The promised NYC HD (and non HD) demo.

[R.F. Burns]

Exactly! A telephone IS a balanced distibution of frequencies. Three hundred to three thousand hz, period.
Not a desirable frequency response, but balanced and more intelligible than AM when brickwalled at the station and center tuned for HD.

I agree that music needs bass, and simplify the "speaker size" issue in order to say there should be less bass as there is less treble.

I also know that there is a great difference in high-end response limits from station to station, and they're not complying to the same standard.

If you're hearing "splat" from side-tuning on AM, you have tuned past the carrier and are receiving sideband only.
If you then open up your bandwidth, you will find the distortion is gone.

I, too deplore engineers with no ears.
But it is worse to hear something "wrong" and pretend everything is OK to satisfy "the man".
I will not pretend everything is OK with the analog left over after HD is added.

I also keep hearing reference to "legality".
With all due respect, I think the precedent has been set by ibiquity.
Seems it's OK to put sidebands out to 20khz continuously.
So of course it's no problem to have modulation out there 2 to 3 per cent of the time....

It's only your receiver that makes you think that an HD station is transmitting out to 20 Khz. Take a look at the signal on a spectrum analyzer. While you think you are hearing the IBOC signal across the band what you are actually experiencing is poor skirt selectivity. In analogue words the entire channel is being modulated at 100% as opposed to analog peaks which while they cause interference to first adjacents because it isn't a constant interference, people/DXers can usually get an ID through the noise. Because of the 100% IBOC audio to the channel edges, analog radios can not deal with the perfectly legal IBOC next door neighbor because they really weren't designed to do so. Nevertheless, just because a receiver lacks for selectivity doesn't mean that stations are operating illegally. I posted a demo of a Non HD station on a second adjacent to a 50KW local IBOC and there was no IBOC interference and I am in a null of that station which is over 70 miles from my location.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

This is funny as hell. Someone finally makes a demo in the most RF congested part of the country that debunks all the interference whining you hear here and the silence from the anti-HD guys is deafening.

I guess it is hard to argue against the proof when it's right there for everyone to hear!

No silence, and the all the debunking is being done by HD opponents, not supporters.

Recording a few MP3 audio streams of selected stations from a few locations does not prove HD Radio does not cause buzz and interference.

I'm sure R. F. Burns knows that, and has posted his audio streams as a deception.
Red Herrings again.
Does the R. F. stand for Red Fish?

Audio recordings can be selected, processed, edited, misrepresented and even faked.
HD supporters have already posted some misrepresented, distorted audio files right here on this very website.

R. F. Burns and others, your audio files are bunk, and prove nothing, except your willingness to stoop to any lengths to decieve to promote HD Radio.
Nothing new there, HD radio has been a deception and fraud since iBiquity first deceived the FCC by calling it In Band On Channel. The HD stands for High Deception.
To debunk your posts and audio files has been my pleasure. ;D

 

[IBOCRocks]

This is funny as hell. Someone finally makes a demo in the most RF congested part of the country that debunks all the interference whining you hear here and the silence from the anti-HD guys is deafening.

I guess it is hard to argue against the proof when it's right there for everyone to hear!

No silence, and the all the debunking is being done by HD opponents, not supporters.

Recording a few MP3 audio streams of selected stations from a few locations does not prove HD Radio does not cause buzz and interference.

I'm sure R. F. Burns knows that, and has posted his audio streams as a deception.
Red Herrings again.
Does the R. F. stand for Red Fish?

Audio recordings can be selected, processed, edited, misrepresented and even faked.
HD supporters have already posted some misrepresented, distorted audio files right here on this very website.

R. F. Burns and others, your audio files are bunk, and prove nothing, except your willingness to stoop to any lengths to decieve to promote HD Radio.
Nothing new there, HD radio has been a deception and fraud since iBiquity first deceived the FCC by calling it In Band On Channel. The HD stands for High Deception.
To debunk your posts and audio files has been my pleasure. ;D

So what exactly did you debunk again? Which audio cuts exactly did you prove were processed or faked?

I seem to recall a link posted here several months ago by an anti-HD poster that was fully and scientifically debunked. It had to do with a station shutting off IBOC at dusk. Of course there were several facts that were conveniently omitted (like the station running IBOC was running at high power, and the station that was "interfered" with was a DX station, and that it was the fact that the local dropping power by 80%, and not the shutdown of IBOC, reduced the interference).

