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The State of OTA Broadcasting

Not much variety in my city (Springfield, IL) either, in the heart of a Sinclair/Nexstar market--here's what I can get near downtown Springfield on an indoor antenna without cable:

14.1 WSEC (PBS) Jacksonville/Springfield (RF 15)
14.2 World
14.3 Create
17.1 WAND (NBC) Decatur (RF 17)
17.2 Weather with some Cozi programming recently added
20.1 WICS (ABC) Springfield (Sinclair) (RF 42)
20.2 Country Network
23.1 WBUI (CW) Decatur (RF 22)
23.2 This TV
33.1 W33AY-D Springfield (HSN) (RF 33)
49.1 WCIX Springfield (My) (Nexstar) (RF 13)
49.2 Relay of WCIA 3.1 Champaign (CBS) (vice-versa on 3.2 for WCIX in the east half of the Champaign/Decatur/Springfield market)
55.1 WRSP Springfield (Fox) (RF 44)
55.2 MeTV

I've had no luck locking in WILL-12.1 Urbana (RF 9) for additional PBS (while they also air World and Create on .2 and .3 respectively). WEIU-51.1 PBS/51.2 MhzW Charleston, IL is also available OTA in the east part of my market (but only available on cable channel 189 here on Comcast in Springfield).

In addition, an analog translator on channel 28 broadcasting EWTN still operates to this day, although they are not listed in the FCC TV Query for Springfield. WSEC still operates a low-power translator on analog channel 8 in the northeast part of Springfield (with an app to move to digital on RF 36), while apps for digital trannies exist for RF channels 14, 16, 23, 34, 41, and 45 with "DTV America 1, LLC" (anyone know who they are? ???) listed as the licensee.
 
TVCOOL said:
Morgan Wick said:
What would it take for people to start cord-cutting en masse? Well, what programming is available to them if they do? Here's the channel lineup I put together based on the lineup Trip Ericson was supposed to have during his time in Chattanooga, assuming an antenna capable of picking up any station on the plus side of that big gap from 15 to 4 dB (without directional bias because I don't know any of the technical specifics of that). I'm listing PSIP ID's based on what's listed at Trip's site, with affiliations in parenthesis when it's not clear from the ID's.
3.1 WRCB-DT (NBC)
3.2 WRCB-DT (Antenna TV)
6.1 TNN (WOOT-LP)
6.2 RTV
6.3 PBJ
6.4 TUFF TV
9.1 WTVC (ABC)
9.2 WTVC (This)
12.1 WDEF-DT (CBS)
12.2 Bounce
14.1 ION
14.2 qubo
14.3 IONLife
18.1 WNGH-DT (PBS)
18.2 Kids
18.3 Knowled[ge]
20.1 WBXX (CW)
23.1 WELF TV (TBN)
23.2 WELF-D2 (The Church Channel)
23.3 WELF-D3 (JCTV)
23.4 WELF-D4 (TBN Enlace)
23.5 WELF-D5 (Smile of a Child)
26.1 W18DS-D (3ABN; I'm assuming this is the same as W26BE)
26.2 3ABN-PR(oclaim)
26.3 3ABN-DD (Dare to Dream)
26.4 3ABN-ES (Latino)
26.5 3ABN-RD (Radio)
26.6 3ABN-RL (Radio Latino)
26.7 Radio74
30.1 W21BZ (3ABN)
39.1 WYHB (America One)
43.1 WDGA-CA (TNN)
45.1 WTCI-HD (PBS)
45.2 Create
49.1 WDNN-CA (MyFamilyTV)
53.1 WFLI-HD (CW)
53.2 MeTV
61.1 WDSI-DT (Fox)
61.2 WDSI-MT (MyNet)
On the surface, that's a pretty impressive list - not as many channels as you could get from even the cheapest cable company, but it's a good 39 channels, at least nine of them in HD, way more than the analog era could have provided. But it's very disproportionate compared to what you'd get from a cable company - notice how many religious channels there are on that list, thanks to TBN and 3ABN's aggressive use of subchannels. Then, when you look past the religious channels, you see a ton of classic TV channels. How much difference is there, really, between RTV, This, Antenna TV, and Me-TV? (Yeah, I know This is primarily movies, but then isn't MyFamily TV basically RTV2?)

The lineup smacks of nothing more than pandering to the sorts of people likely to already be cord-cutting - poor people and underrepresented groups (hence, Bounce and all the Spanish channels in other markets) and little old lady retirees who long for the good old days when people respected God and their elders, dammit, and TV wasn't full of all this sex and violence crap that's on now thanks to cable ruining everything and making the whole country go to hell in a handbasket. And thanks in part to Trip's then-employer, this market is actually in better shape than many of its size.

