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The Programming Disputes Thread

Jonathan7157 said:
At the same time as NFL has a dispute with the same provider (Dish), first time in it's history that it had disputes with 2 companies at the same time.
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companies with cable stations? yes
overall? no. Dish has had disputes with multiple companies that own local stations before.
 
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/ne...st-complaint-response-exercise-evasion/157668

Heres another Contract dispute.

That came in its reply to Comcast's June 8 response to Liberman's April 8 program carriage complaint.
In a filing June 7, Comcast told the FCC that Liberman Broadcasting's (LBI) program carriage complaint related to the MVPD's dropping of three TV stations fails on three grounds: 1) As a broadcast network (Estrella TV), Liberman is not authorized to bring a carriage complaint, which is confined to cable networks (Comcast's negotiations were instead covered by must-carry, retrans regime); 2) Comcast's request for digital distribution rights as a condition of carriage is not a demand for a financial interest in Estrella; and 3) the complaint was filed beyond the statute of limitations.
LBI argues that it has presented "clear and compelling evidence" that Comcast discriminated against Estrella TV to favor its Spanish-language networks, Telemundo and NBC Universo, including by "unlawfully" demanding digital rights. It claims Comcast is in violation both of program carriage rules and NBCU deal conditions.
In its June 27 reply comments, Liberman said nothing Comcast said changes the fact that there is a "clear" case for a full FCC hearing.
It said it clearly meets the definition of a video program vendor eligible to bring a complaint given that Estrella TV produces most of its own programming. It also said it remained clear that Comcast "unlawfully required LBI relinquish the digital rights to its own content as a condition of carriage."
And while Comcast said it had simply made a reasonable decision not to carry the network and that it was not related to favoring its own nets, Liberman said that didn't wash, either.
"Comcast’s treatment of Estrella TV does not reflect a rational commercial negotiation," it told the FCC, "as evidenced by distribution agreements Estrella TV has in place with every other major MVPD in the country. Only Comcast has refused to reach a fair deal to carry Estrella because only Comcast owns two competitor networks.
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What I mean is Dish having 2 disputes happening at the same time, like DISH is dispute with both NFL and Tribune at the same time. I think that Dish may become bankrupt if they keep having excessive disputes. Maybe one day, almost all their channels will be unavailable because of disputes, and almost all Dish subscribers will switch to other options, like DirecTV, which still has disputes, but not that many, like a decent amount, and most of DirectTV/AT&T's disputes usually get resolved quicker than Dish, which makes customers stick with DirecTV after a dispute, because it will be resolved eventually, in a few days, even hours, instead of almost a month.

Speaking of DirecTV, if there is a dispute with DirecTV, then are U-Verse customers affected too and vice versa?

Also, what is Scripps (not the one that owns HGTV, etc, but the original one that owns WXYZ, among others) method that keeps them away from disputes by cable and satellite companies, including DISH, because I haven't heard of Scripps ever being in a dispute, beside the Scripps Networks cable stations.

What about cable networks, like Bay News 9, which is only on Bright House. What if Bay News 9 gets in a dispute with BHN, will they shut them down forever, despite being one of the best news stations in the market?

Although I have never heard of a PBS station being in a dispute with Dish until today, which was when KENW-TV in Portales, NM, was in a dispute with not only them, but Nielsen, because they want to stay in the Albuquerque market instead of the Amarillo market and says that Portales may have lost them on satellite if Nielsen moves Eastern New Mexico to the Amarillo Market. Why stay in ABQ? Because most of KENW's translators are in New Mexico and not in the Texas Panhandle. Thankfully, Dish, Direct, and Nielsen listened, but they still moved it to Amarillo anyways, but later moved it back to the ABQ market and they left the Portales area alone from that point on.
 
