Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good dance stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about the scene at the moment?
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The state of dance music
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> Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good dance
> stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about
> the scene at the moment?
>
I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack of good dance music that have realistic potential to be picked up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I just haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has been released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of people have been working hard to get dance music on the commerical map in America, and there is not enough viable, ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
> stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about
> the scene at the moment?
>
I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack of good dance music that have realistic potential to be picked up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I just haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has been released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of people have been working hard to get dance music on the commerical map in America, and there is not enough viable, ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
I don't think the void stops at the US border either. The UK has been noticably dry of solid dance songs. In 2003, there was 13 or 14 dance songs in the Top 100 of year. I know it won't be that high in the future.
It's just been a long time since I've had a hard time buying music on a weekly basis.
> Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good
> dance
> > stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about
> > the scene at the moment?
> >
>
> I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack of
> good dance music that have realistic potential to be picked
> up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop
> remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some
> re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any
> crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I just
> haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has been
> released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of
> people have been working hard to get dance music on the
> commerical map in America, and there is not enough viable,
> ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
>
It's just been a long time since I've had a hard time buying music on a weekly basis.
> Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good
> dance
> > stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about
> > the scene at the moment?
> >
>
> I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack of
> good dance music that have realistic potential to be picked
> up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop
> remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some
> re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any
> crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I just
> haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has been
> released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of
> people have been working hard to get dance music on the
> commerical map in America, and there is not enough viable,
> ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
>
I don't really feel that way now though I can see where people could.
The only thing I can tell you is to give it time. Summer just started and there will be more releases out there that might suit your fancy. It won't be as bad as you may think.
TONY SANTIAGO
> I don't think the void stops at the US border either. The
> UK has been noticably dry of solid dance songs. In 2003,
> there was 13 or 14 dance songs in the Top 100 of year. I
> know it won't be that high in the future.
>
> It's just been a long time since I've had a hard time buying
> music on a weekly basis.
>
> > Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good
> > dance
> > > stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way
> about
> > > the scene at the moment?
> > >
> >
> > I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack of
>
> > good dance music that have realistic potential to be
> picked
> > up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop
> > remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some
> > re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any
> > crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I
> just
> > haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has
> been
> > released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of
> > people have been working hard to get dance music on the
> > commerical map in America, and there is not enough viable,
>
> > ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
> >
>
The only thing I can tell you is to give it time. Summer just started and there will be more releases out there that might suit your fancy. It won't be as bad as you may think.
TONY SANTIAGO
> I don't think the void stops at the US border either. The
> UK has been noticably dry of solid dance songs. In 2003,
> there was 13 or 14 dance songs in the Top 100 of year. I
> know it won't be that high in the future.
>
> It's just been a long time since I've had a hard time buying
> music on a weekly basis.
>
> > Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good
> > dance
> > > stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way
> about
> > > the scene at the moment?
> > >
> >
> > I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack of
>
> > good dance music that have realistic potential to be
> picked
> > up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop
> > remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some
> > re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any
> > crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I
> just
> > haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has
> been
> > released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of
> > people have been working hard to get dance music on the
> > commerical map in America, and there is not enough viable,
>
> > ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
> >
>
Dance always goes through lulls and highs, but lately (and this period is extended), just doesn't seem like anything is doing it anymore. 2004 was a really good year for dance, there was alot of good stuff in the USA and UK, but 2005 seems to be a flop.
I'm also really fatiqued from the constant rehashed 80's pop hits turned into house music. I just turned off the radio when I heard Global DJ's remix of that Fame song What A Feeling. Whatever happened to creating innovative music rather than near total remakes of music that faded away ?
I'm a big fan of Indie Rock, and as I watch it re-create itself after being mired in 10 years of NiN....I hope Dance can do the same. Just lately, I'm really not impressed.
I don't really feel that way now though I can see where
> people could.
>
> The only thing I can tell you is to give it time. Summer
> just started and there will be more releases out there that
> might suit your fancy. It won't be as bad as you may think.
>
>
> TONY SANTIAGO
>
> > I don't think the void stops at the US border either. The
>
> > UK has been noticably dry of solid dance songs. In 2003,
> > there was 13 or 14 dance songs in the Top 100 of year. I
> > know it won't be that high in the future.
> >
> > It's just been a long time since I've had a hard time
> buying
> > music on a weekly basis.
