therealkfi.com

[nmoore6676]

Has anyone sent this to Leykis??

None of this involves scantily clad women of very low self esteem, therefore a perv like Leykis wouldn't care.

Besides, he has enough problems, entering middle age as an obese, balding oaf trying to pretend he is 20 and hip.

For anyone who hasn't listened recently, Leykis is on a real tear ripping on other hosts. Seems to be Rick Dees' time as of late.

I could never stand to listen to Leykis long enough to hear who or what he might be ripping. He managed to fashion a career on being more disgusting than Stern but where for Howard it was an act, for Tom it is the real deal. John and Ken at least maintain some sense of decency while whoring their show to the side of whatever hot button issue that guarantees them ratings.

Getting back to the central theme here and the drama at Pinnacle. The LA CC cluster would make a TV drama that if the Dynasty / Dallas genre were still viable which would rivet the nation to their TV's. Since there is a writers strike maybe they could just video tape the action and put it on as a reality series. Of course they need to get Jamie White back so Handel can blow another fuse when she maligns his two brats.

I can see the part that Ziegler says about Robin, she is a woman and women bosses tend to go over the top as ball busters because in that world they have to be to get noticed. I always wondered why they brought in a fired host from Louisville on another Clear Channel station to here. I believe that what he was fired for was a tempest in a teapot and a civil jury in the case relating case brought by the offended party ruled for the plaintiff so that part is ok. By those standards though they could well have brought in "Bubba The Love Sponge" who got fired as a part of the after Nipplegate anti Howard Stern frenzy at Clear Channel.

I think that Robin did want John to feel grateful for her "saving" of him and that she may well feel that she has no real input at KFI because the shows that are most popular actually date back to the Cox days. So the only host she could micromanage would have been Ziegler, however the punishments leveled in the Ziegler vs Kobylt incident were from Greg Ashlock who is her boss. Ashlock may have also had a few not so kind words for Robin as well so she would have felt more need to reign in "her boy" though it was probably Ashlock who dictated the move to Sherman Oaks for John's show. She had no horse in the race over the Handel vs White dust up though she may have gotten some heat for not keeping her people in line and their area of the building.

Bottom line, whenever you read something written by the fired party you need to understand that there is always going to be a "poor me" constituent in the presentation, however I see a lot of truth in there as well.

 

[doublecashkgb]

Hell Zig--goodbye to your career boy. I met your swarmy little a** at a radio convention and knew it was a matter of time before A) someone simply beat the crap out of you B) You got fired at KFI. You see a lot of your points are legit. J&K are a successful act based on fraud and showmanship. Bill Handel (a little of him goes a long way), Robin-she inherited America's best talk station, period. End of story.

The deal is, you don't create a web site to castigate all these people. You left out what an obnoxious little creep you are and how nobody could stand working with you. Zig has now outed Ken, dissed John's wife, accurately portrayed Handels two brat twins, and Robin as the second coming of Faye Dunaway in Network. Okay, cool. The problem is who the f--- would ever hire this loser again? He's done, nice writing though.
Hope you have a good attorney you will be sued for that web site.

 

[henry]

Zigler does not come across as an angel by any means, but I think one thing is clear: There is SERIOUS DRAMA ISSUES at CCLA. I'd expect this in TV, but this is absolutely absurd in radio.

I hope Ziggy gets a nice gig in a smaller market where he can be a decent talk show host and not have to put up with the crud in LA. Frankly after reading this, I feel happy to work in a smaller market. If people's heads are inflated, they float away to higher markets.

But you're right Zigler can't handle the pressure of being in market #2. To some degree I can't blame him, although if I were him I would've backed down if John K. started spazzing out, and then came back at him later during my time. You're never gonna win an argument on someone else's show. Just watch an episode of O'Reilly or Olbermann.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Mr ziegler use to be in market number 54 my hometown in louisville ky 84 whas. He got fired for saying things about his girl at the time that use to work at the fox affiliate in louisville fox 41. Los angeles radio is so much better. I enjoy it out here. He got sued though.

 

[nmoore6676]

Hell Zig--goodbye to your career boy. I met your swarmy little a** at a radio convention and knew it was a matter of time before A) someone simply beat the crap out of you B) You got fired at KFI. You see a lot of your points are legit. J&K are a successful act based on fraud and showmanship. Bill Handel (a little of him goes a long way), Robin-she inherited America's best talk station, period. End of story.