Anyway, I digress.

I am enjoying the through whomping going on here. I haven't had the need to say anything because it appears that the public at large is doing exactly as I hoped. Finding out the truth about HD.

I'll leave again with this, Rich (Supercaster):

What did you debunk, and how exactly did you do it? Can you offer proof, other than rhetoric? We're all (I'm sure) patiently awaiting your logic.

 

[clouseau]

This is funny as hell. Someone finally makes a demo in the most RF congested part of the country that debunks all the interference whining you hear here and the silence from the anti-HD guys is deafening.

I guess it is hard to argue against the proof when it's right there for everyone to hear!

No silence, and the all the debunking is being done by HD opponents, not supporters.

Recording a few MP3 audio streams of selected stations from a few locations does not prove HD Radio does not cause buzz and interference.

I'm sure R. F. Burns knows that, and has posted his audio streams as a deception.
Red Herrings again.
Does the R. F. stand for Red Fish?

Audio recordings can be selected, processed, edited, misrepresented and even faked.
HD supporters have already posted some misrepresented, distorted audio files right here on this very website.

R. F. Burns and others, your audio files are bunk, and prove nothing, except your willingness to stoop to any lengths to decieve to promote HD Radio.
Nothing new there, HD radio has been a deception and fraud since iBiquity first deceived the FCC by calling it In Band On Channel. The HD stands for High Deception.
To debunk your posts and audio files has been my pleasure. ;D

Clearly your recording of a radio not receiving interference or being jammed BY IBOC is not correct. THERE IS INTERFERENCE!! I have read it on Hundreds of posts by "Say No TO IBOC" and "Supercaster" and "700WLW" and [OK sorry I can't keep up with wlws lastest screen name".]

So I offer to you... The Top Ten Reasons why the HD recordings on Radio-info.com are incorrect...

#10 Real world conditions aren't like a Lab. It causes interference, but you just don't hear it. This situation never happened.

#9 RF BURNS is actually not a real person because he uses a handle. People who use "Handles" should not be taken seriously. The heck with the recording. Listen to 700WLW or Supercaster. They're reputable.

#8 RF Burns used actual observations rather than trying to find a problem. He didn't use facts. I'll bet at 12 noon, You can't get WLW in center city Manhatten. Must be IBOC "JAMMING". No WLW = HD sucks. The "Cotillion" just doesn't get it. IBOC stops me from getting WLW in Manhatten. Hell it's only 700 miles away.

#7 The recordings are doctored. My friend's cousin's sister's boyfriend's roomate's cousin's co-worker told me the story. And they SAW it!! (They're talking to Inside Edition right now)

#6 A 25 year radio veteran heard the Off Air AM HD recording on our station studio monitors today and said "God Dammit, when you comnpare that to how we sounded, that sounds a heck of a lot" [truncated]"compared to how we sounded in the 70's".

#5 RF Burns got FM jocks in NY to play like they were on AM and then BS'ed us all

#4 IBOC adds rf to the signal and people who hear it are overloaded with rf and are saying they don't hear it, but it's RF poisoning , but really they do... there IS interference... And Jamming too. HD radio sucks.

#3 Radio Programming sucks. People who see a value in HD are associated with radio programmers. Therefore THEY suck. Therefore HD radio Sucks. Therefore the Recordings MUST Suck

#2 HD Radio is flawed technology, because there is no one left to program it because Clear Channel is going out of business. Therefore the Products suck. Therefore the recordings suck...

And NOW ..the

#1 Reason why "the HD recordings on Radio-info.com are incorrect..."....

"I don't care about the reality. I HATE THE IDEA!! I "LOVE" AM DX. I live for the days when I could listen to CKLW In Philly. WLW in Mid Michigan. And PJB in S. Texas. And no amount of reality is getting in my way... I HATE HD radio. It Sucks. And you can believe it because I said so.

The Anti-HD world...

and then there's
Clouseau

 

[Mike Walker]

I believe that people SHOULD use their real names. I'm neither afraid, nor ashamed to attach my name to any opinion that I hold, no matter whether others agree. However, just because someone chooses otherwise doesn't mean there's anything suspect in their posts. BECAUSE the opinions expressed here are sometimes emotionally charged, and include information about REAL STATIONS, many radio stations and groups forbid their employees from posting here. Hence the need some have to use aliases. I'll take an RF Burns who's a real, practicing enginner over twenty (insert name here) of people who have no such experience, and don't even own a freakin' HD Radio, so they have no personal experience. Give me REAL radio people with REAL creds! THAT'S who I'll listen to! It can't be faked. Anyone who knows radio engineering knows that RF is the real thing I have no idea which NY station or group he works for, yet I'd vouch for his authenticity because his words ring true (to someone who's been in this biz a LONG time!)

