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The state of San Diego radio

G

Garrett

Ok, let's try this again...
Anything going on in San Diego radio?

Or let me ask it this way?
How are all the stations in San Diego handling the Holidays, so far?

And, what sorts of changes should we expect when the new year rolls around?
(and please, guilty parties who got the previous thread closed, please don't ruin this one too, thanks).
 
> Ok, let's try this again...
> Anything going on in San Diego radio?
>
> Or let me ask it this way?
> How are all the stations in San Diego handling the Holidays,
> so far?
>
> And, what sorts of changes should we expect when the new
> year rolls around?
> (and please, guilty parties who got the previous thread
> closed, please don't ruin this one too, thanks).
>

Well, Garrett, the state of San Diego radio appears to echo this "forum."
Generally, stifled and downright boring. In my view, the holidays only make it worse with many going on cruise control. Hopefully, 2006 will bring some real creativity and thinking outside the box, from both air talent and Programming Depts., for a change. San Diego has been much better...let's hope we'll get back to trend-setting for the industry and truly compelling broadcasting. Looking forward to it. Have a great show.
 
> > Ok, let's try this again...
> > Anything going on in San Diego radio?
> >
> > Or let me ask it this way?
> > How are all the stations in San Diego handling the
> Holidays,
> > so far?
> >
> > And, what sorts of changes should we expect when the new
> > year rolls around?
> > (and please, guilty parties who got the previous thread
> > closed, please don't ruin this one too, thanks).
> >
>
> Well, Garrett, the state of San Diego radio appears to echo
> this "forum."
> Generally, stifled and downright boring. In my view, the
> holidays only make it worse with many going on cruise
> control. Hopefully, 2006 will bring some real creativity and
> thinking outside the box, from both air talent and
> Programming Depts., for a change. San Diego has been much
> better...let's hope we'll get back to trend-setting for the
> industry and truly compelling broadcasting. Looking forward
> to it. Have a great show.
>




tired of the xmas music everywhere BAH HUMBUG get back to the hits merry xmas to all of you though
 
> tired of the xmas music everywhere BAH HUMBUG get back to
> the hits merry xmas to all of you though

You know ...

Non-stop Christmas music has been known to create a bump in the Winter ratings, especially for AC stations.

And the least amount of format tweaking happens during December, because this is the month with the highest commercial loads, traditionally.

I'm sure things will be back to the turmoiled usual after the New Year.
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>
> Well, Garrett, the state of San Diego radio appears to echo
> this "forum."
> Generally, stifled and downright boring. In my view, the
> holidays only make it worse with many going on cruise
> control. Hopefully, 2006 will bring some real creativity and
> thinking outside the box, from both air talent and
> Programming Depts., for a change. San Diego has been much
> better...let's hope we'll get back to trend-setting for the
> industry and truly compelling broadcasting. Looking forward
> to it.
Maybe it will be better when they bring Jo-Jo Kincaid back!
Or better yet, trade 93.3 with 106.5 and rename it Q106, :)

Have a great show.
>
Thanks, Wish I had a show!
-G.
 
> >
> > Well, Garrett, the state of San Diego radio appears to
> echo
> > this "forum."
> > Generally, stifled and downright boring. In my view, the
> > holidays only make it worse with many going on cruise
> > control. Hopefully, 2006 will bring some real creativity
> and
> > thinking outside the box, from both air talent and
> > Programming Depts., for a change. San Diego has been much
> > better...let's hope we'll get back to trend-setting for
> the
> > industry and truly compelling broadcasting. Looking
> forward
> > to it.
> Maybe it will be better when they bring Jo-Jo Kincaid back!
> Or better yet, trade 93.3 with 106.5 and rename it Q106, :)
>
>
> Have a great show.
How 'bout trade 93.3 with 100.7, and call it B100, "the greatest rockin' stereo boogie machine in the entire milky way" *quote from Jimi Fox circa 1975! j/k
> >
> Thanks, Wish I had a show!
> -G.
>
 
> How 'bout trade 93.3 with 100.7, and call it B100, "the
> greatest rockin' stereo boogie machine in the entire milky
> way" *quote from Jimi Fox circa 1975! j/k
> > >
Even better!!!!!!
 
You want entertainment and cutting edge?

Do yourself a favor...

Buy satillite radio.
 
Everything old is new again, but its just old.

