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The Programming Disputes Thread

mvcg66b3r said:
Metrocast New London CT doesn't carry YES, but does have SNY (Mets/UConn), NESN (Red Sox/Bruins) and CSN (Celtics).
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...6385&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=CT67147:X
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Makes perfect sense. New London is a short drive from the Rhode Island border, and Yankee fans are scarce in the Ocean State. Cite DMAs all you want. You're not in Connecticut. I am, and have been for 35 years. I've seen the fan preference surveys and every time one is conducted it shows a sharp tilt toward Boston sports once you cross east of the Connecticut River, no matter which DMA a given town is in. The split here, about 10 miles west of the river, usually comes out something like 60-35-5 Yankees-Sox-Mets. Head east 40 miles or so and the split favors the Sox and the Mets disappear.

For what it's worth, Channel 38 was on the local cable system with Red Sox games in the pre-RSN era, as were Channels 9 and 11 from NYC with Mets and Yanks. This was the case in most of central Connecticut from the Massachusetts line down to New Haven. Yet there were always more Sox fans here than in New Haven and more Sox fans up in Union (the Connecticut town across the border from Holland) than here. I can't explain it. It's just the way this state has been for the last three and a half decades, at least.
 
From the AVS Forum, a notice about a possible dispute between Scripps and TWC/Bright House. (Despite coming from a Detroit paper, this actually was posted on the Orlando BHN thread.)

Our agreements with WMYD MyTV, WXYZ ABC, WXYZ Bounce TV, WXYZ Laff TV, EVINE Live, Golf Channel, Pop, Reelz, and TV Guide expire on December 31, 2015 and we may have to cease carriage in all formats if our authority to continue is withheld.
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http://www.avsforum.com/forum/45-lo...n/384294-orlando-fl-bhn-653.html#post39231786

This would also affect Tampa, Cleveland, San Diego, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Nashville, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Buffalo, Green Bay, Omaha and Bakersfield.
 
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ftballfan said:
Also, Comcast doesn't serve a lot of the core NY market (TWC and Cablevision dominate that area)
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Comcast serves a large portion of northern and central New Jersey which is definitely "core" in the NY market. Although I think pretty much everyone who has the option of Verizon Fios has dropped Comcast by now anyway. None of my neighbors have Comcast anymore.
 
CTListener said:
Makes perfect sense. New London is a short drive from the Rhode Island border, and Yankee fans are scarce in the Ocean State. Cite DMAs all you want. You're not in Connecticut. I am, and have been for 35 years. I've seen the fan preference surveys and every time one is conducted it shows a sharp tilt toward Boston sports once you cross east of the Connecticut River, no matter which DMA a given town is in. The split here, about 10 miles west of the river, usually comes out something like 60-35-5 Yankees-Sox-Mets. Head east 40 miles or so and the split favors the Sox and the Mets disappear.

For what it's worth, Channel 38 was on the local cable system with Red Sox games in the pre-RSN era, as were Channels 9 and 11 from NYC with Mets and Yanks. This was the case in most of central Connecticut from the Massachusetts line down to New Haven. Yet there were always more Sox fans here than in New Haven and more Sox fans up in Union (the Connecticut town across the border from Holland) than here. I can't explain it. It's just the way this state has been for the last three and a half decades, at least.
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This shows that sports teams' fandoms don't follow DMA lines. For example, Fox Sports Detroit is seen in parts of NW Ohio and NE Indiana alongside Fox Sports Ohio, Fox Sports Indiana, and even CSN Chicago. Another example: Niles, MI is in the South Bend DMA (and right down the road from South Bend) but the cable system there (Comcast) only carries Fox Sports Detroit (no CSN Chicago)
 
ftballfan said:
This shows that sports teams' fandoms don't follow DMA lines. For example, Fox Sports Detroit is seen in parts of NW Ohio and NE Indiana alongside Fox Sports Ohio, Fox Sports Indiana, and even CSN Chicago. Another example: Niles, MI is in the South Bend DMA (and right down the road from South Bend) but the cable system there (Comcast) only carries Fox Sports Detroit (no CSN Chicago)
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BTN is on the standard cable package in NYC thanks to Rutgers, but NYC isn't really college sports hotbed and no one cares about Rutgers outside of NJ, 6 baseball teams claim all of Iowa
 
nomadcowatbk said:
BTN is on the standard cable package in NYC thanks to Rutgers, but NYC isn't really college sports hotbed and no one cares about Rutgers outside of NJ, 6 baseball teams claim all of Iowa
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The only reason Rutgers was allowed into the Big Ten was to get BTN into the No. 1 television market, even if nobody there watches it. The advertisers pay through the nose for potential viewers as well as actual ones, and there's always the chance that the Rutgers football program will become a perennial challenger for No. 1 nationally with a huge bandwagon fanbase in New York and vicinity. About the same chance as pigs sprouting wings, but a chance nonetheless.
 
CTListener said:
... and there's always the chance that the Rutgers football program will become a perennial challenger for No. 1 nationally with a huge bandwagon fanbase in New York and vicinity. About the same chance as pigs sprouting wings, but a chance nonetheless.
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Must be why Rutgers schedules Notre Dame every years always on the lookout for that far away miracle.
 
Awesome! I was staying overnight in Portland, ME on Thursday night. WCSH-TV (NBC) channel 6 of Portland was running a crawl at the top of the screen about the dispute. Nice to see that their parent company could come to terms.
 
http://synacor.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?team=104&report=schedule

What are you talking about with Rutgers and Notre Dame? The teams do not usually play each other. Rutgers exploited loopholes that previously existed in the BCS System by playing in a weaker, BCS affiliated conference and having an easy non-conference schedule and parlayed that into joining the Big Ten which only let them in for access to the NY Media Market. Rutgers will NEVER win a Big Ten title. Despite being the first place College Football was played, the program simply isn't good enough to play at a Big Ten level. They'll make the occasional Bowl Game with six or seven wins, but that's about it.
 
umfan said:
http://synacor.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?team=104&report=schedule

What are you talking about with Rutgers and Notre Dame? The teams do not usually play each other. Rutgers exploited loopholes that previously existed in the BCS System by playing in a weaker, BCS affiliated conference and having an easy non-conference schedule and parlayed that into joining the Big Ten which only let them in for access to the NY Media Market. Rutgers will NEVER win a Big Ten title. Despite being the first place College Football was played, the program simply isn't good enough to play at a Big Ten level. They'll make the occasional Bowl Game with six or seven wins, but that's about it.
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Same goes for Boston College in the ACC. BC is only in the conference because the conference wanted clearance in Boston for its games to squeeze more money out of the advertisers -- never mind that Boston is a pro sports town with hardly any interest in college football except among gamblers. Even in the ACC, with fewer strong programs than the Big Ten, BC will never come close to a championship.
 
vchimpanzee said:
A crawl during "Jeopardy" last night warned DirecTV and U-Verse viewers WCNC could be lost. Or was it Dish?
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No, I was right the first time.

Another crawl during the next night's "Jeopardy" had a different date but still warned viewers might lose the station. I haven't watched the station since then.
mvcg66b3r said:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...hes-Multi-Year-Carriage-Agreement-DIRECTV-ATT
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This looks like it could be the same dispute. I went to Wikipedia. Last I heard, Belo owned WCNC. I see now that TEGNA owns the station.
 
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