> >
> > > Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good
> > > dance
> > > > stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way
> > about
> > > > the scene at the moment?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack
> of
> >
> > > good dance music that have realistic potential to be
> > picked
> > > up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop
> > > remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some
> > > re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any
>
> > > crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I
> > just
> > > haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has
> > been
> > > released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of
> > > people have been working hard to get dance music on the
> > > commerical map in America, and there is not enough
> viable,
> >
> > > ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
> > >
> >
>
I'm also really fatiqued from the constant rehashed 80's pop hits turned into house music. I just turned off the radio when I heard Global DJ's remix of that Fame song What A Feeling. Whatever happened to creating innovative music rather than near total remakes of music that faded away ?
I'm a big fan of Indie Rock, and as I watch it re-create itself after being mired in 10 years of NiN....I hope Dance can do the same. Just lately, I'm really not impressed.
I don't really feel that way now though I can see where
> people could.
>
> The only thing I can tell you is to give it time. Summer
> just started and there will be more releases out there that
> might suit your fancy. It won't be as bad as you may think.
>
>
> TONY SANTIAGO
>
> > I don't think the void stops at the US border either. The
>
> > UK has been noticably dry of solid dance songs. In 2003,
> > there was 13 or 14 dance songs in the Top 100 of year. I
> > know it won't be that high in the future.
> >
> > It's just been a long time since I've had a hard time
> buying
> > music on a weekly basis.
> >
> > > Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good
> > > dance
> > > > stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way
> > about
> > > > the scene at the moment?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I feel the same way too. To be specific, there's a lack
> of
> >
> > > good dance music that have realistic potential to be
> > picked
> > > up by any CHR stations here in the U.S. Beyond the pop
> > > remixes, DHT, Crazy Frog, Narcotic Thrust, and some
> > > re-issues, it has been very dry for dance music with any
>
> > > crossover appeal and getting real commercial success. I
> > just
> > > haven't been impressed with a lot of the music that has
> > been
> > > released recently. It's very frustrating when a lot of
> > > people have been working hard to get dance music on the
> > > commerical map in America, and there is not enough
> viable,
> >
> > > ORIGINAL, and marketable material.
> > >
> >
>
get a copy of QED's Islands. Its a hot track
> Is it me, or does there seem to be a real lack of good dance
> stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about
> the scene at the moment?
>
"Loud Enough"/"Sorry,No Requests" by (me!) Jimi LaLumia is #1 Soundscan LI Sales this week, #12 in NY, the 'people" love both tracks;,dance radio is terrified of a male vocal, and subject matter that's actually about SOMETHING(Chris the Greek told me that,overseas,they went with "Sorry" over "Loud" because 'there's a war" going on.So at least there's 1 'protest' dance track out there.)The next one, "DanceFloor" is going to be very conventional,Baha Men,Venga Boys, original lyrics and story line.What can I say? throw something original out there,and everyone hides their heads,and I know the record doesn't suck because 5 different countries,with airplay therein, have told me so.
It's time to offer the listening public more than just the 'judy garland' divas singing about their boyfriends;in case you haven't noticed, that's NOT working.As acknowledged elsewhere, there's one real crossover to top 40 hit this year, "Listen To Your Heart" by D.H.T.,which is one more than there was Last SUMMER.
> stuff that's out lately? Anyone else feel this way about
> the scene at the moment?
>
"Loud Enough"/"Sorry,No Requests" by (me!) Jimi LaLumia is #1 Soundscan LI Sales this week, #12 in NY, the 'people" love both tracks;,dance radio is terrified of a male vocal, and subject matter that's actually about SOMETHING(Chris the Greek told me that,overseas,they went with "Sorry" over "Loud" because 'there's a war" going on.So at least there's 1 'protest' dance track out there.)The next one, "DanceFloor" is going to be very conventional,Baha Men,Venga Boys, original lyrics and story line.What can I say? throw something original out there,and everyone hides their heads,and I know the record doesn't suck because 5 different countries,with airplay therein, have told me so.
It's time to offer the listening public more than just the 'judy garland' divas singing about their boyfriends;in case you haven't noticed, that's NOT working.As acknowledged elsewhere, there's one real crossover to top 40 hit this year, "Listen To Your Heart" by D.H.T.,which is one more than there was Last SUMMER.
> Dance always goes through lulls and highs, but lately (and
> this period is extended), just doesn't seem like anything is
> doing it anymore. 2004 was a really good year for dance,
> there was alot of good stuff in the USA and UK, but 2005
> seems to be a flop.