> Well, Garrett, the state of San Diego radio appears to echo
> this "forum."
> Generally, stifled and downright boring. In my view, the
> holidays only make it worse with many going on cruise
> control. Hopefully, 2006 will bring some real creativity and
> thinking outside the box, from both air talent and
> Programming Depts., for a change. San Diego has been much
> better...let's hope we'll get back to trend-setting for the
> industry and truly compelling broadcasting. Looking forward
> to it. Have a great show.
>



Yes it is totally boring. How can you expect 'out of the box' when it is the same programming and air talent recycled over and over again.

San Diego radio is mirroring the proposed 'toilet to tap' program. recycle the same old crap, just clean it up and say its new.

San Diego stopped being a trend setter years ago.

2006 will bring the S.O.S.
 
Re: You want entertainment and cutting edge?

> Do yourself a favor...
>
> Buy satillite radio.

Until the sound quality gets better my subscription is remaining lapsed...whether it is satillite or satellite.
 
Re: Everything old is new again, but its just old.

The market's maximum influence period was the late 60's
& early 70's:

KGB, KCBQ. As KGB was #1 in 1965, RKO
General made the decision (largely based on KGB owner
and RKO board member Willet Brown's advice) to hand
over the programming reins to Bill Drake at KHJ, KFRC,
WOR-FM etc. In 1972 KCBQ's Last Contest and Q style
format ws copied coast to coast.

Followed by the late 80's, early 90's

91 X,second only to KROQ in its influence on the format.


XTRA-Sports (now there are stations branded as XTRA
sports around the country and Jim Rome is everywhere)

The early version of The Flash, for good or bad was
the start of Alternative AC.

After that dead air...baby you can hang a lighting bolt on
that.




> > Well, Garrett, the state of San Diego radio appears to
> echo
> > this "forum."
> > Generally, stifled and downright boring. In my view, the
> > holidays only make it worse with many going on cruise
> > control. Hopefully, 2006 will bring some real creativity
> and
> > thinking outside the box, from both air talent and
> > Programming Depts., for a change. San Diego has been much
> > better...let's hope we'll get back to trend-setting for
> the
> > industry and truly compelling broadcasting. Looking
> forward
> > to it. Have a great show.
> >
>
>
>
> Yes it is totally boring. How can you expect 'out of the
> box' when it is the same programming and air talent recycled
> over and over again.
>
> San Diego radio is mirroring the proposed 'toilet to tap'
> program. recycle the same old crap, just clean it up and say
> its new.
>
> San Diego stopped being a trend setter years ago.
>
> 2006 will bring the S.O.S.
>
 
Re: Everything old is new again, but its just old.

>
> KGB, KCBQ. As KGB was #1 in 1965, RKO
> General made the decision (largely based on KGB owner
> and RKO board member Willet Brown's advice) to hand
> over the programming reins to Bill Drake at KHJ, KFRC,
> WOR-FM etc. In 1972 KCBQ's Last Contest and Q style
> format ws copied coast to coast.

A little clarification. "The Last Contest" was not copied coast to coast. Jack McCoy syndicated the contest, selling a package of the rights, the production and an operating manual to countless stations that wanted to do it. In other words, stations bought the contest, just as they buy TM Jingles or Filmhouse spots.

The Q-Style format, in 1972, was on all the Bartell stations, including WMYQ in Miami, WDRQ in Detroit and KLSQ in St. Louis. The style was copied, emulated or just evolved from the Drake era in many other markets, with the GC stations in places like Cleveland and Atlanta being other leaders in doing a clean FM CHR.
 
Re: You want entertainment and cutting edge?

> > Do yourself a favor...
> >
> > Buy satillite radio.
>
> Until the sound quality gets better my subscription is
> remaining lapsed...whether it is satillite or satellite.

How about until the "entertainment and cutting edge" gets better?

I have been sampling the XM channels that now come with my DirecTV and there is little in the way of either. The jocks sound like rejects from college radio, the imaging is (for the most part) contrived and/or poorly executed, and there is very little originality.

Simply having deeper playlists is not "cutting edge" and air talent with nothing to say is not "entertainment".

And until satellite radio shows that it has something to compare with terrestrial radio, such statements as made by the original poster will not be welcome on boards that I moderate.

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Re: You want entertainment and cutting edge?

> > Until the sound quality gets better my subscription is
> > remaining lapsed...whether it is satillite or satellite.

Sound quality on the music channels sounds fine to me.

