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Rob

http://www.freedom945.com/ It looks like they are IDing 94.5 as WFDM. Any way we can issue a complaint that this is blocking WFLF as WFLF's signal can be clearly heard in Pensacola until the jammer came live. I don't know who's idea it was to block a 100KW station

If they increase power,this will mean that parts of WFLF's listening audience will be effected in Destin. He clearly needs to get off of 94.5 and onto an unused frequency. This is down right bullsheep.

Radio Locator has them working on a CP for power increase. I think he will use "were not in Panama City's market"

-Rob
 
robfwb said:
http://www.freedom945.com/ It looks like they are IDing 94.5 as WFDM. Any way we can issue a complaint that this is blocking WFLF as WFLF's signal can be clearly heard in Pensacola until the jammer came live. I don't know who's idea it was to block a 100KW station

If they increase power,this will mean that parts of WFLF's listening audience will be effected in Destin. He clearly needs to get off of 94.5 and onto an unused frequency. This is down right bullsheep.

Radio Locator has them working on a CP for power increase. I think he will use "were not in Panama City's market"

-Rob
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Why/how is the 94.5 translator (W233BH) "blocking" a 100kw station? Pensacola and Ft. Walton are outside WFLF's coverage area:

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFLF&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
 
I have to agree with rob. And, we are going to see even more tiny signals appear in the future. To just lay in next to a 100kw, even if it's not the same market that the 100kw-er serves, is bad for radio. That stretch of land near Navarre has more listenable to semi-listenable stations that LA and NYC. To have all those translators, etc. in the area is just unreal. Radio will become a relic even faster with these fading signals, signals under 25k that don't cover a market, etc. More signals is not good for the environment because the strobeys are expensive and piss off and kill birds, too.

Rob - whats the City of License for WFDM (great calls We're blanking dum.) If Wooten cared he'd a stopped this trainwreck.
 
Tibbs....I care, but this situation is the result of an f'd up policy at the FCC (my opinion... not necessarily that of my employer)

cceng
 
Translators are a tricky subject. In most cases, they are almost impossible to get rid of once they are authorized, but 74.1203 can be used to forced them off the air if (IF) someone that used to listen to a station cannot hear it anymore and spontaneously complains. Note that, although not stated in the rules, the affected station cannot solicit listener complaints. Any complaints received at the FCC as a result of the affected station's mention are treated as induced and they are voided. However, in the case of unsolicited complaints of displaced existing listeners, the translator must accomodate the listener or go silent. They can do this by replacing your radio, providing an antenna, adjusting your antenna, adding a filter, providing an alternate feed (tough to do if you listen in your car) or whatever it takes to make you happy. I don't recall there being any distance or predicted coverage rules in play, but it's been a very long time since I looked into this and FCC policy is far more specific than what is stated in the rules, so there might be some requirement for the interference to occur within the service contour of the affected station, but I don't think so.

The actual rule is quoted, in part, below.

Sec. 74.1203 Interference.

(a) An authorized FM translator or booster station will not be
permitted to continue to operate if it causes any actual interference
to:
(1) The transmission of any authorized broadcast station; or
(2) The reception of the input signal of any TV translator, TV
booster, FM translator or FM booster station; or
(3) The direct reception by the public of the off-the-air signals of
any authorized broadcast station including TV Channel 6 stations, Class
D (secondary) noncommercial educational FM stations, and previously
authorized and operating FM translators and FM booster stations.

Interference will be considered to occur whenever reception of a
regularly used signal is impaired by the signals radiated by the FM
translator or booster station, regardless of the quality of such
reception, the strength of the signal so used, or the channel on which
the protected signal is transmitted.
(b) If interference cannot be properly eliminated by the application
of suitable techniques, operation of the offending FM translator or
booster station shall be suspended and shall not be resumed until the
interference has been eliminated. Short test transmissions may be made
during the period of suspended operation to check the efficacy of
remedial measures. If a complainant refuses to permit the FM translator
or booster licensee to apply remedial techniques which demonstrably will
eliminate the interference without impairment to the original reception,
the licensee of the FM translator or booster station is absolved of
further responsibility for that complaint.
 
cceng said:
Tibbs....I care, but this situation is the result of an f'd up policy at the FCC (my opinion... not necessarily that of my employer)

cceng
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CCENG - I was just giving you my usual "give you." My gosh, of all the people who do care...Y0U are at the top of the list! Well stated, sir. The F in the FCC no longer stands for Federal...
 
I was somewhat familiar with the FCC rule quoted above and figured cceng wouldn't comment, that's why I tried to encourage Rob to complain...and get his buddies to complain too. Since the Jammer isn't hurting WFLF's signal here in Pensacola, I wouldn't be able to push through a complaint... Hell, I've got no dog in this fight, people in Destin are broke and I haven't been called down there in 6 months or so. I haven't heard the Jammer since FSU sold it. I heard the simulcast on WDSP a couple times, but didn't "listen" because Jammer 94.5 isn't "my cup of tea".
 
Well even a deaf squirrel gets a nut, sometimes, or however that goes, but it sounds like Rob has a real nut case. Literally. He has been complaining like a legit listener should on this board without any provocation/pushing of any radio station (or their stellar engineer.) And, I am sure that some FCC employee reads these boards for the heck of it. And, as an employee of the Federal Government, it is their legal obligation to note this potential grievance. Dang, CCENG. Rob is the Panhandle's Superman. Legit and fair complaints must be investigated. This ought to be interesting. So much for Freedum of the Press.
 
All I ask is that he switches frequencies and thanks. The owner won't have any listeners during the summer because WFLF will be clobbering it like it did last year.

I don't understand why we just can't have one 100KW station vs 1,000 weak ass translators down here. He's got the right idea - Freedom 99.1 has a nice ring to it and the closest station I believe is in mississippi.

-Rob
 
robfwb said:
All I ask is that he switches frequencies and thanks. The owner won't have any listeners during the summer because WFLF will be clobbering it like it did last year.

I don't understand why we just can't have one 100KW station vs 1,000 weak ass translators down here. He's got the right idea - Freedom 99.1 has a nice ring to it and the closest station I believe is in mississippi.

-Rob
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Well, it's often not such a trivial task to change channels. Sometimes it can be easily done, but minor changes for translators are adjacent channels or IF frequencies if the translator is over 100Watts. Anything else is considered a major change and requires filing only during a window, or requires the FCC to grant a waiver. So, the FCC decided that the translator works on a particular channel and unless there's a convenient adjacency that works better, the translator's sort of stuck.
 
Last I looked it's 255 watts on a CP. Maybe that's one reason why he applied for a CP. I thought translators would be easier to do as it's not a big entity as say a 100KW station. We got to get him out of 94.5 though. I don't think he knows what summertime and fall mean to his 1 or 2 listeners. They will turn to 0 listeners as WFLF will clobber him.

-Rob
 
He's been in these here parts much longer than you and he's in the radio business... he knows exactly what he's doing. It's not his fault Clear Channel put WFLA on Panama City's 94.5 and CC Panama City has an engineer capable of pushing the signal to it's limits. I thought frequency changes for translators were a little easier if you had listener complaints... maybe he's waiting for people to complain so he can get something done and find a clearer frequency that will give him better Destin coverage? The business' that "might" advertise are to the east, not to the west. Navarre is the armpit of the Emerald Coast. This area (Pensacola, FWB, PC Beach, etc...) is known as "The Wild West" in Tallahassee... I guess Washington still calls us the "Redneck Rivera". We get no respect from the Feds.
Cool rant, eh?
 
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