 

[EasyPeazy]

I believe that people SHOULD use their real names. I'm neither afraid, nor ashamed to attach my name to any opinion that I hold, no matter whether others agree. However, just because someone chooses otherwise doesn't mean there's anything suspect in their posts. BECAUSE the opinions expressed here are sometimes emotionally charged, and include information about REAL STATIONS, many radio stations and groups forbid their employees from posting here. Hence the need some have to use aliases. I'll take an RF Burns who's a real, practicing enginner over twenty (insert name here) of people who have no such experience, and don't even own a freakin' HD Radio, so they have no personal experience. Give me REAL radio people with REAL creds! THAT'S who I'll listen to! It can't be faked. Anyone who knows radio engineering knows that RF is the real thing I have no idea which NY station or group he works for, yet I'd vouch for his authenticity because his words ring true (to someone who's been in this biz a LONG time!)

Boards like this one are a guilty pleasure for a lot of people in radio. If you ever end up discussing boards like this with your peers at the water cooler you find everyone reads these boards "occasionally" but nobody posts.

 

[Mike Walker]

I may not be the only one, but I have actually been fired from a production gig for something I posted on a board like this one a few years ago. The General Manager at WGDN in Gladwyn Michigan, a station I produced for...and had even done the local news for a few times...FROM NORTH CAROLINA...read a post of mine to the effect that "most General Managers come up through sales. Because of this, they understand almost nothing about programming, and frequently make silly decisions because of it".

OBVIOUSLY I wasn't talking about the guy at WGDN. Not only had I never worked in his station or observed his management skills (though his reaction gave me a clue!), I HAD NEVER FREAKIN' MET THE GUY! I stand by the statement. Most General Managers I've worked for who haven't worked in programming don't understand it. Why the hell is that controversial? How is it different than saying "most traffic directors who didn't come up through Engineering shouldn't be installing transmitters"? I LONG for the "goold ole' days" when we all were generalists...when NOBODY that could do "just one thing" would even have a job! During my first few years in radio I worked in sales, traffic (putting together the program log a couple of days a week), engineering (observing and helping the CE with various projects while learning a TON), SALES (EVERYONE sold some at small market stations in those days), and news (I carried a tape recorder. Whenever I discovered a news event, I REPORTED ON IT! Even sold a couple of stories to the North Carolina News Network at the tender age of 16!), all while doing a seven hour airshift five days a week, and a TEN HOUR AIRSHIFT ON SUNDAYS. One Sunday a month that airshift was FIFTEEN HOURS, because the other Sunday announcer was in the National Guard. THAT'S THE WORLD I GREW UP IN, as did many here. So you own a station and I work for you, cool. I'm your employee. But don't assume that you know more about radio, or have broader experience. If you're 40 or under, that's likely just not true (nor is it true of anyone from my generation, or those which came before).

 

[tomservo]

Wow. Thanks to Mr. Burns for posting his samples. I've been wanting to hear some real world AM HD for a while, and hearing the blend from analog to digital was a nice touch. I can honestly say, in my own opinion, that the difference between the digital and analog is not all that impressive. It just sounds too... "harsh" or something. I guess the two satellite radio providers have set the bar for low-quality, low-bitrate audio garbage. Everybody else is racing to the bottom. :

The performance of the Sangean tuner though is wonderful. In case I missed it, what kind of antenna are you using? That catch of WHCR is very impressive.

Maybe I'm just in a negative nelly mood today, but the only HD sample that sounded at all 'good' was the WKTU HD-2 bit. The others running 3 HD signals sounded absolutely awful. And I know awful, I've got XM.

As for the superadio, that's actually the first time I've ever heard audio from one. I'd love to have one of my own to toy with... I heard the IBOC-buzz over the analog audio on all the stations except WRKL/WNYH... It was obvious on WCBS and very loud on WFAN. It sounds like they were all recorded in a very narrow bandwidth anyway... But god, that WFAN was annoying.

 

[4dude]

THANX FOR THE DEMO......

LETS HOPE THIS CRAP FAILS MISERABLY!!!!!!

