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The Programming Disputes Thread

Three years in a row of disputes for KCYU/KFFX. Goodness gracious, STOP PLAYING THIS REVOLVING DOOR GAME! No matter which door you go through, a dispute happens eventually with this television station. Just depends on the year. This year it's Dish.

And just before the Super Bowl. Yakima, Tri-Cities, Ellensburg and Walla Walla bars that have DISH are probably blowing up the answering machines at Dish and FOX 41.
 
Terrible news for the Delta. Lots of very poor people down there just trying to make it on what they can. They can't afford high-gain antennas on 50 foot masts.
They pulled the same crap with DIRECTV apparently recently (was that the Northwest dispute that went on for 8+ months?) Can't win!

This is why Congress needs to sign a bill that temporarily allows access to an out-of-market station if a carriage dispute happens. Syndex be damned. They lost the local station. These people in the Delta who lost everything except PBS, want Jackson MS stations if anything. A loophole, and they would get them temporarily.
Time for them to call their representatives.
 
crainbebo said:
Terrible news for the Delta. Lots of very poor people down there just trying to make it on what they can. They can't afford high-gain antennas on 50 foot masts.
They pulled the same crap with DIRECTV apparently recently (was that the Northwest dispute that went on for 8+ months?) Can't win!

This is why Congress needs to sign a bill that temporarily allows access to an out-of-market station if a carriage dispute happens. Syndex be damned. They lost the local station. These people in the Delta who lost everything except PBS, want Jackson MS stations if anything. A loophole, and they would get them temporarily.
Time for them to call their representatives.
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I believe that satellite systems should be able to carry 2 affiliates of each network at least in rural areas at all times. Cable systems can do that to some extent, depending on the area, although I know some don't. I know that Spectrum in Jackson, TN has 2 affiliates each from Jackson and Memphis for CBS, NBC, and Fox. The only exception is ABC since they have an agreement to only carry WBBJ 7 in Jackson.
 
and now Roku has a dispute with Fox just in time for the Super Bowl, this affects the Fox corporations based apps and i doubt if impact the Disney owned apps unless they were apart of the coverage agreement expiring tomorrow.

for those with Roku like me, it's best you ever watch Fox content via other internet based devices like a computer/laptop, a tablet or smartphone with Fox apps already install or is able to get Fox owned apps from the device's app store, a PS4, a X Box One, a Chromecast, Amazon Fire TV based device, Apple TV, or smart TV that isn't Roku based.
 
and now Roku has a dispute with Fox just in time for the Super Bowl, this affects the Fox corporations based apps and i doubt if impact the Disney owned apps unless they were apart of the coverage agreement expiring tomorrow.

for those with Roku like me, it's best you ever watch Fox content via other internet based devices like a computer/laptop, a tablet or smartphone with Fox apps already install or is able to get Fox owned apps from the device's app store, a PS4, a X Box One, a Chromecast, Amazon Fire TV based device, Apple TV, or smart TV that isn't Roku based.

theverge.com/2020/1/30/21116163/roku-super-bowl-fox-sports-channels-apps-email
 
Will_H_69_9 said:
and now Roku has a dispute with Fox just in time for the Super Bowl, this affects the Fox corporations based apps and i doubt if impact the Disney owned apps unless they were apart of the coverage agreement expiring tomorrow.

for those with Roku like me, it's best you ever watch Fox content via other internet based devices like a computer/laptop, a tablet or smartphone with Fox apps already install or is able to get Fox owned apps from the device's app store, a PS4, a X Box One, a Chromecast, Amazon Fire TV based device, Apple TV, or smart TV that isn't Roku based.

theverge.com/2020/1/30/21116163/roku-super-bowl-fox-sports-channels-apps-email
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Fox Corp apps are the only ones affected by the Roku dispute. Apparently streaming TV outlets have carriage disputes too its not just Cable TV that has to deal with this.


https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/roku-drops-fox-super-bowl-liv-dispute-1203488147/


Roku, less than three days before Super Bowl LIV is set to air on Fox, has removed all Fox Corp. channels from the Roku Channel Store — a move the broadcaster called a “poorly timed negotiating ploy.”

In a tweet Thursday, Roku said that its distribution deal with Fox Corp. was set to expire on Jan. 31 “so Fox channels were removed from the Roku Channel Store.”

The device maker said Roku users can still view Fox programming — including this Sunday’s Super Bowl — through over-the-top pay-TV services, including Dish’s Sling TV, Hulu Live, YouTube TV and Fubo. A Roku rep also noted that Roku TV customers can use an antenna to watch Fox’s broadcast channels.

