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The way it was...

That aircheck is a recreation that was released on an LP Called Crusin' 1960. They did different stations in different years. Hometown boy that I am I think that one is the best!

Someone has done some editing, they cut out some of the music. In fact the Dick Biondi Pick was Finger Poppin Time, and not Angel Baby.

WKBW, radio will never be as good as that again. It was more than just music....and it mattered.
 
Well......radio CAN be that good again. And it CAN matter.

The problem is: we now have a generation of radio people in management who fundamentally misunderstand how radio works. Or, to be more precise: in many cases, they have NO CLUE how radio works.

"Fourteen in a row," "getting you back to the music faster" interspersed with a giant gob of commercials and an anonymous angry-sounding liner-voice guy is not radio. It's Muzak of another sort.

Look at how people identify with talk radio. Human beings are social. We like people who are like us, or who remind us of other people we like. Content is king. Listeners are hungry for that human connection. Which is why they don't relate to today's music formats. Hell, I don't even listen. How can I expect other people to?

Radio has always been about the magic that happens between the songs.

That's why, turning the clock back to 1968, WKBW and WCFL and WABC sounded so much better than your average Southern Tier daytimer. All of 'em played the same music. But one variety had Dick Biondi, Ron Britain and Dan Ingraham. The other had a high school kid making stupid comments between records.

This is so obvious. I just roll my eyes about the handwringing that goes on: "they only want to listen to iPods! They aren't listening to radio!"

Of course they aren't. Who could blame them??
 
Bob Savage astutely observes, "Human beings are social. We like people who are like us, or who remind us of other people we like. Content is king. Listeners are hungry for that human connection. Which is why they don't relate to today's music formats. Hell, I don't even listen. How can I expect other people to?

Radio has always been about the magic that happens between the songs."

Couldn't have said it better. Radio is indeed all about the value added for the listener, the entertainment and the information and the human, intimate connection we can offer, over and above the music on the iPod or spinning in your CD deck. If we're giving enough of that, people will happily sit through a couple minutes of commercials to get to whatever exciting and entertaining we have in store for them next. Deep down, we all know that...why don't we all do radio with that in mind?
 
And while we're remembering the intimate connection, there's more to that than just the greats of Top 40's heyday. Coming from just a slightly younger generation, there's also the connection that the AOR jock had with the audience as someone who cared deeply about the music in a conversational and natural way. And there were any number of great full-service MOR hosts ... friendly, cheerful and avuncular, who were your companion to get you through the day.

Mr. Savage is right: today's personality radio is talk radio. Music radio has become intolerable; it's impossible to listen to hyper-compressed recordings (interspersed with detached VT) transmitted via over-processed signals without tiring or cringing.
 
Advocates, of which I'm one, are beating a dead horse when it comes to 'personality driven' radio. We've should have seen the death of it coming 30 years ago with the installation of automation machines. We're lucky to even feature live voices, let alone personalities, on the air anymore. I just read an old post from Mike Doyle who said he had no use for live voices on-air especially on Fickle (of course, since that post he hired Dino for afternoon drive. Go figure). The average radio listener couldn't give a flip about things like compressed signals and personalities. Maybe we should relax folks as our bitching won't change a damn thing.
 
You Might Be Old If...

You remember when program directors talked about "relating to the listener" instead of "merging Selector".

You remember when it was a full-time job to program one radio station, let alone several.

You remember when they had some input on the sound and content of commercials that ran on their stations.

You remember when they actually called the Hot Line, and somebody was actually there to answer it.

You remember when PDs "went with their gut" on a song because they actually interacted with their audience.

You remember when "vacation scheduling" meant bringing in a part-timer, not figuring out who'd VT when.

You remember when "vacation" meant being out of listening range of the radio station - at least during the day.
 
Savage was the master of being a fellow human and actor on Warm Nights ... here's a little something you and I can appreciate you old barrister ...

You Know You've Been in Radio Too Long If...