The deal is, you don't create a web site to castigate all these people. You left out what an obnoxious little creep you are and how nobody could stand working with you. Zig has now outed Ken, dissed John's wife, accurately portrayed Handels two brat twins, and Robin as the second coming of Faye Dunaway in Network. Okay, cool. The problem is who the f--- would ever hire this loser again? He's done, nice writing though.
Hope you have a good attorney you will be sued for that web site.

I have to give you that Zig did in fact appear to have a massive chip on his shoulder and his relentless pursuit of OJ at an event in Northridge showed that. I do hope he had some legal advice before putting this on line.

By the way his Websites (both the Old one and The RealKFI) are down now. I tried multiple time from different webbrowsers. Could just be an unusual amount of traffic, I'll check later.

I have never met the man and can only base my opinion of him on what I heard and the fact that he is one of the few radio hosts to personally acknowledge listener e-mail commentary. Also when I purchased his book it came two days later in a personally address priority mail package with and enclosed handwritten thank you. I don't think his head is as big as you would have it.

FYI, the word you meant was smarmy with an M.

Posted by: henry

Zigler does not come across as an angel by any means, but I think one thing is clear: There is SERIOUS DRAMA ISSUES at CCLA. I'd expect this in TV, but this is absolutely absurd in radio.

I hope Ziggy gets a nice gig in a smaller market where he can be a decent talk show host and not have to put up with the crud in LA. Frankly after reading this, I feel happy to work in a smaller market. If people's heads are inflated, they float away to higher markets.

But you're right Zigler can't handle the pressure of being in market #2. To some degree I can't blame him, although if I were him I would've backed down if John K. started spazzing out, and then came back at him later during my time. You're never gonna win an argument on someone else's show. Just watch an episode of O'Reilly or Olbermann.

The drama at CC-LA does call for a TV treatment a la Dynasty doesn't it? I believe that Zig was to begin sponsored commentary twice daily on KGIL to begin next week, hopefully the Web site won't kill that.

 

[henry]

The site still works.

 

[alexanderthepeon]

The site: www.therealkfi.com seems to be down now. Darn, I wanted to hear the audio clips. Did anyone save them?

 

[ajhenderson]

I hope Ziggy gets a nice gig in a smaller market where he can be a decent talk show host and not have to put up with the crud in LA. Frankly after reading this, I feel happy to work in a smaller market. If people's heads are inflated, they float away to higher markets.

Granted he was on in Louisville, but does his entire schtick play outside of the jaded, culturally liberal major markets? Talking about getting BJs from ex-girlfriends on the air? Do people in Kansas City want to hear this? Just like I don't think Bill Handel's pro-choice, pro-gay marriage schtick would work in any number of smaller markets.

 

[nmoore6676]

The site still works.

Still down for both, make sure your browser has not cached them.

Posted by: alexanderthepeon
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The site: www.therealkfi.com seems to be down now. Darn, I wanted to hear the audio clips. Did anyone save them?

 

[IListen]

I think therealkfi.com is either an extremely poorly written website or he's using some rinky dink server company to host his site.

Oh well. I did get to read it the day it was posted. Some random thoughts.....

- I'm surprised so many think his essay is interesting. I think talk show hosts must be better at shouting than they are at writing. It was just so repetitious and all over the place that it was like torture to read.

- In John's emails since his firing, he has constinuously promised to explain to his listeners why he was fired. I wasn't exactly on the edge of my seating waiting to hear all that, but I think he probably got a lot out of writing it. And I appreciate that he followed through on his promise.

- I liked John's show at times. He was at his best when he conducted one on one interviews. Unfortunately, the majority of his show was him blathering on and on at or near a full scream. Ack! Also, he seemed to think that he was the only person who had access to cable news and the internet. So often his 'hot topic' was something that had been discussed all day ad naseum on the news and in blogs. With the right producer and on the right station and with better discipline, I think KFI could have developed John Z. into a better host.

I wish him well, and I am sorry about his grandmother's passing.

~~~

Regarding Ziegler's comment and a few posts on this thread about the gulliblity of the listeners, I have a question. Has there been research done on this subject? It is stated as fact that the audience believes everything a host says and that's why they listen. Where's the data on that? I don't think radio shows understand their listeners very well at all. If they did, they wouldn't make so many bonehead moves.

 

[nmoore6676]

I think therealkfi.com is either an extremely poorly written website or he's using some rinky dink server company to host his site.

Oh well. I did get to read it the day it was posted. Some random thoughts.....

- I'm surprised so many think his essay is interesting. I think talk show hosts must be better at shouting than they are at writing. It was just so repetitious and all over the place that it was like torture to read.

- In John's emails since his firing, he has constinuously promised to explain to his listeners why he was fired. I wasn't exactly on the edge of my seating waiting to hear all that, but I think he probably got a lot out of writing it. And I appreciate that he followed through on his promise.

- I liked John's show at times. He was at his best when he conducted one on one interviews. Unfortunately, the majority of his show was him blathering on and on at or near a full scream. Ack! Also, he seemed to think that he was the only person who had access to cable news and the internet. So often his 'hot topic' was something that had been discussed all day ad naseum on the news and in blogs. With the right producer and on the right station and with better discipline, I think KFI could have developed John Z. into a better host.

I wish him well, and I am sorry about his grandmother's passing.

