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The situation come January 3rd

J

Jacko

With K-Rock going to a most-talk format at the beginning of next year (playing some rock on weekends), will any of the other stations or their owners jump at flipping any of their stations to fill the void. Reason I bring this up is there are 5 stations (WPLJ, WCBS-FM, WNEW, WKTU and WLTW) that share about 60-70% of the same music. Such an overlap has brought only one definite front-runner (WLTW) and 4 laggers near the back of the pack. Perhaps WPLJ does the best of the other 4 based on billing. This may be a good opportunity for either ABC or Clear Channel to launch a rocker (hopefully alternative) to the market. Clear Channel has a number of alternative stations around the country(yes, they're cookie-cutter and play lots of Nickelback, but NYC would take anything at this point). With Howard Stern leaving the airwaves, rock stations that remain will probably see a gain in the ratings, believe it or not, because the Stern listeners now that won't get Sirius--and there will be a lot of them--will be tuning in to the local rock/alternative/classic rock station. And the Stern listeners that do get Sirius to follow Stern won't even be tracked by Arbitron in the first place. If no other station flips to rock after K-Rock departs, expect Q104.3 to be in the top 5 12+, and top 3 25-54. And I'm not joking.

So Clear Channel, how about bring the rock to 103.5?

Jacko <P ID="signature">______________
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And a pocket full of gold.
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Jacko on 10/27/05 12:39 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> With K-Rock going to a most-talk format at the beginning of
> next year (playing some rock on weekends), will any of the
> other stations or their owners jump at flipping any of their
> stations to fill the void. Reason I bring this up is there
> are 5 stations (WPLJ, WCBS-FM, WNEW, WKTU and WLTW) that
> share about 60-70% of the same music. Such an overlap has
> brought only one definite front-runner (WLTW) and 4 laggers
> near the back of the pack. Perhaps WPLJ does the best of
> the other 4 based on billing. This may be a good
> opportunity for either ABC or Clear Channel to launch a
> rocker (hopefully alternative) to the market. Clear Channel
> has a number of alternative stations around the country(yes,
> they're cookie-cutter and play lots of Nickelback, but NYC
> would take anything at this point). With Howard Stern
> leaving the airwaves, rock stations that remain will
> probably see a gain in the ratings, believe it or not,
> because the Stern listeners now that won't get Sirius--and
> there will be a lot of them--will be tuning in to the local
> rock/alternative/classic rock station. And the Stern
> listeners that do get Sirius to follow Stern won't even be
> tracked by Arbitron in the first place. If no other station
> flips to rock after K-Rock departs, expect Q104.3 to be in
> the top 5 12+, and top 3 25-54. And I'm not joking.
>
> So Clear Channel, how about bringing back the rock to 102.7?
>
>
> Jacko
>
Just to nitpick, CC doesn't own 102.7 WNEW.

Infinity owns it, just as they own 92.3 WXRK<P ID="signature">______________

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> Just to nitpick, CC doesn't own 102.7 WNEW.
>
> Infinity owns it, just as they own 92.3 WXRK
>
Crap, you're right. 103.5 then. That's a CC station.

But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when they had the chance?

Jacko<P ID="signature">______________
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And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
 
> But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when they
> had the chance?
>
Because after the Opie and Anthony fiasco the talk format failed.
By the way in the NYC. market where rock doesn't fair well it is unlikely that any dance station will change formats to rock.
 
If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio changes would have to be approved by the FCC!
corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple months wccc has become pretty crappy as well.
> > But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when they
>
> > had the chance?
> >
> Because after the Opie and Anthony fiasco the talk format
> failed.
> By the way in the NYC. market where rock doesn't fair well
> it is unlikely that any dance station will change formats to
> rock.
>
 
> If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and
> sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio changes
> would have to be approved by the FCC!
> corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple
> months wccc has become pretty crappy as well.

These posts are getting old. The FCC doesn't monitor formats, and owners program stations based on demand. If the only good AMs are taken, you can't come in and launch a successful format on 1660 or whatever other fleawatt signal you choose. If a talk format bills as well as music FMs with higher ratings, who cares?
 
> > Just to nitpick, CC doesn't own 102.7 WNEW.
> >
> > Infinity owns it, just as they own 92.3 WXRK
> >
> Crap, you're right. 103.5 then. That's a CC station.
>
> But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when they
> had the chance?
>
> Jacko
>

Jacko...

CC owns Q-104 (104.3) and last I've checked...they are rock. Maybe on the classic tip but they are rock.

TS
 
> If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and
> sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio changes
> would have to be approved by the FCC!
> corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple
> months wccc has become pretty crappy as well.


If you had your way? your/this attitude is what got you fired from your dink college station that you swore Q104 and WXRk were stealing your ideas from. Do yourself a favor and learn to shut up and listen instead of saying ANYTHING, you might learn something and somehow get somewhere in radio. If you continue to be, well,..... YOU....... you never will.



A reality check from someone in the business.
 
> If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and
> sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio changes
> would have to be approved by the FCC!
> corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple
> months wccc has become pretty crappy as well.


You mean you really want our government deciding what you should listen to?

Yikes!<P ID="signature">______________
The Liberal Talk Radio Update</P>
 
> > But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when they
>
> > had the chance?
> >
> Because after the Opie and Anthony fiasco the talk format
> failed.
> By the way in the NYC. market where rock doesn't fair well
> it is unlikely that any dance station will change formats to
> rock.
>


Yep, that's absolutely correct.