The story isn't all bad - kids' programming is well represented with qubo, PBJ, GPB Kids, and Smile of a Child, and you might actually get more music videos than you would on cable thanks to JCTV and (maybe) TNN (and TheCoolTV is available in another market if you want more mainstream music). More current reruns are likely to be running on the main broadcast stations and Ion, and lifestyle programming is available on Create, ION Life, and in another market, LiveWell Network. BET (or at least TV One) fans have Bounce, CMT (or at least GAC) fans have TNN, Spike fans have TuffTV, and in other markets Weather Channel fans (or at least fans of what used to be the Weather Channel) have too many options to count. And PBS pretty much has the market cornered on documentaries, though good luck finding anything like MythBusters. But I still don't expect most people to see this as a viable alternative to cable. What's missing?

We'll ignore the lack of a replacement for ESPN (sorry, America One) since the skyrocketing costs of sports are a big reason for cord-cutting to begin with, but you still don't have:

Original scripted programming for adults outside the major networks. What is the backbone of the popularity of TBS, TNT, USA, AMC, HBO? It's not sports; it's scripted programming that's been making broadcast envious for over a decade. The real cure for this will be if networks like HBO make their programming more widely available to people willing to pay a fee for just their streaming services, and quite a few cable shows are in fact available online at places like Hulu for free, but outside the major networks broadcast television doesn't really have a "killer app" for people to tune in. How much original programming is there at all outside the major networks? Ion seems to be trying hardest with WWE Main Event, but that's about it. (Worth noting that cable will always have an advantage because of how much the FCC meddles in broadcasters' affairs with limits on profanity, nudity, and other things, and its E/I requirements that also limit the quality of programming on the kids' networks. Incidentally, the fact that Transformers, the most blatant "30-minute toy commercial" of all time, is now a cornerstone of 80s nostalgia, should give those who have long crusaded against the commercialization of kids' television pause - it's not incompatible with entertainment or even quality.)

Twenty-four-hour news networks. Oh, some larger markets may have local news stations giving local news anchors something to do between newscasts, but stations providing national or international news are exceedingly rare - if you're really lucky, you might find a PBS or other station showing BBC World News, RT, Al Jazeera English, or MHz Networks, but they're very highly scattered. And yet one of the hopes for cord-cutting and a la carte is that it'll cripple the Fox-MSNBC hegemony by letting the silent majority vote for real news.

Dumb reality shows, of the sort airing on channels like TLC and MTV. This really falls into the same category as "scripted television" above, but in a more general sense, there's very little outside the major networks appealing to the "sweet spot" of "young" viewer advertisers crave, that might be most willing to cord-cut, and that might be needed for cord-cutting to really take off. Other than Tuff TV (and while I'm at it, Untamed Sports) and maybe TheCoolTV and America One (which I'm not familiar with), the main channels appealing to that group might be JCTV and maybe Dare to Dream. Ouch. Sports are part of the problem here, but what reason would even a non-sports-loving young person have to cord-cut? Again, FCC and parent-group meddling might be part of the problem here, and I'm not saying broadcast has to provide something you can't get on cable, but if the major networks and their affiliates are the only ones trying it just highlights broadcast's weaknesses - and how much of a waste of space the multicast options that are out there now must seem to the average customer.

Limited options for women. Women don't just watch Food Network and HGTV, they also watch Lifetime and Oxygen. But even the classic TV channels offer little in the way of shows appealing to them, and for that matter, while I have (obviously) very limited experience with them, the lifestyle channels seem kinda same-y as well. There are some reality-type shows on the likes of LiveWell and Create, but both seem to be primarily oriented towards actually "educational" programming. Given everything else, it actually surprises me that we have TuffTV (and Untamed Sports) but no obvious female equivalent.

C-SPAN. I don't want to be too nitpicky about this, and many PBS stations have legislative coverage on subchannels (hell, this particular incarnation of Create appears to have Tennessee state legislature coverage), but if this is the market we're going for, why not give the political junkies within that market the channel they tend to stick to now?