~~~

Regarding Ziegler's comment and a few posts on this thread about the gulliblity of the listeners, I have a question. Has there been research done on this subject? It is stated as fact that the audience believes everything a host says and that's why they listen. Where's the data on that? I don't think radio shows understand their listeners very well at all. If they did, they wouldn't make so many bonehead moves.

I don't know where the quality of writing and the quality of the web host are the same. The writing is Ziegler's and could have used some professional editing, if it were being published for perpetuity. In fact though it was really only intended as a personal message to his fans and those interested in his story. I for one was fascinated to get a view at "the man behind the curtain".

The web host only provides the platform for the information to be accessible and the fact that both of Ziegler's sites are not accessible tells me that they were taken down, not that the servers failed.

Yes he did provide the goods as promised. I had my own theories about his dismissal, with his revelations which he merely fleshed out the bones of my imagination.

Your appraisal of his show is pretty much right on, I agree on most of it. I liked his shows the best when he did interviews at which he outshone anyone else on that station and most others anywhere. His rants became annoying to me mostly when he took the path that went against my beliefs and because he was so vehement at times made me tune out. But then that is why they put dials and buttons on radios.

I don't see where anyone on here, and I believe I was the one, has made any factual claims about people's gullibility. I made an observation on what I hear from people I know and converse with. The ones who are fans of a particular talk personality have a tendency to feel that they are receiving total unvarnished truth. It is not a study and to be honest I question most "studies" anyway because the results depend upon the questions asked and how they are presented. In my opinion you can create a study or poll to prove any view you wish to promote. My feeling is that the people with inquiring minds, to borrow from "The National Inquirer", will get the point that what they hear is for entertainment. However I fear that there are fewer of these thinking people in society. The state of our public schools (or as Rush says screwels) makes me believe that very strongly.

I was living near Dayton Ohio when Phil Donahue started as a radio talk show host and the type of show he did where he had a dialog with his audience and brought on guests from a wide spectrum of thought would not survive in our tabloid world and his TV show which grew out of that would never have been. I already hear people going on about Jon Stewart and Carson Daly as though they were the Edward R Murrows of our day.

 

[IListen]

I think therealkfi.com is either an extremely poorly written website or he's using some rinky dink server company to host his site.

'Poorly written website' refers to the HTML coding. There is no way a site with no pictures, ads, etc. should load so slowly if written correctly.

 

[nmoore6676]

I think therealkfi.com is either an extremely poorly written website or he's using some rinky dink server company to host his site.

'Poorly written website' refers to the HTML coding. There is no way a site with no pictures, ads, etc. should load so slowly if written correctly.

You are correct in that part. I had assumed you were referring to actual content and I was wrong.

As to the coding he likely either had someone do it for him or used one of those canned website building programs. Most hosting companies offer some kind of build it yourself utility. I had no problems loading either of his sites prior to yesterday so I am making another assumption in saying that they are down but I now get a missing or mistyped error message so I believe that I am safe in my assumption.

In actual fact most hosting companies are the same. The differences come in the amenities such as redundant servers and backup power. The more you pay the more you get just like anything else. I would think that for someone in the media who has been running his own site for a while that he knows where to go for reliable service.

Either he got some calls from the legal beagles or had second thoughts. He might have pulled his John Ziegler Show site because it had numerous references and graphics about KFI and by right they could have asked him to pull it or revise it. The realKFI site was somewhat, to say the least, inflammatory and had it been me I might have though better of it after careful consideration.

 

[90210]

I wonder why he thought he had to make a website for his explanation instead of just writing it on his personal website.

 

[nmoore6676]

I wonder why he thought he had to make a website for his explanation instead of just writing it on his personal website.

That is an interesting question. The Official John Ziegler Show site predates his KFI days. I only became aware of him following the WHAS incident. That by the way was not over a specific sex (or to Bill Clinton non-sexual) performance as alluded to by someone previously on this thread but rather to his having revealed on air the exact nature of the grooming of his ex-girlfriend's nether regions. A civil jury acquitted him in the suit she had brought.