WNEW was a losing proposition from the start. The original plan was to move Stern over to 102.7. Stern balked at being on the same station as O&A, and wanted to stay at WXRK. So, talent on WNEW was a bit thin. After the "Sex with Sam" mess, O&A got the axe, WNEW was stuck with an even thinner talent pool, and along came 'Blink' (and we all remember how that went).

With this whole nationwide roster of 'Free FM's', it sounds like Infinity learned from this whole mess and has a deeper bench of talk personalities to choose from 'just in case'. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Why would CC change 103.5?

>
> So Clear Channel, how about bring the rock to 103.5?
>

Why would they do that? They made a major investment getting Star and Buc, and they have beeon close to or beaten thier direct competitor lately, and are in the top few stations in NY.
 
>
> So Clear Channel, how about bring the rock to 103.5?
>
> Jacko

And get rid of KTU? Not going to happen!

JC<P ID="signature">______________
NYC & CT Radio Lover
"KTU needs to change to a current dance format"
<IMG SRC=http://www.staticfiends.com/images/beavis-butthead.jpg width=200 height=170></P>
 
Re: Why would CC change 103.5?

> >
> > So Clear Channel, how about bring the rock to 103.5?
> >
>
> Why would they do that? They made a major investment getting
> Star and Buc, and they have beeon close to or beaten thier
> direct competitor lately, and are in the top few stations in
> NY.

Sorry... brain fart. Thinking of the wrong station. KTU go away, when it bills around $40 million... no way.
>
 
> > If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and
> > sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio
> changes
> > would have to be approved by the FCC!
> > corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple
>

You may try moving to Cuba along with Audioslave. They control all formats. You can program any format as long as it is all Fidel all the time. Jam on.
 
> > If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and
> > sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio
> changes
> > would have to be approved by the FCC!
> > corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple
>
> > months wccc has become pretty crappy as well.
>
>
> You mean you really want our government deciding what you
> should listen to?
>
> Yikes!


...MORE THAN THEY ALREADY DO?

YIKES IS RIGHT!

This kid has already admitted to having "learning disabilities" something tells me it's a bit more than that though, his posts border on a beavis and butthead like immaturity, to a somewhat unstable sounding detatchement with reality. Rock on "OZ"
 
I'm not a fan of FM-Talk, but before you start making laws, realize that some markets are unique...in Boston, Sportsradio 850 WEEI recently was #1 in the 12+ ratings, and has been up in the top 3 for a while now...there are people up there clamoring to have Sports on an FM (they own a repeater in Providence) and it would kill in ratings....while sports is a hard sell in most of ther markets....so sometimes things are a little different....
 
Re: Why would CC change 103.5?

I agree KTU is pretty good the way they are, as for rock on KTU, Hell No!!! NYC now has too many Rock Stations, they have 101.1 Jack FM, Q104.3 for classic Rock, WPLJ etc. why bump Dance for another rock station? That would make no sense what so ever. If anything how about WPLJ turing into one of Scott Shannon's Oldies Formats with the ex-CBSFM jocks? Now this would be a good move since nyc needs an oldies station.

> > >
> > > So Clear Channel, how about bring the rock to 103.5?
> > >
> >
> > Why would they do that? They made a major investment
> getting
> > Star and Buc, and they have beeon close to or beaten thier
>
> > direct competitor lately, and are in the top few stations
> in
> > NY.
>
> Sorry... brain fart. Thinking of the wrong station. KTU go
> away, when it bills around $40 million... no way.
> >
>
 
Re: Why would CC change 103.5?

> I agree KTU is pretty good the way they are, as for rock on
> KTU, Hell No!!! NYC now has too many Rock Stations, they
> have 101.1 Jack FM, Q104.3 for classic Rock, WPLJ etc. why
> bump Dance for another rock station? That would make no
> sense what so ever. If anything how about WPLJ turing into
> one of Scott Shannon's Oldies Formats with the ex-CBSFM
> jocks? Now this would be a good move since nyc needs an
> oldies station.

Obviously KTU will not change to rock. High biller and high performance. WPLJ, not rock or oldies because they bill so high. Plus, NYC doesn't have too many rock stations. The true one is Q1043. WPLJ and Jack play some rock, but not all rock. Do you consider Richard Marx or Kelly Clarkson rock?

>
> > > >
> > > > So Clear Channel, how about bring the rock to 103.5?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Why would they do that? They made a major investment
> > getting
> > > Star and Buc, and they have beeon close to or beaten
> thier
> >
> > > direct competitor lately, and are in the top few
> stations
> > in
> > > NY.
> >
> > Sorry... brain fart. Thinking of the wrong station. KTU go
>
> > away, when it bills around $40 million... no way.
> > >
> >
>
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> > Just to nitpick, CC doesn't own 102.7 WNEW.
> >
> > Infinity owns it, just as they own 92.3 WXRK
> >
> Crap, you're right. 103.5 then. That's a CC station.

Not happening.
>
> But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when they
> had the chance?

The all talk format failed. The main thing that caused them to fail was the Opie and Anthony scandal.

>
> Jacko
>
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> If I had my way their should be a law that all talk and
> sports should be on the Am dial and and format radio changes
> would have to be approved by the FCC!
> corprate america. this sucks! hell even in the last couple
> months wccc has become pretty crappy as well.

You've got to be kidding. The FCC doesn't care about format changes and a law that talk and sports should be on all AM? Yeah, right. Thank God your not the one making the laws.

> > > But why didn't Infinity just keep 102.7 all-talk when
> they
> >
> > > had the chance?
> > >
> > Because after the Opie and Anthony fiasco the talk format
> > failed.
> > By the way in the NYC. market where rock doesn't fair well
>
> > it is unlikely that any dance station will change formats
> to
> > rock.
> >
>
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