I'm sure you're going to say that I'm way off-base on specifics, and I admit I'm enough of a sports junkie that I don't have a good grasp of what the rest of the cable-subscribing landscape is like (and for that matter maybe there aren't that many cord-cutting cheerleaders on this forum), but it really does seem like the programming available OTA outside the major networks is a vast wasteland compared to cable. This might reflect a chicken-and-egg problem, where cord-cutting would need to accelerate for there to be enough programming to reward it, but the fact is that for all the hype, I don't see how the reality of cord-cutting is really that attractive an option right now. The good news is there's quite a bit of redundancy; the bad news is that I don't see what the motivation would be to reduce it, or in the case of religious broadcasters, even how they would do it - though the fact TBN is running something like JCTV instead of a family-friendly network like Ion or MyFamily TV might be telling, even if only of religious broadcasters' attitude towards all of TV beyond their own studios.

I use this same idea look what I can get with 2 antennas (1 or 2 Amplified OTA indoor Antennas) connected to 1 wire (plus a antenna booster)

2-1 WGBH (PBS)*
2-2 WGBH World
4-1 WBZ (CBS)*
5-1 WCVB (ABC)*
5-2 Me-TV Boston
6-1 WLNE (ABC)**
6-2 Live Well
7-1 WHDH (NBC)*
7-2 This TV
10-1 WJAR (NBC)**
10-2 Me-TV New Bedford/Providence
12-1 WPRI (CBS)**
12-2 Cool-TV
25-1 WFXT (Fox)*
27-1 WUNI (Univision)*
27-1 LATV Boston
28-1 WLWC (CW)**
28-2 LATV Providence
36-1 WSBE (PBS)**
36-2 Learn
36-3 VMe
38-1 WSBK (My Network TV)*
44-1 WGBX*
44-2 World
64-1 WNAC (Fox)**
64-2 MyRITV (My Network TV)
69-1 Ion**
69-2 Qubo
69-3 Ion Life
69-4 Shop TV

*-Boston
**-Providence

So far I cant get 24-1 MundoFox ,50-1 Telemundo and 56-1 WLVI (CW) but with this choices of what to watch 23-30 channels ,Fox 25 comes in HD than if u was watching it on Comcast.
 
TVCOOL said:
Morgan Wick said:
What would it take for people to start cord-cutting en masse? Well, what programming is available to them if they do? Here's the channel lineup I put together based on the lineup Trip Ericson was supposed to have during his time in Chattanooga, assuming an antenna capable of picking up any station on the plus side of that big gap from 15 to 4 dB (without directional bias because I don't know any of the technical specifics of that). I'm listing PSIP ID's based on what's listed at Trip's site, with affiliations in parenthesis when it's not clear from the ID's.
3.1 WRCB-DT (NBC)
3.2 WRCB-DT (Antenna TV)
6.1 TNN (WOOT-LP)
6.2 RTV
6.3 PBJ
6.4 TUFF TV
9.1 WTVC (ABC)
9.2 WTVC (This)
12.1 WDEF-DT (CBS)
12.2 Bounce
14.1 ION
14.2 qubo
14.3 IONLife
18.1 WNGH-DT (PBS)
18.2 Kids
18.3 Knowled[ge]
20.1 WBXX (CW)
23.1 WELF TV (TBN)
23.2 WELF-D2 (The Church Channel)
23.3 WELF-D3 (JCTV)
23.4 WELF-D4 (TBN Enlace)
23.5 WELF-D5 (Smile of a Child)
26.1 W18DS-D (3ABN; I'm assuming this is the same as W26BE)
26.2 3ABN-PR(oclaim)
26.3 3ABN-DD (Dare to Dream)
26.4 3ABN-ES (Latino)
26.5 3ABN-RD (Radio)
26.6 3ABN-RL (Radio Latino)
26.7 Radio74
30.1 W21BZ (3ABN)
39.1 WYHB (America One)
43.1 WDGA-CA (TNN)
45.1 WTCI-HD (PBS)
45.2 Create
49.1 WDNN-CA (MyFamilyTV)
53.1 WFLI-HD (CW)
53.2 MeTV
61.1 WDSI-DT (Fox)
61.2 WDSI-MT (MyNet)
On the surface, that's a pretty impressive list - not as many channels as you could get from even the cheapest cable company, but it's a good 39 channels, at least nine of them in HD, way more than the analog era could have provided. But it's very disproportionate compared to what you'd get from a cable company - notice how many religious channels there are on that list, thanks to TBN and 3ABN's aggressive use of subchannels. Then, when you look past the religious channels, you see a ton of classic TV channels. How much difference is there, really, between RTV, This, Antenna TV, and Me-TV? (Yeah, I know This is primarily movies, but then isn't MyFamily TV basically RTV2?)

