listen to what I like.
Ratings be Damned.</P>

 

[HomerJay]

> AMEN, BROTHER!
>
Gracias.

The more I thought about it, I can take the whole concept a step further. As the tragedy of Katrina unfolded, I was on a long-planned mid-week visit to Atlantic City's Showboat casino. As anyone who has been there knows, the facility takes it's entire theme from New Orleans and Mardi Gras, from the Canal Street Bakery sandwich shop to the French Quarter buffet; from strolling jazz bands to New Orleans street signs marking the rows on the casino floor; from giving out beads to visitors to the architecture.

Was it ironic and a bit strange to be there, of all places, as I saw images of the real Canal Street on TV? Of course it was. Reminders of something lost will always feel strange. "The Simpsons" Twin Towers episode was mentioned elsewhere on this thread, and to this day, yes, there's a bit of a funny feeling watching that episode, just as there is seeing old NYPD Blue episodes with the WTC in them. But I don't suggest taking those references out, any more than the Showboat should immediately rip down all of their signs and change the theme to something else.

Morever, what's the criteria we use to determine how "big" of a tragedy warrants scouring game shows for 30-second prize plugs and cartoons for offensive references? Here in the Philadelphia area, there have been a number of flash flood situations, some in my own township, that have caused neighborhoods to be essentially washed away, homes destroyed and, yes, people killed. Clearly, and most thankfully, not even a minute fraction of the losses in the Gulf Coast, but when it's *your* house and all Earthly possessions that are destroyed, or it's *your* job lost because the company you work for can't recover from the flood, or it's *your* family memeber who perishes, the loss is no less significant if it's shared by one other person, 100 other people or 100,000 other people. So, with that flooding reference in mind, should the local station never show the Simpsons episode in which Homer floods Springfield? Some people may always have a negative reaction to that scene, and see no humor in the idea of streets flooded to their rooftops.

Do we only institute these cautions if the numbers of those affected is at least four digits? Five digits?

I'll take it down to an even more personal level. When the news about John Ritter's death broke, I was stunned to hear it was an aortic dissection. Less than three months earlier, my own father passed away suddenly from the same condition. When "8 Simple Rules" moved forward and addressed the death of Ritter's character, I found it deeply upsetting, given the connection to my life. But would I suggest ABC was insensitive to the tens of thousands of people who have lost a loved one to that condition over the years? Would I advocate them stopping the show? Absolutely not.

We do a disservice to the spirit of the people and the city involved in tragedies when we overreact to forms of entertainment that referenced them. Even if we don't know yet what the future of New Orleans looks like, we can certainly take pride in its past, and not assume a game show rerun is going to cause mass distress.

 

[tanim_95]

> > I NEVER knew TPIR ran reruns! I thought every episode was
> > live because I never saw reruns. So are these so called
> > "summer reruns"?
> >
>
> TPIR isn't even done live to my knowledge... I believe it's
> "live to tape" much like Jeopardy! and Wheel are.

You are correct. I'm quite certain that TPIR (at least the Barker version) has NEVER aired live. The Season 34 premiere (which airs on 9/19) was recorded several months ago (in June, I believe.)