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Jonathan7157 said:
Speaking of DirecTV, if there is a dispute with DirecTV, then are U-Verse customers affected too and vice versa?
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no as the contracts are different for each service. But AT&T is phasing out U-Verse

What about cable networks, like Bay News 9, which is only on Bright House. What if Bay News 9 gets in a dispute with BHN, will they shut them down forever, despite being one of the best news stations in the market?
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Bay News 9 is owned by.....Bright House (now Charter)...so I doubt there would be a dispute when both the system and the channel are owned by the same people. That would be like Comcast yanking USA, SyFy and Bravo from the Comcast systems ;)


Although I have never heard of a PBS station being in a dispute with Dish until today, which was when KENW-TV in Portales, NM, was in a dispute with not only them, but Nielsen, because they want to stay in the Albuquerque market instead of the Amarillo market and says that Portales may have lost them on satellite if Nielsen moves Eastern New Mexico to the Amarillo Market. Why stay in ABQ? Because most of KENW's translators are in New Mexico and not in the Texas Panhandle. Thankfully, Dish, Direct, and Nielsen listened, but they still moved it to Amarillo anyways, but later moved it back to the ABQ market and they left the Portales area alone from that point on.
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The rule with satellite and PBS seems to be if they (PBS) can get a good signal to the POP then it can be carried. That was the issue in Minneapolis DMA where there is technically 5 PBS stations. KTCA & KTCI in Minneapolis, KWCM in Appleton (about 150 miles from Mpls), KAWE Bemidji (about 200 miles away) and WHWC in Menominee, WI. Even though WHWC serves Eau Claire, their license is in Dunn County which is the eastern part of the Mpls DMA. They gave up their "must carry rights" for Minneapolis. KAWE got a fibre connection from their satellite station in Brainerd to Minneapolis to be carried back in 04 (Mpls launched in 99 with Big 4 and the rest did early 02) and finally upgraded to HD early 2015. KWCM came aboard on Dish and Directv in early 2015. They talked about the money and the hoops to jump through to carry it
http://www.pioneer.org/news/pioneer-now-on-dish-network-in-twin-cities-directv-coming-soon

The NM PBS was a unique situation because they DID get dropped from the ALBQ market when Nielsen moved that part to Amarillo. Cable and satellite have different rules for PBS. Cable can carry neighboring PBS if it is feasible or if there is no PBS in the market. Satellite has to follow different rules of they can only carry in market PBS stations. If there is no PBS in the market then they give you the national feed. As example Mankato, MN has only CBS & FOX (1 station market). Cable imports PBS from Minneapolis and from Austin/Rochester (2 different markets). Satellite gives them the national feed.
 
Univision is in another dispute. This time, with Charter, and this affects me, because I don't know if the Entravision stations are affected. And what will happen to the UniMas stations half-owned by Entravision and half-owned by Univision, like WFTT-TV Channel 50? Why this affects me, because I have Bright House and that's probably soon going to be Charter or already is Charter, I don't know, so because Time Warner/BHN/Charter merger is done, what will happen to Time Warner/Bright House customers.
 
Dish/Meredith Dispute

In a move that should surprise absolutely no one, Dish Network is having yet another pissing contest with a broadcaster, this time with Meredith. Both azfamily.com and cbs5az.com have The Warning on their websites. If Dish is true to form, expect both stations to be gone on Saturday.

Makes me glad yet again that I have DirecTV. ;)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/32429400/will-dish-drop-ktvk-from-its-lineup
 
Be happy you dont live in Hartford or Springfield, Mass.

Hartford...Lost FOX & CW (Tribune)...may lose CBS (Meredith)

Springfield is worse off
Lost...nothing yet...may lose CBS, ABC AND FOX! (all owned by Meredith. ABC is -1, FOX -2, CBS is on a LP station)
 
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unclehonkey said:
Be happy you dont live in Hartford or Springfield, Mass.