-You were first hired by a GM who actually worked in radio before becoming GM.
-You excitedly turn the radio up at the sound of "dead air" on the competitor's station.
-Sales guys wore Old Spice to cover the smell of liquor.
-You were playing Elvis and Beatles' number-one hits when they were alive.
-Engineers could actually fix things without sending them back to the manufacturer.
-You worked for only ONE station, and you personally KNEW the guy who owned it.
-You remember when normal people listened to AM radio, and only "hippies" listened to FM.
-Radio stations used to have enough on-air talent to field a softball team every summer.
-You're at least 10 years older than the last two PD's who fired you.
-You used to smoke in a radio station and nobody cared.
-You know the difference between good reel-to-reel tape and cheap reel-to-reel tape.
-You have a white wax pencil, a razor blade, and a spool of 3M splicing tape in your desk drawer - - just in case.
-You know people who actually listened to baseball games on the radio.
-You can post a record, run down the hall, go to the bathroom, and be back in 2:50 for the segue.
-The new guy you're training has never listened to an AM station. He couldn't even name one in his own hometown if his life depended on it.
-You knew exactly where to put the tone on the end of a carted song.
-You spent most of the time on Friday nights giving out the high school football scores. And when they weren't phoned-in, you got really pissed off.
-You only did "make-goods" if the client complained. Otherwise, who cares?
-Somebody would say, "You have a face for radio", and it was still funny.
-Sixty percent of your wardrobe has a station logo on it.
-You always had a screwdriver in the studio so you could take a fouled-up cart apart at a moment's notice.
-Your family thinks you're successful, but you know better.
-You played practical jokes on the air without fear of lawsuits.
-You've been married at least 3 times, or, never married at all.
-You answer your home phone with the station call letters.
-You used to fight with the news guy over air-time. After all, what was more important: your joke about your ex-wife, or that tornado warning?
-You know at least 3 people in sales who take credit for you keeping your job.
-You have several old air-checks on reel-to-reel tapes in a cardboard box in your closet that you wouldn't dream of letting anyone hear anymore, but, you'll never throw them out or tape over them. Never!
-You still have nightmares of a song running out and not being able to find the control room door.
-You run a phone contest and nobody called, so you made up a name and gave the tickets to your cousin.
 
Thanks for the kind comment, Lakemeister and fellow radio geezer! Your post prompted some thoughts:

a. "Enja-near?" What's that?

b. Once upon a time, a really GOOD on-air talent could pre-record a character voice bit "in audition" during a 2 1/2 minute record - while computing transmitter power "by the indirect method."

c. When I re-did the WNOX control room in 1978, one of the features the jocks really appreciated was the rack-mounted CIGARETTE LIGHTER, so they were never stranded on a five-hour airshift without a smoke.

d. True story from about ten years ago: a newbie parttimer, who was in her early 20s, needed a sound effect for a commercial but couldn't find it in the EFX file or on CD. I advised her the sound she was looking for was on one of the sound effects LPs - you know, "on vinyl." Uncertainly, she powered up the Technics and gingerly extracted the LP from its dust jacket. She asked: "Which sample rate should I use, 33 or 45?" I explained the numbers meant the number of revolutions of the turntable per minute. Whereupon she deposited the tonearm adjacent to the record label, not on the track she wanted.
 
Q Man is wrong

I am Michael Doyle, I assume Q man is attributing comments to me in his post on this thread.

I never said I have no use for live voices on the radio. Entercom in Rochester has more live airstaff than any other station group.
I believe you are either reading someone else posing as me or you are mistaken.

And Entercom no longer owns Fickle (sold in December 2007 to Stephans Media) so I had nothing to do with the current airstaff at that station.

Q man, who ever you are, you are in error on both of these points.
 
Mr. Doyle I was referring to a post you made in 2005 in which you stated there was no need, outside of morning drive, for local on-air talent on Fickle. Perhaps I misinterpreted your post. As for Dino, my bad. He was hired by Stephens.
 
