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The Programming Disputes Thread


Vallejo and Benicia division of Comcast will remove KCRA-TV because its west of the border where Sacramento and San Francisco TV DMA are divided within Solano County. according to this release Comcast will redirect KCRA-TV for Comcast owned KNTV NBC Bay Area.
S.F. and Sacramento should have been a single DMA with 7 VHFs on Mt. Diablo at the beginning of television.
 
S.F. and Sacramento should have been a single DMA with 7 VHFs on Mt. Diablo at the beginning of television.
TV markets like Nielsen's DMA and the now defunct Arbitron's ADI are defined by the ratings company(s), and were determined based principally on which major city's stations were viewed in an area back in the "early days" of TV and CATV broadcasting.

While there are multi-city DMS's like Albany/Schenectedy/Troy and Dallas/Ft Worth, in no case are the cities so far apart, center to center... 75 air miles in this case.
 
S.F. and Sacramento should have been a single DMA with 7 VHFs on Mt. Diablo at the beginning of television.
That makes as much sense as a Chicago/Milwaukee or NYC/Philly joint market. The FCC never combined Washington DC and Baltimore, and they're only 35 miles apart. SF/Sacramento, Chicago/Milwaukee, and NYC/Philly are about 100 miles apart.
 
Yakima and Tri-Cities are 'combined' but with semi-satellites that simulcast the same programming except for different commercials and in the case of KEPR and KIMA ONLY, separate newscasts. And they are 75 miles apart. One has a former nuclear site (still operational), and a gigantic river with a hydroplane race every summer; the other has orchards a-plenty and acres worth of hops that you are drinking in the beer you buy at the grocery store. Oh, and a major university in Ellensburg (still part of the Yakima side of the market).
The news is still the same on the ABC and NBC, so whether I'm sitting in Ellensburg, or a motel room in Walla Walla, I still hear about some crash that happened on 395 in Pasco, or a shooting in Toppenish.
 
S.F. and Sacramento should have been a single DMA with 7 VHFs on Mt. Diablo at the beginning of television.
Parts of how Solano County ended up being split in two TV and Radio TV Markets can be attributed to when KOVR CBS13/CBSN Sacramento (Under ABC affiliation) was originally going to cover San Francisco too until ABC issued an order to have it's signal in a different location to cover primarily Sacramento to protect ABC O&O KGO-TV.


Stockton, 50 miles to the south, got a TV station of its own in 1954. It found a spot atop Mount Diablo that allowed it to "cover" not only its home market but also parts of Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay Area, and thus was born "KOVR" on channel 13.

But KOVR, which began as an independent, wanted an ABC affiliation (KCRA was NBC and KBET was with CBS), and ABC didn't want the big KOVR signal drawing viewers away from its owned-and-operated KGO-TV in San Francisco. So KOVR agreed to move down off its perch high on Diablo, to a temporary spot in the hills near Jackson. It still needed to find a spot that would allow it to serve all of what had by now become the Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto market, though.

And if KOVR was going to reach all of that market, stretching 100 miles up and down the Central Valley, KCRA and KBET (which became KXTV in 1959) weren't about to be left behind with Sacramento-only signals.
 
That makes as much sense as a Chicago/Milwaukee or NYC/Philly joint market. The FCC never combined Washington DC and Baltimore, and they're only 35 miles apart. SF/Sacramento, Chicago/Milwaukee, and NYC/Philly are about 100 miles apart.
Forgot about Boston and Providence too
 
i can see all Youtube owned apps going bye bye on Roku for a while while Google and Roku do their negotiations. it's not just YouTube TV, it's also the YouTube app.
YouTube TV disappeared from Roku today. The app loads and the channel guide is displayed, but when any channel is selected, it displays a screen saying that this content is not licensed. It still works on my PC and phone.

UPDATE: It quit after the update late last night (6/30 @11:30 PM PDT). I updated it just now, and it's working again. So far.
 
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YouTube TV disappeared from Roku today. The app loads and the channel guide is displayed, but when any channel is selected, it displays a screen saying that this content is not licensed. It still works on my PC and phone.

UPDATE: It quit after the update late last night (6/30 @11:30 PM PDT). I updated it just now, and it's working again. So far.

Here is the link of the issue.
 
And that will take KIMA and KEPR off the air for the tens of thousands of Dish subs in central WA. Great, just great...can't return to mostly normal life after the pandemic WITHOUT another pi$$ing match between satellite and station owner...
 

Sinclair has released a statement on the Dish dispute.
 
The clapping you heard was my grandmother thankful to watch Young and the Restless this week on her satellite dish.
 


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