 

[R.F. Burns]

Wow. Thanks to Mr. Burns for posting his samples. I've been wanting to hear some real world AM HD for a while, and hearing the blend from analog to digital was a nice touch. I can honestly say, in my own opinion, that the difference between the digital and analog is not all that impressive. It just sounds too... "harsh" or something. I guess the two satellite radio providers have set the bar for low-quality, low-bitrate audio garbage. Everybody else is racing to the bottom. :

The performance of the Sangean tuner though is wonderful. In case I missed it, what kind of antenna are you using? That catch of WHCR is very impressive.

Maybe I'm just in a negative nelly mood today, but the only HD sample that sounded at all 'good' was the WKTU HD-2 bit. The others running 3 HD signals sounded absolutely awful. And I know awful, I've got XM.

As for the superadio, that's actually the first time I've ever heard audio from one. I'd love to have one of my own to toy with... I heard the IBOC-buzz over the analog audio on all the stations except WRKL/WNYH... It was obvious on WCBS and very loud on WFAN. It sounds like they were all recorded in a very narrow bandwidth anyway... But god, that WFAN was annoying.

I think you are imagining things here. WRKL is on 910 Khz 3rd adjacent to 50 KW WCBS and WNYH is 740 between 710 50 KW WOR and 770 50 KW WABC and that was in response to those who said that the IBOC component could be heard on 2nd, 3rd adjacents and even stations further away . The audio under WFAN was backgound noise not having anything to do with IBOC. I heard the station after they turned off the IBOC and that noise remained. The fact that the file was recompressed to WMA as opposed to wav format added a little coloring to the audio. You can not hear the IBOC sidebands on any of the AM IBOC stations. If it would help you I would be happy to record another demo. Of course this is all well and good but IBOC has been accepted by the commision as the defacto digital system in the US and as of this time, no competitor has radios in the field and I don't mean mail order retrofit radios. Where can I purchase a Cam-D receiver and who manufactures them? Are they in stores yet?

 

[Tom Wells]

Agreed that 3rd adjacents have no problem.
Unless "squished between" two 50kw IBOCs, 3rd from either, such as you as you cite.
They can still be received clearly, but are relegated to perfect center tuning reception to avoid the immediate hiss to either side of
IF passband. So their full upper register falls into a 20 khz and up digital version of "monkey chatter".
Please excuse my wideband detector and af circuitry.
No problem if your your radio has been pre-hobbled.

I am 2 miles from WGN 720 and WBBM 780 both on IBOC, listening to WNDZ Portage IN 750 (weak but usable).
It is impossible to tune the "20khz and up" away, and I must turn down the treble.
As WNDZ has full audio they still have useful clarity, even with treble down.
Still an acceptable signal as the very slight splash AM effects from WBBM/WGN are apparent also.
But my car radio has a TRF stage, so I don't know how the new cheapy types do...

Seconds are different matter, even in primary coverage areas. I plan another audio post with some of these...
Other people also say they are hearing the hiss in your center-tuned samples.
How can we listen to the same thing and reach completely opposite opinions?
I suggest there is a huge problem with the audio you want to enforce, just so your digital sidebands won't be confused
with modulation products that have every right to be where they are.

The real reason audio is restricted is so pecussives and sibilants do not generate components that fall in the
range where the multiple, slow-rate bitstreams are.

Because it knocks decoding out.

It's not smart enough to listen to the analog, subtracting the error to retain decoding.
It can't ask for more data redundancy that is built-in, so it stumbles and restarts.

Go ahead, deny these things, too. I wasn't born yesterday, and know a few things about technology.

 

[tomservo]

It wasn't my intention to imply that the IBOC is all over 2nd and 3rd adjacents. I wasn't sure for a long time if there was noise and interference until I heard demos and found some real-world examples in my (distant) area. And I can conclude, at least with my equipment, that there is no noticeable 2nd/3rd adjacent; your samples back that up.

But I still say the hiss from the digital sidebands was at least noticeable, if not obvious on a few of the stations. If WFAN has some other noise in line, it's awfully noticeable--something you'd expect NY's highest billing (was? is?) AM would fix ASAP.

Again, what I did seem to hear was digital sideband noise of each stations' OWN HD, not another's.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

This is funny as hell. Someone finally makes a demo in the most RF congested part of the country that debunks all the interference whining you hear here and the silence from the anti-HD guys is deafening.

I guess it is hard to argue against the proof when it's right there for everyone to hear!