The lineup smacks of nothing more than pandering to the sorts of people likely to already be cord-cutting - poor people and underrepresented groups (hence, Bounce and all the Spanish channels in other markets) and little old lady retirees who long for the good old days when people respected God and their elders, dammit, and TV wasn't full of all this sex and violence crap that's on now thanks to cable ruining everything and making the whole country go to hell in a handbasket. And thanks in part to Trip's then-employer, this market is actually in better shape than many of its size.

The story isn't all bad - kids' programming is well represented with qubo, PBJ, GPB Kids, and Smile of a Child, and you might actually get more music videos than you would on cable thanks to JCTV and (maybe) TNN (and TheCoolTV is available in another market if you want more mainstream music). More current reruns are likely to be running on the main broadcast stations and Ion, and lifestyle programming is available on Create, ION Life, and in another market, LiveWell Network. BET (or at least TV One) fans have Bounce, CMT (or at least GAC) fans have TNN, Spike fans have TuffTV, and in other markets Weather Channel fans (or at least fans of what used to be the Weather Channel) have too many options to count. And PBS pretty much has the market cornered on documentaries, though good luck finding anything like MythBusters. But I still don't expect most people to see this as a viable alternative to cable. What's missing?

We'll ignore the lack of a replacement for ESPN (sorry, America One) since the skyrocketing costs of sports are a big reason for cord-cutting to begin with, but you still don't have:

Original scripted programming for adults outside the major networks. What is the backbone of the popularity of TBS, TNT, USA, AMC, HBO? It's not sports; it's scripted programming that's been making broadcast envious for over a decade. The real cure for this will be if networks like HBO make their programming more widely available to people willing to pay a fee for just their streaming services, and quite a few cable shows are in fact available online at places like Hulu for free, but outside the major networks broadcast television doesn't really have a "killer app" for people to tune in. How much original programming is there at all outside the major networks? Ion seems to be trying hardest with WWE Main Event, but that's about it. (Worth noting that cable will always have an advantage because of how much the FCC meddles in broadcasters' affairs with limits on profanity, nudity, and other things, and its E/I requirements that also limit the quality of programming on the kids' networks. Incidentally, the fact that Transformers, the most blatant "30-minute toy commercial" of all time, is now a cornerstone of 80s nostalgia, should give those who have long crusaded against the commercialization of kids' television pause - it's not incompatible with entertainment or even quality.)

Twenty-four-hour news networks. Oh, some larger markets may have local news stations giving local news anchors something to do between newscasts, but stations providing national or international news are exceedingly rare - if you're really lucky, you might find a PBS or other station showing BBC World News, RT, Al Jazeera English, or MHz Networks, but they're very highly scattered. And yet one of the hopes for cord-cutting and a la carte is that it'll cripple the Fox-MSNBC hegemony by letting the silent majority vote for real news.

Dumb reality shows, of the sort airing on channels like TLC and MTV. This really falls into the same category as "scripted television" above, but in a more general sense, there's very little outside the major networks appealing to the "sweet spot" of "young" viewer advertisers crave, that might be most willing to cord-cut, and that might be needed for cord-cutting to really take off. Other than Tuff TV (and while I'm at it, Untamed Sports) and maybe TheCoolTV and America One (which I'm not familiar with), the main channels appealing to that group might be JCTV and maybe Dare to Dream. Ouch. Sports are part of the problem here, but what reason would even a non-sports-loving young person have to cord-cut? Again, FCC and parent-group meddling might be part of the problem here, and I'm not saying broadcast has to provide something you can't get on cable, but if the major networks and their affiliates are the only ones trying it just highlights broadcast's weaknesses - and how much of a waste of space the multicast options that are out there now must seem to the average customer.

Limited options for women. Women don't just watch Food Network and HGTV, they also watch Lifetime and Oxygen. But even the classic TV channels offer little in the way of shows appealing to them, and for that matter, while I have (obviously) very limited experience with them, the lifestyle channels seem kinda same-y as well. There are some reality-type shows on the likes of LiveWell and Create, but both seem to be primarily oriented towards actually "educational" programming. Given everything else, it actually surprises me that we have TuffTV (and Untamed Sports) but no obvious female equivalent.

C-SPAN. I don't want to be too nitpicky about this, and many PBS stations have legislative coverage on subchannels (hell, this particular incarnation of Create appears to have Tennessee state legislature coverage), but if this is the market we're going for, why not give the political junkies within that market the channel they tend to stick to now?