>
> I'm also really fatiqued from the constant rehashed 80's pop
> hits turned into house music. I just turned off the radio
> when I heard Global DJ's remix of that Fame song What A
> Feeling. Whatever happened to creating innovative music
> rather than near total remakes of music that faded away ?
>
> I'm a big fan of Indie Rock, and as I watch it re-create
> itself after being mired in 10 years of NiN....I hope Dance
> can do the same. Just lately, I'm really not impressed.
You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance stations. I really loving Natasha Bedingfields new one. I could do a list of all the great songs that came out since the beginning of 2005 but I'm not because I know it will be large.
Maybe you've just got tired of dance and prefer Indie Rock now instead.
> this period is extended), just doesn't seem like anything is
> doing it anymore. 2004 was a really good year for dance,
> there was alot of good stuff in the USA and UK, but 2005
> seems to be a flop.
>
> I'm also really fatiqued from the constant rehashed 80's pop
> hits turned into house music. I just turned off the radio
> when I heard Global DJ's remix of that Fame song What A
> Feeling. Whatever happened to creating innovative music
> rather than near total remakes of music that faded away ?
>
> I'm a big fan of Indie Rock, and as I watch it re-create
> itself after being mired in 10 years of NiN....I hope Dance
> can do the same. Just lately, I'm really not impressed.
You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance stations. I really loving Natasha Bedingfields new one. I could do a list of all the great songs that came out since the beginning of 2005 but I'm not because I know it will be large.
Maybe you've just got tired of dance and prefer Indie Rock now instead.
Interesting, because I like Natasha Beddingfield (did when it was big on Radio 1), but the typical dance purist on this forum would slaughter someone for calling it "dance music"
I asked this question to see if anyone else felt the same way. I'm passionate about the format mate, but I'm not an apologist for it either. Surely the longevity of the format requires more than pop song remixes and remixes of Boy Meets Girl.
>
>
>
> You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe
> nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance
> stations. I really loving Natasha Bedingfields new one. I
> could do a list of all the great songs that came out since
> the beginning of 2005 but I'm not because I know it will be
> large.
>
>
> Maybe you've just got tired of dance and prefer Indie Rock
> now instead.
>
I asked this question to see if anyone else felt the same way. I'm passionate about the format mate, but I'm not an apologist for it either. Surely the longevity of the format requires more than pop song remixes and remixes of Boy Meets Girl.
>
>
>
> You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe
> nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance
> stations. I really loving Natasha Bedingfields new one. I
> could do a list of all the great songs that came out since
> the beginning of 2005 but I'm not because I know it will be
> large.
>
>
> Maybe you've just got tired of dance and prefer Indie Rock
> now instead.
>
C
clubfm
Guest
> > Dance always goes through lulls and highs, but lately (and
>
> > this period is extended), just doesn't seem like anything
> is
> > doing it anymore. 2004 was a really good year for dance,
> > there was alot of good stuff in the USA and UK, but 2005
> > seems to be a flop.
> >
> > I'm also really fatiqued from the constant rehashed 80's
> pop
> > hits turned into house music. I just turned off the radio
>
> > when I heard Global DJ's remix of that Fame song What A
> > Feeling. Whatever happened to creating innovative music
> > rather than near total remakes of music that faded away ?
>
> >
> > I'm a big fan of Indie Rock, and as I watch it re-create
> > itself after being mired in 10 years of NiN....I hope
> Dance
> > can do the same. Just lately, I'm really not impressed.
>
>
>
>
> You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe
> nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance
> stations. I really loving Natasha Bedingfields new one. I
> could do a list of all the great songs that came out since
> the beginning of 2005 but I'm not because I know it will be
> large.
>
>
> Maybe you've just got tired of dance and prefer Indie Rock
> now instead.
>
You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance stations.
I second that comment. There are LOADS of great new material out there. Since this is mostly a US radio board.. I dont think people really care about what BBC is/was playing.
This year is WAY better than 04' - It's a step in the right direction for this format IMO. I used to bitch and moan all last year about it.. but this year, there really isnt much to complain about because there are A LOT of quality tracks out there.
The big djs are releasing great records for the mix show/clubhead audiences... (which by the way.. are very radio friendly for this genre). The divas are releasing great DANCE FRIENDLY records for the pop crowd... and there's a whole lot of stuff in between.
No matter what.. there are ALWAYS going to be remixes of 70s, 80s music. I think everyone on this board learned that in 03 - and have accepted the fact that remixes is what makes the world go round. Sure.. we all hate them (on this board).. but the AVERAGE radio listener sitting in traffic during their commute... like the remixes... they also like the pop and hip-hop remixes.. and believe me.. there are A LOT more average listeners than die hard dance fans in this country.