No silence, and the all the debunking is being done by HD opponents, not supporters.

Recording a few MP3 audio streams of selected stations from a few locations does not prove HD Radio does not cause buzz and interference.

I'm sure R. F. Burns knows that, and has posted his audio streams as a deception.
Red Herrings again.
Does the R. F. stand for Red Fish?

Audio recordings can be selected, processed, edited, misrepresented and even faked.
HD supporters have already posted some misrepresented, distorted audio files right here on this very website.

R. F. Burns and others, your audio files are bunk, and prove nothing, except your willingness to stoop to any lengths to decieve to promote HD Radio.
Nothing new there, HD radio has been a deception and fraud since iBiquity first deceived the FCC by calling it In Band On Channel. The HD stands for High Deception.
To debunk your posts and audio files has been my pleasure. ;D

Clearly your recording of a radio not receiving interference or being jammed BY IBOC is not correct. THERE IS INTERFERENCE!! I have read it on Hundreds of posts by "Say No TO IBOC" and "Supercaster" and "700WLW" and [OK sorry I can't keep up with wlws lastest screen name".]

So I offer to you... The Top Ten Reasons why the HD recordings on Radio-info.com are incorrect...

#10 Real world conditions aren't like a Lab. It causes interference, but you just don't hear it. This situation never happened.

#9 RF BURNS is actually not a real person because he uses a handle. People who use "Handles" should not be taken seriously. The heck with the recording. Listen to 700WLW or Supercaster. They're reputable.

#8 RF Burns used actual observations rather than trying to find a problem. He didn't use facts. I'll bet at 12 noon, You can't get WLW in center city Manhatten. Must be IBOC "JAMMING". No WLW = HD sucks. The "Cotillion" just doesn't get it. IBOC stops me from getting WLW in Manhatten. Hell it's only 700 miles away.

#7 The recordings are doctored. My friend's cousin's sister's boyfriend's roomate's cousin's co-worker told me the story. And they SAW it!! (They're talking to Inside Edition right now)

#6 A 25 year radio veteran heard the Off Air AM HD recording on our station studio monitors today and said "God Dammit, when you comnpare that to how we sounded, that sounds a heck of a lot" [truncated]"compared to how we sounded in the 70's".

#5 RF Burns got FM jocks in NY to play like they were on AM and then BS'ed us all

#4 IBOC adds rf to the signal and people who hear it are overloaded with rf and are saying they don't hear it, but it's RF poisoning , but really they do... there IS interference... And Jamming too. HD radio sucks.

#3 Radio Programming sucks. People who see a value in HD are associated with radio programmers. Therefore THEY suck. Therefore HD radio Sucks. Therefore the Recordings MUST Suck

#2 HD Radio is flawed technology, because there is no one left to program it because Clear Channel is going out of business. Therefore the Products suck. Therefore the recordings suck...

And NOW ..the

#1 Reason why "the HD recordings on Radio-info.com are incorrect..."....

"I don't care about the reality. I HATE THE IDEA!! I "LOVE" AM DX. I live for the days when I could listen to CKLW In Philly. WLW in Mid Michigan. And PJB in S. Texas. And no amount of reality is getting in my way... I HATE HD radio. It Sucks. And you can believe it because I said so.

The Anti-HD world...

and then there's
Clouseau

Clouseau's fantasy world.
None of the anti-HD posters you named said anything even remotely similar to what you claimed. You completely trashed anything that might have been left of your credibility, and have become completely unhinged.
HD seems to do that to supporters who equate HD Radio with the second coming.

 

[R.F. Burns]

It wasn't my intention to imply that the IBOC is all over 2nd and 3rd adjacents. I wasn't sure for a long time if there was noise and interference until I heard demos and found some real-world examples in my (distant) area. And I can conclude, at least with my equipment, that there is no noticeable 2nd/3rd adjacent; your samples back that up.

But I still say the hiss from the digital sidebands was at least noticeable, if not obvious on a few of the stations. If WFAN has some other noise in line, it's awfully noticeable--something you'd expect NY's highest billing (was? is?) AM would fix ASAP.

Again, what I did seem to hear was digital sideband noise of each stations' OWN HD, not another's.

OK, WHen I made that recording I had the treble control turned all the way up. I didn't hear what you say you heard but today I willl make another recording with the radio set flat. You can listen again and tell me whether you hear his on the audio. As for WFAN, I know that they have many technical issues at their present location. They are in the basement of a building in Queens.