> How about until the "entertainment and cutting edge" gets
> better?
>
> I have been sampling the XM channels that now come with my
> DirecTV and there is little in the way of either. The jocks
> sound like rejects from college radio, the imaging is (for
> the most part) contrived and/or poorly executed, and there
> is very little originality.
>
> Simply having deeper playlists is not "cutting edge" and air
> talent with nothing to say is not "entertainment".
>
> And until satellite radio shows that it has something to
> compare with terrestrial radio, such statements as made by
> the original poster will not be welcome on boards that I
> moderate.
>
> This board is for discussing San Diego radio, not for
> discussing satellite. If you are so much in love with
> satellite, go listen to it instead of wasting space with
> off-topic posts.
>



actually I think it offers more in the way of entertainment and sounds not as commercialized as terrestrial (FM is the new AM). Since I like rock music I ll stick with that right now...I like that there are 13 rock stations on XM alone. (30+ on both stations combined) there is definatley a difference between 'ethel' and 'squizz' channels and the music they play. Most FM alternative/active rock stations combine the two types of rock into one format. To me that sounds like a disaster. When I want Franz Ferdinand, I dont want to hear System Of A Down following it. To somebody my age, (30ish) there is quite a difference in variations of rock and alternative. Just like some see the difference for AC, Lite AC, Soft AC, Hot AC, Adult AC, AC AC, ect...on terrestrial radio. If your into AC, maybe FM does appeal more to you.

Most of the jocks I hear on both services, I have both, actully rip the **** out of most FM jocks I have heard. Castoffs? No way. Corporate FM radio consolidation has killed most FM jocks (no it is not all CCs fault), making them generically boring. FM radio needs the guy on the rock station to Voice Track the country and AC for the cluster too. THAT guy sounds good to a consultant or GM who is trying to save cash thru automation, but to average joe rocker, sounds like a guy from an AC trying to be a rocker. Again, he sounds good on AC though.

Think about the air talent that is gravitating to these services. Stern, O&A, Liquid Todd (eX-KROCK) Madison (ex-MTV), ect...some of the specialty shows being put together with hosts like Eminem, 50 cent, Tony Hawk, Groove Radio, ect...are beyond what FM offers me. The concert series every week? Amazing. FM comes nowhere close to the level of entertainment of these services.

Both services offer a combined 30+ rock channels, 20 somthing dance/hip hop/urban channels. Every single sporting event in the country, football, baseball, hockey, nascar. Some markets your lucky to have an Alternative station or Active Rock Station, if they arent combined into one format. Most markets do not have a hip hop station. There are no dance stations. These 2 services identified a hole in the radio listener market and are beginning to fill it. Entertaining and cutting edge. Much more so then any this the old dial offers.

And just like every guy...I love gadgets, technology and cool new stuff. I like things to sound real. Dont mind an occasional F-Bomb or fear 'tit' like the FCC does. What I do mind is homoginized, plastic sounding, mass produced for general consumption radio. That is why I got XM & Sirius, nobody was taking care of my needs on the FM dial.

FYI - I listen to Fox News, CNN, Fox Sports, Sporting events, comedy and music when I listen to the radio. Not necessarily in that order, but pretty **** close. When I do listen to music I dont want to hear Pink Floyd, Disturbed, Twisted Sister and Blink 182 in a 4 song train wreck set sandwiched between 2 4 min commercial breaks. I like all 4 bands, with satillite radio when Im in the mood for them I hit the corresponding channel. FM radio seems to neglect me and my dollars. They seem ok with putting 10 variations of AC formats on in one market, some even double and triple the same exact variation of AC, but then wont give me a rock station or two or five.

$20 bucks a month and I get 30+ channels of rock that fit my mood. Jocks that live the lifestyle and wont get fired for slipping up and saying 'ass' on air? Throw in every baseball and football game...all my news and uncensored comedy for the ride home from the in-laws? No commercials every 10 min? Ya got me!

If you think XM & SIRIUS aren't offering 'cutting edge' programming, then you must loathe FM and AM. All they offer is less songs then a 10 year olds Ipod, repeated 10 times a day, satillite fed programming and VT BS. Funny, to a degree alot of your FM dial is satillite fed. Just eliminate the middle man. Oh the irony. Wow, karma does exist.

The only thing I use the FM dial for is to tune in my XM.
 
So, we can expect ...?

> The only thing I use the FM dial for is to tune in my XM.

So, since you now admit that you don't listen to San Diego radio, and that is what this board is for discussion of, we can expect that you will now stop posting?

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Re: So, we can expect ...?

> > The only thing I use the FM dial for is to tune in my XM.
>
> So, since you now admit that you don't listen to San Diego
> radio, and that is what this board is for discussion of, we
> can expect that you will now stop posting?
>
> That is, you must admit, the reasonable conclusion.
>


Thanks for the reasonable conclusion Dr.Spock. But since there is conversation about the current state of SD radio (its disasterous state according to some here) Old stations, formats, air talents, glory days, voice tracking and ratings on this board, I feel there is enough subject matter to hold me over until, if the day ever comes, San Diego radio becomes semi-respectable again. Never mind cutting edge or entertaining. I will take listenable to start with.