If a station wants to appeal to a MASS audience.. then take the Sirius "The Beat" approach... if a station wants to appeal to a clubber audience, take the European/BBC/International approach that CHRles lists on here occasionally. If a station wants to try and capture everybody... take the XM "BPM" approach.
In my opinion... every dance station in this country needs to be looking at what XM BPM is doing. They have stepped up their game big time... and sounding way better than The Beat.. but that is my personal opinion. Either way, they are two very good different types of dance stations.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1Club.FM INTERNET RADIO STATION
30 Channels... 1 Club DOT FM</P></P>
>
> > this period is extended), just doesn't seem like anything
> is
> > doing it anymore. 2004 was a really good year for dance,
> > there was alot of good stuff in the USA and UK, but 2005
> > seems to be a flop.
> >
> > I'm also really fatiqued from the constant rehashed 80's
> pop
> > hits turned into house music. I just turned off the radio
>
> > when I heard Global DJ's remix of that Fame song What A
> > Feeling. Whatever happened to creating innovative music
> > rather than near total remakes of music that faded away ?
>
> >
> > I'm a big fan of Indie Rock, and as I watch it re-create
> > itself after being mired in 10 years of NiN....I hope
> Dance
> > can do the same. Just lately, I'm really not impressed.
>
>
>
>
> You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe
> nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance
> stations. I really loving Natasha Bedingfields new one. I
> could do a list of all the great songs that came out since
> the beginning of 2005 but I'm not because I know it will be
> large.
>
>
> Maybe you've just got tired of dance and prefer Indie Rock
> now instead.
>
You make it seem likes theres nothing out there. Maybe nothing YOU like but theres some great currents on dance stations.
I second that comment. There are LOADS of great new material out there. Since this is mostly a US radio board.. I dont think people really care about what BBC is/was playing.
This year is WAY better than 04' - It's a step in the right direction for this format IMO. I used to bitch and moan all last year about it.. but this year, there really isnt much to complain about because there are A LOT of quality tracks out there.
The big djs are releasing great records for the mix show/clubhead audiences... (which by the way.. are very radio friendly for this genre). The divas are releasing great DANCE FRIENDLY records for the pop crowd... and there's a whole lot of stuff in between.
No matter what.. there are ALWAYS going to be remixes of 70s, 80s music. I think everyone on this board learned that in 03 - and have accepted the fact that remixes is what makes the world go round. Sure.. we all hate them (on this board).. but the AVERAGE radio listener sitting in traffic during their commute... like the remixes... they also like the pop and hip-hop remixes.. and believe me.. there are A LOT more average listeners than die hard dance fans in this country.
If a station wants to appeal to a MASS audience.. then take the Sirius "The Beat" approach... if a station wants to appeal to a clubber audience, take the European/BBC/International approach that CHRles lists on here occasionally. If a station wants to try and capture everybody... take the XM "BPM" approach.
In my opinion... every dance station in this country needs to be looking at what XM BPM is doing. They have stepped up their game big time... and sounding way better than The Beat.. but that is my personal opinion. Either way, they are two very good different types of dance stations.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1Club.FM INTERNET RADIO STATION
30 Channels... 1 Club DOT FM</P></P>
You're missing the point. Pop Remixes and rehashed 80's music does not a genre make. Dance music is more marginalized in this country than it's been in it's history (outside of the I hate disco era).
Get some GOOD solid product out there, pop sensible but dancable and pump it on the radio. But another rerun of Boy Meets Girl only appeals to the dance fan, not to the mainstream.
Last big dance song in the USA was BT in 2003. DHT is currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on the hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the piano version ?
2004 was a good year for dance, here, and in the UK. And I'm not refering to underground product, but mainstream dance pop. 2005 hasn't been. This year is reminding me of the grim and dire year known as 2002, when a whopping 2 songs charted in the UK (dance records).
Get some GOOD solid product out there, pop sensible but dancable and pump it on the radio. But another rerun of Boy Meets Girl only appeals to the dance fan, not to the mainstream.
Last big dance song in the USA was BT in 2003. DHT is currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on the hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the piano version ?
2004 was a good year for dance, here, and in the UK. And I'm not refering to underground product, but mainstream dance pop. 2005 hasn't been. This year is reminding me of the grim and dire year known as 2002, when a whopping 2 songs charted in the UK (dance records).
