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THE ULTIMATE VENT ABOUT PARTY FM

Tony, you may have seen this already, but for those who haven't, one message from John Breeze's Facebook page:

John Breeze WANT TO THANK ALL YOU LOYAL PARTY FM 87 FANS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT BUT DUE TO THE FACT OF THE FCC WE DECIDED TO CHANGE OUR BUISNESS MODEL AND NOT BROADCAST ON 87.7 ANY LONGER. PARTY FM CAN BE HEARD IN NASSAU 101.5 & 105.3 SUFFOLK. WE PROMISE WE WILL BRING BACK DANCE MUSIC TO NYC SOON.Yesterday (Thu. 1/21/10) at 12:39pm

What do you make of the last line of the message? What's John's connection to PartyFM (could it be John Caracciolo-CEO/President of JVC Media, Party FM? or just a coincidental similar first name?) The misspelling of "BUISNESS" (should be "business") gives me pause, but I understand it somewhat if one is typing quickly on a hand-held device.
 
As a long time listener of Party, I think I had every right to speak my mind. I cant believe one video from some random guy would cause a station to make major changes like this. I was really just trying to get some new songs added. I certainly wouldn't have done it if I knew it'd cause Party to pull the plug in NYC. I wasn't trying to get Party to change their format, just to add new dance music. Remember, I've been listening since they signed on the air back in 1998. The last thing I wanted to see was them change formats! And firing people over one guy's video...cmmon? Its true I was a huge fan of Andre, and maybe I was a bit bitter over his departure from Party, but I always felt Party should have the best talent to succeed.
I've always realized Party needed to play Hip Hop to stay afloat, I never said they should become a "pure dance" station like Pulse.
Like I've said countless times, Hip Hop has always been a part of Party's format and I accepted that. If I've actually upset anyone over at Party than I owe them an apology, that certainly wasn't my intention. :'(
Anyway, I'd love to read the link you attached but I just get a News Feed page.

Tony Santiago said:
I just put my thoughts up on the NYDMC Facebook page. I think it is public but if you can't read it, then you need to get a Facebook account.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=12576&uid=93845172523

I have talked with a couple of radio station general managers yesterday regarding what had happened with Party FM.

They DO read what is posted here as well as other boards. The one thing that continually came back to me was their amazement of so much HATE from people regarding the station. One of them saw your video John. In their mindset being in the position they are in, if they constantly see such a "barrage" of negative on a station, then someone would have to be FIRED and a format change would have to be taken into consideration because bad publicity is hurtful.

Vic co-owns the station so he would never fire himself. But if he didn't, then he probably would have been fired. And in that sense, it is not fair because people, especially in these rough economic times, DO need to make money. Love or hate Party, Vic was trying to do the best for the dance music fans as well as keep his station profitable. And if hip-hop was going to do that, so be it. I was remaining hopeful on things.

I'm sure that JVC took a financial blow on this. That STINKS. I'm not saying that John's video was the sole demise here. But with that added on to the majority of negative comments along the way, don't think that it couldn't have been another reason why Party FM was pulled. This coming from general managers in other markets expressing their thoughts to me.

I have to make things right here and that's going to be the hardest part now. But I'll do it because the music is worth it. But I need everyone's cooperation and support here and to stay on the "same page". We need to be united in that sense.
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ok... no offense to anyone... but I think you guys are thinking too much into everything... including the fact that the video is what made party stop their NYC broadcast. No offense, your not THAT important to make a major company change everything because a video was made. That's ridiculous, so I wouldn't feel guilty about it. :) If partyfm was concerned about what the listeners on the radio boards wanted to hear they would have just changed their format... Has it ever occurred to anyone that it costs a lotttt of money to lease a signal in New York City. The #1 market in the USA. From the time party signed on to 87.7 they did not really gain too many clients, most of the commercials on 87.7 had to do with long island businesses. We know leasing the signal is expensive because pulse couldn't afford it, and they went bankrupt trying to make it happen. They probably saw it as a failing investment and rather than go bankrupt trying to pay their bills, they just went back to what they know works. Party 105.3 / 101.5. The whole FCC thing might have affected that decision, but that probably just added to the reason. If the signal was making them alot of money there would be no need to sign off. Money talks, BS walks. As for losing a dance station, they played a whole 4 dance songs an hour anyway, KTU plays more dance actually, they don't break new records, but heck, party didn't either - unless u count playing a record for 3 weeks and then never again. Their format works on long island, which seemed to be their #1 priority in their minds, which is fine. It's their company they can do what they want.
 