I'm sure you're going to say that I'm way off-base on specifics, and I admit I'm enough of a sports junkie that I don't have a good grasp of what the rest of the cable-subscribing landscape is like (and for that matter maybe there aren't that many cord-cutting cheerleaders on this forum), but it really does seem like the programming available OTA outside the major networks is a vast wasteland compared to cable. This might reflect a chicken-and-egg problem, where cord-cutting would need to accelerate for there to be enough programming to reward it, but the fact is that for all the hype, I don't see how the reality of cord-cutting is really that attractive an option right now. The good news is there's quite a bit of redundancy; the bad news is that I don't see what the motivation would be to reduce it, or in the case of religious broadcasters, even how they would do it - though the fact TBN is running something like JCTV instead of a family-friendly network like Ion or MyFamily TV might be telling, even if only of religious broadcasters' attitude towards all of TV beyond their own studios.

I use this same idea look what I can get with 2 antennas (1 or 2 Amplified OTA indoor Antennas) connected to 1 wire (plus a antenna booster)

2-1 WGBH (PBS)*
2-2 WGBH World
4-1 WBZ (CBS)*
5-1 WCVB (ABC)*
5-2 Me-TV Boston
6-1 WLNE (ABC)**
6-2 Live Well
7-1 WHDH (NBC)*
7-2 This TV
10-1 WJAR (NBC)**
10-2 Me-TV New Bedford/Providence
12-1 WPRI (CBS)**
12-2 Cool-TV
25-1 WFXT (Fox)*
27-1 WUNI (Univision)*
27-1 LATV Boston
28-1 WLWC (CW)**
28-2 LATV Providence
36-1 WSBE (PBS)**
36-2 World
36-3 VMe
38-1 WSBK (My Network TV)*
44-1 WGBX*
44-2 World
64-1 WNAC (Fox)**
64-2 MyRITV (My Network TV)
69-1 Ion**
69-2 Qubo
69-3 Ion Life
69-4 Shop TV

*-Boston
**-Providence

So far I cant get 24-1 MundoFox ,50-1 Telemundo and 56-1 WLVI (CW) but with this choices of what to watch 23-30 channels ,Fox 25 comes in HD than if u was watching it on Comcast.
36.2 is Learn not World
 
I didn't read the whole thread, but if it hasn't been mentioned already.. you should look at rabbitears.info
That website shows all the OTA stations and what they show on their subchannels.
 
Get a load of the very slim pickings here in the Binghamton, NY market:

WBNG- 12.1 (CBS)
WBNG 2- 12.2 (CW)
WIVT- 34.1 (ABC)
WBGH- 34.2 (NBC)
WICZ- 40.1 (Fox)
WBPN- 40.2 (My Network TV)
WSKG- 46.1 (PBS)
WSKG- 46.2 (PBS World)
WSKG- 46.3 (Create)

The Binghamton market has very poor over-the-air reception; I can usually pull in those first four channels with no problem while
the next two are hit-and-miss. The last three always come up "No Signal" on my screen.

I'd pay for cable but in one of life's little quirks the first three floors of the YMCA where I reside are wired for it, and the fourth floor where I'm located is not.
 
Binghamton is a tough market for OTA TV and always has been, thanks to the very hilly terrain. I have relatives there, and it's very hit and miss: one set of family is almost at the foot of Ingraham Hill, near the university, and can see the towers from their driveway. OTA reception is strong and clean there, but they've always had cable as long as I've been going down there, back to at least the early 1970s. Another set of family is a few miles west, up in the Vestal hills, way up high but with a blocked line-of-sight to Ingraham Hill. I can usually see the Elmira/Corning DTVs from their house (even with an indoor antenna) better than the "locals."

Another big complication for Binghamton DTV reception is that half the market is on VHF at relatively low powers. If you're having trouble with WBNG and WICZ, it may be that your antenna is optimized only for UHF and can't get clean signals from WBNG on RF 7 or WICZ on RF 8. It was even worse when WIVT was on their interim RF 4, which was atrocious. And go 60 miles south to Scranton and it becomes even more challenging: that market was a UHF-only island, so a lot of residents who had outdoor antennas had only UHF antennas...which can't easily see WBRE and WYOU on RF 11 and 13.

There's something of a vicious circle at play: because TV reception early on in the Binghamton area was difficult, and because so much of the market was on UHF early on, it was one of the earliest cable markets in the country. That meant cable penetration has always been among the highest in the country. And that meant that the TV operators in town were reluctant to put much of their very limited resources into boosting DTV power during the transition. Which meant that most residents had even more reason to stick with cable and not bother with OTA, which...
 
unclehonkey said:
Its interesting that so far only 3 people have posted what channels they get and either they live in major markets or have access to a ton of different channels. What about the folks who don't?