> You're missing the point. Pop Remixes and rehashed 80's
> music does not a genre make. Dance music is more
> marginalized in this country than it's been in it's history
> (outside of the I hate disco era).
>
> Get some GOOD solid product out there, pop sensible but
> dancable and pump it on the radio. But another rerun of Boy
> Meets Girl only appeals to the dance fan, not to the
> mainstream.
>
> Last big dance song in the USA was BT in 2003. DHT is
> currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on the
> hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the piano
> version ?
>
> 2004 was a good year for dance, here, and in the UK. And
> I'm not refering to underground product, but mainstream
> dance pop. 2005 hasn't been. This year is reminding me of
> the grim and dire year known as 2002, when a whopping 2
> songs charted in the UK (dance records).
>
I don't recall BT being a crossover record; it was tested on the likes of Z100,but it failed the test,as did Jr.Senior,the "(BLEEP) Eye' Widelife single,and all the rest.If the dance community does not broaden it's horizons(and I don't mean just my record)things will get worse,as radio consolidates ,and more non-music people make decisions at radio.Those people will look at the mainstream sales chart,and see sales crossovers for hip hop, r&b ,country, pop ,and rock hits, but no dance,and will thereby dictate that the music buying public, who also listen to radio, are 'over' dance.
then dance gets relegated to satellite only radio, and never gets the chance to enjoy a mainstream genre status again.
> music does not a genre make. Dance music is more
> marginalized in this country than it's been in it's history
> (outside of the I hate disco era).
>
> Get some GOOD solid product out there, pop sensible but
> dancable and pump it on the radio. But another rerun of Boy
> Meets Girl only appeals to the dance fan, not to the
> mainstream.
>
> Last big dance song in the USA was BT in 2003. DHT is
> currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on the
> hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the piano
> version ?
>
> 2004 was a good year for dance, here, and in the UK. And
> I'm not refering to underground product, but mainstream
> dance pop. 2005 hasn't been. This year is reminding me of
> the grim and dire year known as 2002, when a whopping 2
> songs charted in the UK (dance records).
>
I don't recall BT being a crossover record; it was tested on the likes of Z100,but it failed the test,as did Jr.Senior,the "(BLEEP) Eye' Widelife single,and all the rest.If the dance community does not broaden it's horizons(and I don't mean just my record)things will get worse,as radio consolidates ,and more non-music people make decisions at radio.Those people will look at the mainstream sales chart,and see sales crossovers for hip hop, r&b ,country, pop ,and rock hits, but no dance,and will thereby dictate that the music buying public, who also listen to radio, are 'over' dance.
then dance gets relegated to satellite only radio, and never gets the chance to enjoy a mainstream genre status again.
There is good solid product out there. It needs to be promoted to the masses. Thats the problem. Its not the product. Remember Dance music used to be Pop music and if you forgot what that means its Popular music. A solid remix of a Rob Thomas track isnt a bad thing nor is a remix of John Legend. We need to start promoting the artists to the masses. The talent is there it needs to be pushed. Think about how much bad pop and hip hop there is out there thats getting heavy rotation. Its getting it because it is getting marketed to death. listeners are getting it thrown in their face. Ashley Simpson goes on Saturday Night Live makes a fool of herself and she still in rotation. Why? Cause they market her. Give the same money for marketing to a Kim Sozzi, Lucas Prata, QED, etc and see what happens.
Re: BPM
> In my opinion... every dance station in this country needs
> to be looking at what XM BPM is doing. They have stepped up
> their game big time... and sounding way better than The
> Beat.. but that is my personal opinion.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. BPM has gone from almost unlistenable late last year to my #1 preset right now. They're just picking all the right new songs, and peppering in some great golds from a few years ago. I had been using z103.5 as my place to hear new dance for a long time, but BPM has totally taken over that slot.
> In my opinion... every dance station in this country needs
> to be looking at what XM BPM is doing. They have stepped up
> their game big time... and sounding way better than The
> Beat.. but that is my personal opinion.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. BPM has gone from almost unlistenable late last year to my #1 preset right now. They're just picking all the right new songs, and peppering in some great golds from a few years ago. I had been using z103.5 as my place to hear new dance for a long time, but BPM has totally taken over that slot.
I'm not sure FM radio is the place for dance music anymore (and I question if FM radio is the place for MUSIC anymore). It's no secret that Dance Radio has been a dreadful failure in the USA/Canada. Excluding a handful of mixed stations, there isn't much going on in the FM world.