For the record, occasionally I will rubberneck the accident scene that is the current San Diego sound.
 
Re: So, we can expect ...?

> > > The only thing I use the FM dial for is to tune in my
> XM.
> >
> > So, since you now admit that you don't listen to San Diego
>
> > radio, and that is what this board is for discussion of,
> we
> > can expect that you will now stop posting?
> >
> > That is, you must admit, the reasonable conclusion.
> >
>
>
> Thanks for the reasonable conclusion Dr.Spock. But since
> there is conversation about the current state of SD radio
> (its disasterous state according to some here) Old stations,
> formats, air talents, glory days, voice tracking and ratings
> on this board, I feel there is enough subject matter to hold
> me over until, if the day ever comes, San Diego radio
> becomes semi-respectable again. Never mind cutting edge or
> entertaining. I will take listenable to start with.
>
> For the record, occasionally I will rubberneck the accident
> scene that is the current San Diego sound.

Fair enough.

But any future posts about satellite radio will not remain visible for long.

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So much for my SECOND TRY!

Well, I guess I got my answer.
Thanks to ThunderBalls for ruining yet another one of my posts.
KM, looks like we can't have a serious discussion about radio in San Diego.

I don't give a crap about Sat radio, because I don't have one, and don't listen to it. And for the record, it's a rip off, when I can listen to Star94.1 or Jack FM or 933 or KOGO, (or even KIIS FM), etc, all over my computer. Why would I shell out 10 bucks a month for that, plus all the start up, when I'm already paying $50 a mo for highspeed internet? Seems like a waste to me!

That's my $2.17.<u>99</u>


> > > > The only thing I use the FM dial for is to tune in my
> > XM.
> > >
> > > So, since you now admit that you don't listen to San
> Diego
> >
> > > radio, and that is what this board is for discussion of,
>
> > we
> > > can expect that you will now stop posting?
> > >
> > > That is, you must admit, the reasonable conclusion.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the reasonable conclusion Dr.Spock. But since
> > there is conversation about the current state of SD radio
> > (its disasterous state according to some here) Old
> stations,
> > formats, air talents, glory days, voice tracking and
> ratings
> > on this board, I feel there is enough subject matter to
> hold
> > me over until, if the day ever comes, San Diego radio
> > becomes semi-respectable again. Never mind cutting edge or
>
> > entertaining. I will take listenable to start with.
> >
> > For the record, occasionally I will rubberneck the
> accident
> > scene that is the current San Diego sound.
>
> Fair enough.
>
> But any future posts about satellite radio will not remain
> visible for long.
>
> And I believe you meant the Star Trek character "Mr. Spock"
> above, not "Dr. Spock" the baby doctor ...
>
 
Re: Everything old is new again, but its just old.

Right, but for the many stations that didn't buy it,
attempted to imitate it using a different name,
but similiar production elements, voice, and
big time prizes. Some did it better than others,
it was quite a compliment I'm sure to Jack McCoy.
The funny thing was, KCBQ-AM had really no direct
competiton in the Top 40 format at this time.


> > KGB, KCBQ. As KGB was #1 in 1965, RKO
> > General made the decision (largely based on KGB owner
> > and RKO board member Willet Brown's advice) to hand
> > over the programming reins to Bill Drake at KHJ, KFRC,
> > WOR-FM etc. In 1972 KCBQ's Last Contest and Q style
> > format ws copied coast to coast.
>
> A little clarification. "The Last Contest" was not copied
> coast to coast. Jack McCoy syndicated the contest, selling a
> package of the rights, the production and an operating
> manual to countless stations that wanted to do it. In other
> words, stations bought the contest, just as they buy TM
> Jingles or Filmhouse spots.
>
> The Q-Style format, in 1972, was on all the Bartell
> stations, including WMYQ in Miami, WDRQ in Detroit and KLSQ
> in St. Louis. The style was copied, emulated or just evolved
> from the Drake era in many other markets, with the GC
> stations in places like Cleveland and Atlanta being other
> leaders in doing a clean FM CHR.
>
 
Re: So much for my SECOND TRY!

> Well, I guess I got my answer.
> Thanks to ThunderBalls for ruining yet another one of my
> posts.
> KM, looks like we can't have a serious discussion about
> radio in San Diego.

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