Hartford...Lost FOX & CW (Tribune)...may lose CBS (Meredith)

Springfield is worse off
Lost...nothing yet...may lose CBS, ABC AND FOX! (all owned by Meredith. ABC is -1, FOX -2, CBS is on a LP station)

Since the markets are only like 35 miles apart from each other, hey we'll just tune into the other market...oh wait...other than ABC that can't happen
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Not as bad as Traverse City, MI, where at one point last year, all of their Big Four were gone at the same time off Dish Network (NBC/ABC owned by Sinclair and CBS/FOX locally owned)

One good thing about Hartford and Springfield: Those markets are small enough (in area) that an indoor antenna would work in many areas of each market
 
ftballfan said:
One good thing about Hartford and Springfield: Those markets are small enough (in area) that an indoor antenna would work in many areas of each market
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very true. I had to edit my post as I was thinking one thing and typed another (brain wandered off....still trying to find it)
 
unclehonkey said:
Be happy you dont live in Hartford or Springfield, Mass.

Hartford...Lost FOX & CW (Tribune)...may lose CBS (Meredith)

Springfield is worse off
Lost...nothing yet...may lose CBS, ABC AND FOX! (all owned by Meredith. ABC is -1, FOX -2, CBS is on a LP station)
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What's next?! Dish in dispute with the NBC O&Os (WVIT) and/or Media General/Nexstar (WWLP/WFXQ Springfield and WTNH/WCTX)?! The whole Hartford/Springfield market will be mad about this, as they can't watch anything local other than the PBS stations?!! :mad:

Dish might as well go out of business, since they put almost whole market off the air. If someone could afford to, they (if they live in Connecticut or Springfield, MA) should have a lawsuit against Dish as Hartford soon may be the largest market to have all it's Big 5 (CBS, FOX, CW, NBC & ABC) stations go off the air on Dish because of it's disputes (WTNH and WVIT should watch out)! Dish viewers are very mad and disappointed in Dish as in Hartford, it may soon provide NO local channels, even though Dish says there are.

Well, the only local channels there that are safe is the Spanish stations and the PBS stations (PBS stations are almost guaranteed to be immune to disputes). 3 disputes at 1 time (Tribune, NFL Network, and now Meredith) This is outrageous Dish, your subscribers in CT and west Massachusetts are enraged that they can't get their local channels, except for PBS stations, CPTV and WGBY.
 
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Jonathan7157 said:
What's next?! Dish in dispute with the NBC O&Os (WVIT) and/or Media General/Nexstar (WWLP/WFXQ Springfield and WTNH/WCTX)?! The whole Hartford/Springfield market will be mad about this, as they can't watch anything local other than the PBS stations?!! :mad:

Dish might as well go out of business, since they put almost whole market off the air. If someone could afford to, they (if they live in Connecticut or Springfield, MA) should have a lawsuit against Dish as Hartford soon may be the largest market to have all it's Big 5 (CBS, FOX, CW, NBC & ABC) stations go off the air on Dish because of it's disputes (WTNH and WVIT should watch out)! Dish viewers are very mad and disappointed in Dish as in Hartford, it may soon provide NO local channels, even though Dish says there are.

Well, the only local channels there that are safe is the Spanish stations and the PBS stations (PBS stations are almost guaranteed to be immune to disputes). 3 disputes at 1 time (Tribune, NFL Network, and now Meredith) This is outrageous Dish, your subscribers in CT and west Massachusetts are enraged that they can't get their local channels, except for PBS stations, CPTV and WGBY.
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First thought....If you're in Florida (as your loc says) why the hell would you be all mad about Hartford??

Couple thoughts
That is why they made TV antennas :)
Dish and Comcast just had a dispute. I forget if it was 100% resolved but part of Comcasts agreement with Dish was that they (Comcast) cant pull the stations off the air during a dispute.
If I remember right Dish had a dispute with MG this past year but no stations were lost. Nexstar was within the last year too (renewal) so those stations are good for a few years :)

Oh and Dish has had a couple times where the whole market had no locals. It was previously posted above.
 


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