Maybe his thinking was to keep them separate and to keep both from being pulled if certain parties pressed it over the potentially libelous allegations made on therealkfi posting. But for some reason they are now both down so that may not be it or if a demand was made to the hosting company it may have taken them both down anyway. If that is true he should have used different unrelated companies.

I think that in this latest revelation could well be experiencing another appearance before the guy, or gal, in the black robes. Maybe he can get Judge Judy. ;D

 

[winreader]

Zigler does not come across as an angel by any means, but I think one thing is clear: There is SERIOUS DRAMA ISSUES at CCLA. I'd expect this in TV, but this is absolutely absurd in radio.

CCLA is not alone. Most Clear Channel clusters are run with only the slightest attention paid to managing their on air employees. CC is pretending to be in radio while the Mays' squeeze every last nickel out of their bust-out operation. Robin Bertolucci is just another nervous middle manager doing her best without any help from upstairs, because no one there cares from Hogan on down.

 

[calguy]

Zigler does not come across as an angel by any means, but I think one thing is clear: There is SERIOUS DRAMA ISSUES at CCLA. I'd expect this in TV, but this is absolutely absurd in radio.

CCLA is not alone. Most Clear Channel clusters are run with only the slightest attention paid to managing their on air employees. CC is pretending to be in radio while the Mays' squeeze every last nickel out of their bust-out operation. Robin Bertolucci is just another nervous middle manager doing her best without any help from upstairs, because no one there cares from Hogan on down.

Most of the average CC employees are scared to death. For air talent it's especially frightening. Think about it. Thanks to CC owning more stations that just about anyone and reducing the staffing at all of them, there are far fewer jobs available in the industry than ever before, and remember this, they've been reducing staff for at least 7 or 8 years now, so it has to be very hard to make a living in their chosen profession. I might add that CC only has been giving raises to a select few of the so called stars of the company and upper managers while the average employee hasn't seen a cost of living wage increase since the beginning of the 21st century. Now I‘ve heard that CC is actually asking employees to take wage cuts. All this while the cost of living keeps going up, up, up.

While many good people work for CC stations, the general feeling is that the decision makers at the top are greedy, selfish people who have lost touch with the common man. They've certainly done a great job of hurting even their best and most profitable stations.

 

[LA_Guy]

Clerar Channel long ago got rid of the fat. Then they sliced away all the muscle. Next, they ground away the bone. Not content at their 'fat' cutting yet, they are now spooning out the marrow.....

Soon they'll be nothing left to cut.......period.

 

[nmoore6676]

Zigler does not come across as an angel by any means, but I think one thing is clear: There is SERIOUS DRAMA ISSUES at CCLA. I'd expect this in TV, but this is absolutely absurd in radio.

CCLA is not alone. Most Clear Channel clusters are run with only the slightest attention paid to managing their on air employees. CC is pretending to be in radio while the Mays' squeeze every last nickel out of their bust-out operation. Robin Bertolucci is just another nervous middle manager doing her best without any help from upstairs, because no one there cares from Hogan on down.

Most of the average CC employees are scared to death. For air talent it's especially frightening. Think about it. Thanks to CC owning more stations that just about anyone and reducing the staffing at all of them, there are far fewer jobs available in the industry than ever before, and remember this, they've been reducing staff for at least 7 or 8 years now, so it has to be very hard to make a living in their chosen profession. I might add that CC only has been giving raises to a select few of the so called stars of the company and upper managers while the average employee hasn't seen a cost of living wage increase since the beginning of the 21st century. Now I‘ve heard that CC is actually asking employees to take wage cuts. All this while the cost of living keeps going up, up, up.

While many good people work for CC stations, the general feeling is that the decision makers at the top are greedy, selfish people who have lost touch with the common man. They've certainly done a great job of hurting even their best and most profitable stations.

I have noticed that they hire back fired employees, at least here in Los Angeles, however the new position is a lesser role or weekend whatever so it is of course less money.

Every time I hear Mike Nolan now doing traffic on KFI I get a mental image of Les Nessman doing the helicopter traffic reports on WKRP in Cincinnati.

 

[mred]

Re: Don't go away mad - just go away Zeigler

I thought conservatives/libertarians were tough individualists not vindictive jealous cry babies. Even if John and Ken are phonies, some of the people they feature on their show aren't--and their cause or issue is advanced as people are entertained and the station and it's employees make money. I thought Ziegler believed in the "free market." Don't go away mad John Ziegler--just go away.

P. S. Maybe you'll have to eat that horse you bought.