Don't forget people like myself that live in major markets, (Chicago) and lost all TV stations when digital came in. And I'm only 3 miles NW of Willis Tower but stuck with rabbit ears and/or silver sensor antennas.
 
I can receive the exact same channels as TV COOL posted here, but I have a Channel Master 4224 and another small 4 bay antenna antenna with two boosters in my attic, so therefore can also receive:

46.1 - Shop NBC - Norwell, MA
48.1 - Daystar - Worcester, MA (transmits from ch. 4's tower)
50.1 - Telemundo - Providence, RI (low power digital)
56.1 - CW - Boston, MA
56.2 - The Country Channel
62.1 - Plum TV - Boston, MA
62.2 - RTV
66.1 - Telefutura - Marlboro, MA
66.2 - Bounce TV
68.1/68.2/68.3/68.4 ION - same as 69.1/69.2/69.3/69.4

Note: ch. 27.1 and 27.2 are in the Boston Market licensed to Worcester, MA
 
Here's what we have in Phoenix:

3.1 - KTVK IND
3.2 - This TV
5.1 - KPHO CBS
5.2 - Weather Now (except on Sunday afternoons)
7.1 - KAZT-CD IND
7.2 - Me-TV
7.3 - HSN
8.1 - KAET PBS
8.2 - "Eight Life" (replaced Create)
8.3 - PBS WORLD
10.1 - KSAZ FOX HD
10.2 - KSAZ FOX SD (using KUTP's bandwidth)
12.1 - KPNX NBC
12.2 - AccuWeather
15.1 - KNXV ABC
15.2 - LWN
21.1-21.5 - KPAZ (TBN suite)
22.x - KTVP-LD (assorted brokered Spanish/religious services)
33.1 - KTVW UNI
33.2 - KFPH (SD simulcast of UniMas)
35.1 - KFPH-CD (HD low-power UniMas)
38.x - K38IZ-D (assorted low-power programming services in English and Spanish)
39.1 - KTAZ Telemundo
39.2 - Exitos TV
40.1 - KEJR-LD MundoFox
40.2 - Infomercials
41.1 - KPDF-CD Azteca
41.2-4 - Assorted Spanish services and infomercials
42.1 - KVPA-LD Estrella TV
44.1 - KPHE-LD Spanish Independent
44.2-44.4 - Spanish religious and My Family TV
45.1 - KUTP MNT
45.2 - Bounce
48.1 - KDTP-LD Daystar
51.1-51.4 - KPPX ION suite
58.1 - KDTP-LD Jewelry TV
61.1 - KASW CW

I subscribe to satellite TV, but have a off-air antenna, and the only subchannels I have programmed to view are 3.2, 7.2, 8.3, 12.2, 38.3 (music videos) and 45.2. The Live Well Network is a poor woman's HGTV/Food Network hybrid and their shows don't measure up to the quality of the cable networks. No Antenna TV, despite the numerous times I've contacted local stations to tell them to carry it (it shows how responsive the stations are to the wants of the OTA viewer).
 
Eric Stein said:
The Live Well Network is a poor woman's HGTV/Food Network hybrid and their shows don't measure up to the quality of the cable networks.
But you have to give ABC credit for trying! Having even a poor woman's HGTV/Food Network has to be a major factor making it easier for one to swallow their pride and give up actual HGTV or Food Network.

Since people are posting these, here's what I would get - my house is in a valley in a hilly area so I have to assume 0 dB or above:
4.1 KOMO
4.2 KOMO-2 (This)
5.1 KING-DT
5.2 KING-SD (Live Well Network)
7.1 KIRO-DT
7.2 KIRO-SD (RTV)
9.1 KCTS-HD
9.2 Vme
9.3 Create
11.1 KSTW-HD
13.1 KCPQ
16.1* KONG-HD
16.2* KONG-SD
22.1 KZJO
22.2 Q13FOX (KCPQ SD)
22.3 Antenna
33.1 ION
33.2 qubo
33.3 IONLife
51.1* KUNS-1 (Univision)
51.2* KUNS-2 (MundoFox)
56.1 (Daystar)
73.1 3ABN-EN
73.2 3ABN-ES (3ABN Latino)
73.3 3ABN-RD (3ABN Radio)
73.4 Radio74
 
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