According to Roku, the company offered Fox an extension to their previous agreement while they worked out a new deal but that Fox turned it down. “Our discussions with Fox continue and we hope that Fox will agree to an agreement soon,” the Roku spokeswoman said.
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KCYU and all of the Cox stations still off Dish as of tonight. With less than 48 hours before the Super Bowl (i.e. KCYU, KAYU). Want your viewers' blood to boil? Keep refusing to sign over a new retransmission agreement.
 
https://www.axios.com/tv-battles-spill-into-streaming-08d148ac-9867-4f6f-9200-58664e02bef5.html

An editorial on Retrans disputes coming to Internet TV devices such as Roku, Apple TV and Amazon Fire TV.

What they're saying: Fox used some of its top talent to slam Roku for the debacle, a similar tactic that networks use when negotiating with pay-TV distributors.

"Why is @Roku threatening to take away the FOX News app? We don’t know either! Tell Roku hands off your device, and to put you ahead of their business interests." Sean Hannity tweeted Friday.
The big picture: This isn't the first time programmers and streamers have bumped up against one another.

Last year, Amazon and Disney nearly failed to strike a distribution agreement to have Disney+ available on Amazon Fire TVs after clashes over advertising terms.
In 2015, Amazon stopped selling the Apple TV set-top box and Google Chromecast dongle amid disputes with both companies. (The company announced more than two years later that it would resume sales.)
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THe Roku/Fox dispute was just one sign that streaming disputes will be expected in the future.

In 2019 there was the Amazon/ Disney dispute.
 
https://news.yahoo.com/philippines-moves-cancel-top-broadcasters-franchise-073250562--finance.html

ABS-CBN (Philippine Broadcasting Network) might end up in a retrans dispute overseas on March 30th due the President of the Philippines making threats to yank the broadcasting licenses of ABS-CBN Inc. In the USA ABS-CBN TV is seen on Xfinity's international packages and on AT&T's international TV package for Directv. They might get yanked off the air on March 30th due to the executive threat.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...pines-biggest-tv-station-200210054831529.html
 
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/rokus-recent-fight-with-fox-was-over-ads-the-roku-channel/

Here is the behind the scenes look at the Roku/ Fox streaming Dispute. Expect these types of disputes to happen on internet TV more often in the future.

Now, a report from The Information has added another layer to the story. Sources for the The Information shared that the disagreement was due in part to Roku’s strategy to being more content to The Roku Channel, which the company uses to show free ad-supported content to Roku users. Ads were also part of the conversation, which many had already assumed was at the forefront of the disagreement.

“Roku has asked entertainment companies such as Fox for programming that can run on The Roku Channel. Roku has also asked some companies to spend marketing dollars on The Roku Channel,” the sources said. When Fox refused to provide content for The Roku Channel or meet the terms of the ad agreement Roku asked for, the apps were removed.

The report calls companies like Roku and Amazon, the companies selling some of the most popular streaming devices on the market, gatekeepers. As gatekeepers, these companies have the power to put channels in front of huge audiences, along with the power to remove them from their platform and drastically reduce streaming viewership. With this power, companies like Roku have the upper hand when it comes to negotiations like the one with Fox.
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https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/did-greed-kill-cable-tv/

An editorial on Greed Killing cable TV. But the reality here is that even internet TV is going to confront the same issues that got cable TV in the situation they are in in the first place.

With profit margins of $8 a channel for ESPN, you can see why cable TV was so lucrative. So, did greed do them in? Yes and no.

The truth is many cable TV companies had no real competition for many years. This made it easy for cable companies to agree to ever higher contract prices with content owners because they knew the end user would agree to pay it.


Now though Hulu, YouTube TV, Sling TV, AT&T TV NOW, and others offer live TV streaming services to compete with cable. This leaves cable TV companies stuck with expensive contracts that prevent them from competing with smaller services like Hulu’s live TV offering.

Cable TV is not alone in being stuck with old contracts. Disney recently announced that they want to offer smaller live TV packages. To do that Disney said they need to strike new deals with the content owners. So, even streaming companies are being hindered by their old contracts.
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https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/you...le-in-app-purchases-for-existing-subscribers/

Today YouTube TV announced that they are ending support for in-app purchases for existing subscribers on March 13th, 2020. Last year YouTube stopped letting new subscribers sign-up through in-app purchases on iOS devices. Instead, new subscribers had to go make an account on YouTube TV’s website. If you already had an account you could continue to pay through your in-app payment method on iOS. Now though, that is coming to an end on March 13th, 2020.

YouTube TV emailed subscribers who are still using in-app purchasing through iOS devices to notify them that their accounts will automatically be canceled on their next billing date after March 13th, 2020. YouTube TV subscribers who are affected by this will need to sign-up again by visiting YouTube TV’s website.
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Youtube announces ending in app purchases for existing customers who have IOS devices on March 13th, 2020.
 


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