Party still using their "PartyFM" moniker, will this still be in tact or will they eventually go back to "Party 105" and throw in the "Nassau on 101.5" mumbo jumbo.
 
nydanceman1 said:
ok... no offense to anyone... but I think you guys are thinking too much into everything... including the fact that the video is what made party stop their NYC broadcast. No offense, your not THAT important to make a major company change everything because a video was made. That's ridiculous, so I wouldn't feel guilty about it. :) If partyfm was concerned about what the listeners on the radio boards wanted to hear they would have just changed their format... Has it ever occurred to anyone that it costs a lotttt of money to lease a signal in New York City. The #1 market in the USA. From the time party signed on to 87.7 they did not really gain too many clients, most of the commercials on 87.7 had to do with long island businesses. We know leasing the signal is expensive because pulse couldn't afford it, and they went bankrupt trying to make it happen. They probably saw it as a failing investment and rather than go bankrupt trying to pay their bills, they just went back to what they know works. Party 105.3 / 101.5. The whole FCC thing might have affected that decision, but that probably just added to the reason. If the signal was making them alot of money there would be no need to sign off. Money talks, BS walks. As for losing a dance station, they played a whole 4 dance songs an hour anyway, KTU plays more dance actually, they don't break new records, but heck, party didn't either - unless u count playing a record for 3 weeks and then never again. Their format works on long island, which seemed to be their #1 priority in their minds, which is fine. It's their company they can do what they want.
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Agreed. When folks say it isn't about the money, it's always about the money. Always follow the money. They probably looked at the financials for the 1st couple months & figured that this has no long term chance of working. Granted we'd all like to see more patience, but it's not our money, nor or we privvy to everything that goes on behind the scenes. And you'd think they'd have seen this coming before they made the agreement in October '09, so...

In JVC's defense, they did say in their statement that the current arrangement of "spending time, man-power and dollars to grow a property with a very limited lifespan does not fit our business model."
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPTY_(FM)

If it's still there, um.....things have gotten out of hand.  Here's what's stated.

On January 21, 2010, Island Broadcasting, owners of WNYZ-LP shutted down the simulcast, due to issues with the constant complaints of the listeners not playing enough dance music. Therefore, it was a biased decision made by JVC media to pull the plug on 87.7 and leave New York City with no dance music! [3].
 
there's plenty of dance on the new york air waves;
gaga,pitbull,kesha,black eyed peas, etc...
it may not be the dance you want, but it's clearly the dance that the mass audience wants,and they are,indeed, dancing to it...
 
Party is doing House Music classics all next weekend ;D

Hopefully,they will keep the current programming they have with all the mix shows and the specialty shows like Nervous After Hours.
 
You do realize that anyone can post anything they want on Wikipedia right. It doesn't mean it true. In fact, I'm sure that some stuff is being put up there by people with zero knowledge of the facts and possibly a hidden agenda.

There will be lots of rumors floating around as stories get twisted but it doesn't really matter at this point. Party FM has left the city and there won't be any dance music coming to 87.7 anytime in the near future.

jp
 
John,

I was trying to call you.

In the DANCE forum here, I did a post regarding a "refocus" of the New York Dance Music Coalition. Based on what had happened, our focus has to change back to the positivity and respect that the coalition has.

It's in the DANCE forum if anyone wants to see it.

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=161161.0

For the most part, I have to take the bull by the horns and do things on my own, without allowing agendas to interfere, or for that matter consume me. Seeing what happened made me really think about things these past couple of hours.

I will not be posting in here as much, as part of this refocus. Positivity has to happen, and based on the criticisms, I won't find that on a message board.

Time to move forward!
 
I still think a NY radio dial without dance music is like going to a Burger King that doesn't sell hamburgers.
Aren't there are other translaters that could be used to beam Party's signal into NYC? I know there's a 103.1 somewhere in NJ.
I do agree though traditional radio's days are numbered, once affordable streaming radio players and a wireless network is developed, which is happening right now. It would work well in a dense urban area such as NYC.
 
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