 

[clouseau]

This is funny as hell. Someone finally makes a demo in the most RF congested part of the country that debunks all the interference whining you hear here and the silence from the anti-HD guys is deafening.

I guess it is hard to argue against the proof when it's right there for everyone to hear!

No silence, and the all the debunking is being done by HD opponents, not supporters.

Recording a few MP3 audio streams of selected stations from a few locations does not prove HD Radio does not cause buzz and interference.

I'm sure R. F. Burns knows that, and has posted his audio streams as a deception.
Red Herrings again.
Does the R. F. stand for Red Fish?

Audio recordings can be selected, processed, edited, misrepresented and even faked.
HD supporters have already posted some misrepresented, distorted audio files right here on this very website.

R. F. Burns and others, your audio files are bunk, and prove nothing, except your willingness to stoop to any lengths to decieve to promote HD Radio.
Nothing new there, HD radio has been a deception and fraud since iBiquity first deceived the FCC by calling it In Band On Channel. The HD stands for High Deception.
To debunk your posts and audio files has been my pleasure. ;D

Clearly your recording of a radio not receiving interference or being jammed BY IBOC is not correct. THERE IS INTERFERENCE!! I have read it on Hundreds of posts by "Say No TO IBOC" and "Supercaster" and "700WLW" and [OK sorry I can't keep up with wlws lastest screen name".]

So I offer to you... The Top Ten Reasons why the HD recordings on Radio-info.com are incorrect...

#10 Real world conditions aren't like a Lab. It causes interference, but you just don't hear it. This situation never happened.

#9 RF BURNS is actually not a real person because he uses a handle. People who use "Handles" should not be taken seriously. The heck with the recording. Listen to 700WLW or Supercaster. They're reputable.

#8 RF Burns used actual observations rather than trying to find a problem. He didn't use facts. I'll bet at 12 noon, You can't get WLW in center city Manhatten. Must be IBOC "JAMMING". No WLW = HD sucks. The "Cotillion" just doesn't get it. IBOC stops me from getting WLW in Manhatten. Hell it's only 700 miles away.

#7 The recordings are doctored. My friend's cousin's sister's boyfriend's roomate's cousin's co-worker told me the story. And they SAW it!! (They're talking to Inside Edition right now)

#6 A 25 year radio veteran heard the Off Air AM HD recording on our station studio monitors today and said "God Dammit, when you comnpare that to how we sounded, that sounds a heck of a lot" [truncated]"compared to how we sounded in the 70's".

#5 RF Burns got FM jocks in NY to play like they were on AM and then BS'ed us all

#4 IBOC adds rf to the signal and people who hear it are overloaded with rf and are saying they don't hear it, but it's RF poisoning , but really they do... there IS interference... And Jamming too. HD radio sucks.

#3 Radio Programming sucks. People who see a value in HD are associated with radio programmers. Therefore THEY suck. Therefore HD radio Sucks. Therefore the Recordings MUST Suck

#2 HD Radio is flawed technology, because there is no one left to program it because Clear Channel is going out of business. Therefore the Products suck. Therefore the recordings suck...

And NOW ..the

#1 Reason why "the HD recordings on Radio-info.com are incorrect..."....

"I don't care about the reality. I HATE THE IDEA!! I "LOVE" AM DX. I live for the days when I could listen to CKLW In Philly. WLW in Mid Michigan. And PJB in S. Texas. And no amount of reality is getting in my way... I HATE HD radio. It Sucks. And you can believe it because I said so.

The Anti-HD world...

and then there's
Clouseau

Clouseau's fantasy world.
None of the anti-HD posters you named said anything even remotely similar to what you claimed. You completely trashed anything that might have been left of your credibility, and have become completely unhinged.
HD seems to do that to supporters who equate HD Radio with the second coming.

Hey Soup...

Next time you're watching TV at night, after you late local news is on, tune to your local CBS TV station. On there is a show called "The Late Show with David Letterman". You ought to watch it once. About 25 minutes in there is a feature called the "Top Ten List". It's ususally a joke about something topical going on. Lots of people think it's really funny. In fact a bunch of radio stations play it backthe next morning.

The post you quoted.... It was patterened after this comedy piece and was a JOKE!
I think most people will take it that way.
Sorry if it got by you... Definition of a joke at the bottom of this post.

Clouseau



From Dictionary.com...

joke –noun

something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act.