But...dance fans have long found the net as the solution. I find it incredible to think that I started streaming audio in 1997ish, which is nearly 8 years.
But the most telling point, at least for me is that long ago, I feared that my "station" would close down and I'd be left without music. I remember the day in 1988 when CFNY went pop and I was left high and dry without any choice. When Energy 108 went black...well, it was tough, but I coped, using a modem and the odd Euro stream.
Today, just weeks away from my first Sirius radio, a sound system on my computer (and no radio in the house), it's really irrelevant if dance music is played on the radio. The only sticking point is my car, where I had to endure channel flicking looking for anything. Once Sirius is up and running, tada, problem solved.
Maybe in the new world of media, dance music will get played next to 50 cent or Gwen Stefani and no one will blink an eye. Just like CING FM Energy 108 did successfully before it changed formats.
The future of "dance music delivery" has NEVER been brighter.
> >
> I don't recall BT being a crossover record; it was tested on
> the likes of Z100,but it failed the test,as did
> Jr.Senior,the "(BLEEP) Eye' Widelife single,and all the
> rest.If the dance community does not broaden it's
> horizons(and I don't mean just my record)things will get
> worse,as radio consolidates ,and more non-music people make
> decisions at radio.Those people will look at the mainstream
> sales chart,and see sales crossovers for hip hop, r&b
> ,country, pop ,and rock hits, but no dance,and will thereby
> dictate that the music buying public, who also listen to
> radio, are 'over' dance.
> then dance gets relegated to satellite only radio, and never
> gets the chance to enjoy a mainstream genre status again.
>
But...dance fans have long found the net as the solution. I find it incredible to think that I started streaming audio in 1997ish, which is nearly 8 years.
But the most telling point, at least for me is that long ago, I feared that my "station" would close down and I'd be left without music. I remember the day in 1988 when CFNY went pop and I was left high and dry without any choice. When Energy 108 went black...well, it was tough, but I coped, using a modem and the odd Euro stream.
Today, just weeks away from my first Sirius radio, a sound system on my computer (and no radio in the house), it's really irrelevant if dance music is played on the radio. The only sticking point is my car, where I had to endure channel flicking looking for anything. Once Sirius is up and running, tada, problem solved.
Maybe in the new world of media, dance music will get played next to 50 cent or Gwen Stefani and no one will blink an eye. Just like CING FM Energy 108 did successfully before it changed formats.
The future of "dance music delivery" has NEVER been brighter.
> >
> I don't recall BT being a crossover record; it was tested on
> the likes of Z100,but it failed the test,as did
> Jr.Senior,the "(BLEEP) Eye' Widelife single,and all the
> rest.If the dance community does not broaden it's
> horizons(and I don't mean just my record)things will get
> worse,as radio consolidates ,and more non-music people make
> decisions at radio.Those people will look at the mainstream
> sales chart,and see sales crossovers for hip hop, r&b
> ,country, pop ,and rock hits, but no dance,and will thereby
> dictate that the music buying public, who also listen to
> radio, are 'over' dance.
> then dance gets relegated to satellite only radio, and never
> gets the chance to enjoy a mainstream genre status again.
>
R
rdalton
Guest
dance music math
> DHT is
> currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on the
> hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the piano
> version ?
Subtract the ballad version from the mainstream airplay and you still have the biggest dance record in years.<P ID="signature">______________
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> DHT is
> currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on the
> hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the piano
> version ?
Subtract the ballad version from the mainstream airplay and you still have the biggest dance record in years.<P ID="signature">______________
http://www.RichardJDalton.com</P>
C
clubfm
Guest
Re: dance music math
> > DHT is
> > currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on
> the
> > hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the
> piano
> > version ?
>
> Subtract the ballad version from the mainstream airplay and
> you still have the biggest dance record in years.
>
i was very disappointed to hear Y1007 in Miami playing the slow version
blah.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1Club.FM INTERNET RADIO STATION
30 Channels... 1 Club DOT FM</P></P>
> > DHT is
> > currently charting very well and congrats to Robbins on
> the
> > hit BUT...what percentage of that success is from the
> piano
> > version ?
>
> Subtract the ballad version from the mainstream airplay and
> you still have the biggest dance record in years.
>
i was very disappointed to hear Y1007 in Miami playing the slow version
blah.<P ID="signature">______________
www.1Club.FM INTERNET RADIO STATION
30 Channels... 1 Club DOT FM</P></P>
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