THE TALK ADDING KRIS JENNER...........

[gregg75]

The Talk is adding Kris Jenner and a "conservative comic" Sheryl Underwood. Didn't
realize there was such a thing as a conservative comic. Isn't that kinda like a vegetarian
cattle rancher?????

I think the AUDITION route would have been better and resulted in better hosts. Now it
looks like the door will always be revolving at The Talk. Let's talk about it.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/the...as-if-kardashians-arent-already-over-exposed/

 

[gregg75]

A bit clearer on this site.......
Jenner will guest for two weeks. The unknown comic may be a regular.

http://popconfidential.zap2it.com/2...est-host-sheryl-underwood-as-possible-regular

 

[MarcB]

THE Talk will be toast. The backlash has begun. Check out the comments:

http://www.facebook.com/TheTalkCBS/posts/238265609543718

 

[justpassingthough]

Shouldn't Comcast have all the Kardashian-Jenners locked up in some sort of non-compete? These families have made the vast majority of their money through the good graces of Ryan Seacrest and Comcast, and not through any discernable talent, as far as I can tell.

 

[JeeperOne]

How long will it be before (What I sometimes like to call) the NBC Red network decides to dump the 4th hour of TODAY in lieu of a show like The View ?? I bet they could make a go of it if get on the bandwagon NOW

If not, then the NBC Blue TV network (ABC) will take BOTH big brother Red & his best friend (CBS) to school.....

JMO......

Cheers

 

[pab]

Well, we already have "The View" and "The Talk." I guess NBC could have "The Smell."

 

[Markxxx]

What we need from TV networks is "the listen"

 

[flashback]

The Talk is adding Kris Jenner and a "conservative comic" Sheryl Underwood. Didn't
realize there was such a thing as a conservative comic. Isn't that kinda like a vegetarian
cattle rancher?????

I think the AUDITION route would have been better and resulted in better hosts. Now it
looks like the door will always be revolving at The Talk. Let's talk about it.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/the...as-if-kardashians-arent-already-over-exposed/

dennis miller is a conservative comic .

is it as rule that only liberals can be comedians?

 

[pab]

No, but generally you need a sense of humor to be a comedian and very few "conservatives" have senses of humor.

P.J. O'Rourke is an excellent example of a good conservative comedian.

 

[dhett]

No, but generally you need a sense of humor to be a comedian and very few "conservatives" have senses of humor.

That's a tremendously uninformed opinion.

 

[pab]

It's very informed, coming from years of working around both conservatives and liberals in broadcasting, comedy, and other entertainment fields. Self-identified conservatives, in my findings, have much poorer senses of humor than liberals.

However, those conservatives who DO have senses of humor (like, as I posted, P.J. O'Rourke and I would say George Will) are extremely witty.

 

[dhett]

Maybe it's you. I've never seen political leanings affect sense of humor, but they can affect perception of humor. This should make my point: I find Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to be hilarious. Liberals are so appalled by their political commentary that they fail to see the humor.

 

[gregg75]

George Will is about as funny as a cracker with jelly on it.
I'd rather listen to Elmer Fudd's political comments than his.

 

[quadraphonic]

The Talk is adding Kris Jenner and a "conservative comic" Sheryl Underwood. Didn't
realize there was such a thing as a conservative comic. Isn't that kinda like a vegetarian
cattle rancher?????

Vegetarians don't consume meat.
Cattle ranchers produce meat (to keep the analogy simple for you).
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Flagrant foul for the overreach.

I think the AUDITION route would have been better and resulted in better hosts. Now it
looks like the door will always be revolving at The Talk. Let's talk about it.

Really? That's what you think? Auditions would make the show better?Based on what? Is that how Julie Chen got on there?
Did you give this "auditions would result in better hosts" idea more thought than you gave your analogy above?

 

[quadraphonic]

It's very informed, coming from years of working around both conservatives and liberals in broadcasting, comedy, and other entertainment fields. Self-identified conservatives, in my findings, have much poorer senses of humor than liberals.

How do self-identified conservatives get to work in broadcasting, comedy and other entertainment fields
if have much poorer senses of humor?
How many of them, who have much poorer sense of humor than liberals, can even make it into fields where you need a sense of humor?
I would say if it's not just being made up, your survey sample is at best skewed. Or maybe you're comparing the beancounters and executives in the business (the conservatives) to the talent on the stage and writers and producers in the booths (liberals), or something. Something's not making sense there.

It sounds a bit like when people say something racist and overreaching, but they preface it with "I don't want to sound racist, I have black friends" so that makes it all better. The statement is still racist. You can't ameliorate statements about a whole group of people by saying you admire some of the people who share some characteristics with that group of people.

Kinda like you did here too:

However, those conservatives who DO have senses of humor (like, as I posted, P.J. O'Rourke and I would say George Will) are extremely witty.

To your perception. "If it's funny, they have a sense of humor." "If they're not funny, they don't have a sense of humor."
It's all in the eye of the beholder. It's best when that eye isn't jaundiced and prejudiced before it hears the comedy.

 

[gregg75]

QUAD you must have been the only one who didn't get the cattle rancher comment.
Go back and re-read and maybe it will come to you. ;D

 

[quadraphonic]

QUAD you must have been the only one who didn't get the cattle rancher comment.
Go back and re-read and maybe it will come to you. ;D

I got it, but it was weak sauce man.
Unlock the secret for me. Maybe your 'vegetarian cattle rancher' will rise above 'gratuitous slap toward conservatives.'
How are "vegetarian" and "cattle rancher" opposites?
How are "conservative" and "comic" opposites?

 

[DToTheJ]

Well, we already have "The View" and "The Talk." I guess NBC could have "The Smell."

Nope, won't work - has to be four letters. "The Reek" is more like it.

 

[LKellerIII]

Maybe it's you. I've never seen political leanings affect sense of humor, but they can affect perception of humor. This should make my point: I find Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to be hilarious. Liberals are so appalled by their political commentary that they fail to see the humor.

I haven't listened to Rush in years, but I used to find him very amusing - he was witty, and never seemed full of himself, despite the somewhat pompous delivery - he was quite tongue-in-cheek at times. I'd guess the reason liberals are so appalled is all they see are the outrageous clips of Limbaugh that play on the news, or the Daily Show - such as when he accused Michael J. Fox of exaggerating his Parkinson's twitching to get sympathy.

 

[justpassingthough]

I think the liberal v. conservative comedian debate is like a chicken v. egg debate. Its probably arguably more difficult to break into show business, even as a comedian, if you're outwardly conservative. The entertainment industry seems like it largely doesn't take kindly to people who think differently than themselves. One could argue that many businesses/crafts/unions have this problem, though, and that people seek out careers in which like-minded people work.

So are comedians more liberal because they work in the industry or are creative types who want to break into the business just more disposed to being of a liberal mindset? Scientists have recently started to see if there are differences in the brain between liberals and conservatives, and early indiciations are that different parts of the brain are stronger in the two sets.

One could argue that the popularity of comedians is somewhat related to the period in which they emerge, as well. Perhaps liberal comedians are more popular now as a reaction to Bush era politics, in the way that singers and artists who were anti-Vietnam war emerged during that era.

Also, the last ten years has been dominated by cultural and social wars (gay marriage, abortion, religion and government, etc). If you look at it from that angle, it would be a much more difficult sell for a conservative comic to make jokes at the expense of people with which he basically disagreed. Audiences are probably much more likely to feel comfortable with controversial topics if they feel like they're on the same side.