I loved Chucklaker's list.....I plead guilty to just about every point, except the marriage bit (one marriage & still married.)
And how about changing the first point a little - I was hired by a GM who actually worked in radio before becoming GM and UNDERSTOOD PROGRAMMING!!

And yes, I remember all of SirRoxalot's list.
 
You know what this thread needs? A guy standing on his front porch, wearing shorts pulled up to his manboobs, wearing a white v-neck t-shirt, white crew sports socks and black sandles, shaking his right hand while yelling, "Get off my lawn!"

BTW, Robert Plant today celebrated his 65th birthday. Mr. Wholottalove. 65. See where this thread is going?
 
Good to hear from chucklaker. If this is the person I'm thinking, I used to listen to you on both KB and GR in Buffalo and Warm and KLX in Rochester. I submitted an aircheck for your review while you were PD at Warm. You told me it was so good you wish you could hire me but you didn't have any openings. I also met you at the old Hitchcocks one saturday night when you were working. If I didn't say it then thanks for listening to my aircheck. I know it's been about 20 years. All right all right the rest of you can wake up :)
 
Really enjoy reading the "you know you've been in radio..." lists. There's an EditAll, a nearly full spool of blue Scotch editing tape and a fresh razor blade at the ready, plus a half-filled bottle of denatured alcohol and long-wood cotton swabs for tape heads, capstans and tape guides... and Scotch white or yellow marked-leader tape. Very old school.

The dream about the un-cued record on the turntable or not having any records in the studio have given way to dreams about a messed-up voice tracks... swearing a blue streak and not re-cutting the intro or backsell; even worse if you're VT'ing for multiple radio stations.

About recording commercials in the Audition channel while you're on the air? It's baa-ack! Called multi-tasking.

By the way, Dennison or Avery? Fidelipac Goldcarts or Scotch? Do you really miss out of phase ITC triple decks? Didn't think so.
 
The way it IS

The new "dream":

Automation goes down, and you're scrambling to find a CD, and the CD carrier for the old POS Denon 950 that MIGHT work if you can only find some music to stuff into it.

BTW, there's only ONE deck that might work, so pick a good "variety" CD.

We won't go into the "naked in the studio" part. Trust me, NOBODY wants to visualize THAT!
 
Re: The way it IS

SirRoxalot said:
The new "dream":

Automation goes down, and you're scrambling to find a CD, and the CD carrier for the old POS Denon 950 that MIGHT work if you can only find some music to stuff into it.

BTW, there's only ONE deck that might work, so pick a good "variety" CD.

We won't go into the "naked in the studio" part. Trust me, NOBODY wants to visualize THAT!

Depending on the station.
Didn't some stations go directly from cart to pc?
Perhaps some stations would have to dig up the classic cart machime to fill dead air when that happens.
 
Yeziknoradio said:
SirRoxalot said:
Depending on the station.
Didn't some stations go directly from cart to pc?
Perhaps some stations would have to dig up the classic cart machime to fill dead air when that happens.
The classic cart machine is now a dependable door stop. It does not exist. There are very few available parts and those that are available cost an arm and a leg, yet another reason to download WinAmp or any number of freeware audio cart deck programs.
 
The classic cart machine is now a dependable door stop. It does not exist. There are very few available parts and those that are available cost an arm and a leg, yet another reason to download WinAmp or any number of freeware audio cart deck programs.



And yet, I know of a radio station that today has two walls full of carted music! There isn't a cart player in the building, but the carts are still there!

Kinda freaky..... like walking into a museum and seeing dead things!

Michael
 
qman said:
Good to hear from chucklaker. If this is the person I'm thinking, I used to listen to you on both KB and GR in Buffalo and Warm and KLX in Rochester. I submitted an aircheck for your review while you were PD at Warm. You told me it was so good you wish you could hire me but you didn't have any openings. I also met you at the old Hitchcocks one saturday night when you were working. If I didn't say it then thanks for listening to my aircheck. I know it's been about 20 years. All right all right the rest of you can wake up :)

Yep, That was me. Sorry you didn't get a gig then, what are you doing now???
 
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