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They preempted that for this?

A primetime example, American Dreams was killed off by NBC because of constant preemptions. Kinda strange treatment for it, considering that it was a Dick Clark-produced show. But it was on Sunday evenings at, I think, 7:00 p.m. central time, and sometimes would take as much as a month off. Briefly moved to Wednesdays, I think, before cancellation, but by then, it was too late.

Not a great show anyway, IMO. The scripts were just OK. And if you're going to do a period piece, it's important to be accurate about history - making sure songs played on the show supposedly from those years were ACTUALLY songs people listened to in those years, not songs from 4 years later; not showing cars from the late 60s if the story is taking place in the mid 60s, etc. You can be sure that there are enough viewers watching who lived in those years and are paying attention - to notice the glaring errors.
 
You can be sure that there are enough viewers watching who lived in those years and are paying attention - to notice the glaring errors.

The producers of Mad Men are certainly aware of that. After some early stumbles, they are very meticulous about even minor throwaway bits. Don Draper was watching an episode of Dragnet in October 1968, and a check of episodes from that month shows that the specific episode he was watching was shown that week.
 
NBC kept the budget for this show as low as possible, with liberal use of clips from Clark's "American Bandstand" (which had actually moved to L.A. by this time), historical events shown on TV's at the father's appliance store that all just happened to be on NBC (allowing them to use footage from their archives), and limiting the season to 18 episodes--instead of the usual 22. In addition, a number of episodes during one of the seasons dealt with one of the kids collecting Campbell's Soup labels for some prize--allowing for some blatant product placement.
And it showed!
 
Not a great show anyway, IMO. The scripts were just OK. And if you're going to do a period piece, it's important to be accurate about history - making sure songs played on the show supposedly from those years were ACTUALLY songs people listened to in those years, not songs from 4 years later; not showing cars from the late 60s if the story is taking place in the mid 60s, etc. You can be sure that there are enough viewers watching who lived in those years and are paying attention - to notice the glaring errors.
It was always a pet peeve of mine when they would play songs that not only were not hits yet, some of them may not have even been recorded yet! I am not old enough to remember that time frame, but even I could pick out the songs that were being played well before they were actually hits. (I expected so much better from a Dick Clark-produced show!)
 
One "Dreams" nitpick involves a scene depicting a Bandstand show with a WFIL camera shooting Dick Clark behind a podium with the ab '6x logo. AB didn't use the logo until the move from Philly to LA.
 
Re: Most Inexplicable Network Program Pre-Emption

This is from rkolsen on the General TV board at tvnewstalk.net.

I decided to make a new thread to discuss current or past network preemption - whether a program is preempted for moral (including religious) reasons, violent content, money as in (make goods to advertisers) and ultimately sports.

What prompted me to start this thread now is NBCs upcoming two-part miniseries, Rosemary's Baby, where part one airs on Sunday 11 May, 2014 @9/8 C and the second half airs on Thursday 15 May, 2014 @9/8 C both parts end at 11/10 C. And for those of you who are not aware of the storyline of Rosemary's Baby it's about the occult where a naive housewife becomes aware of a plot that she will give birth to the spawn in exchange for her husbands acting career success.

Needless to say when I heard of NBC's plan to recreate Rosemary's Baby I expected there would be at least a handful of stations refusing to carry the miniseries the main one in my mind would be KSL 5 TV based out of Salt Lake City and is owned by Bonneville International which is the for profit broadcasting arm of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (a/k/a Mormons). KSL has a long history of preempting NBC network programming from refusing to run a show The New Normal about gay men trying to have a child because of it does not fit into the Mormon beliefs; it wasn't until this current season (2013-2014) that they would allow SNL to air on the regular tape delayed feed for the mountain time zone due to morals issues and they currently preempt Hannibal because of graphic content. For the record it was worked out with NBC that the shows no longer carried by KSL could be scene in KUCW usually at the same time as it broadcast live.

Now given what we established that KSL has preempted network programming for morals and violence grounds very regularly in the past but doesn't seem to be concerned about the lack of morals, blasphemy of religion and violence that will be aired during this four hour event show. I find it funny that a show like The New Normal which was wholesome and sweet was pulled off air for moral standards but KSL has no issue with a psycho thriller, horror show that dabbles in satanism and the occult.

Now my next question is what are the most common types of preempt ions that occur in your market and how often do they occur.

WBAL-TV is the Hearst owned Flagship NBC affiliate here in Baltimore, Md. WBAL has an older network affiliation contract where they and their Hearst sister in Sacramento, KCRA, are not required to carry the fourth hour of the Today Show during the dayside schedule apart from the Today All Night repeats that air at 2:05 AM nationally. WBAL then further preempts NBCs encore rerun of that nights Jim Cramer with Steve Harvey at 3 AM.

When it comes to sports WBAL-TV has in the past preempted nights of programming to carry either their sister network ESPN Monday Night Football and would simulcast the NFL Network Thursday Night Football but Thursday Night is now a package with CBS Sports. During the events leading up to the middle Jewell of the triple crown, The Preakness Stakes, WBAL does a three and a half hour pre show prior to the star of NBCs coverage preempts the a Stanley Cup which will be moved MeTV. Once the race is over they will preempt Nightly News for a,one and a half hour newscast. These preemption outside broadcasts are fairly complex and enjoyable to watch and one of the strong parts is the musical talent that has played in recent years they've had Daft punk, Macklemore and Lewis, Pitbull and this year Lorde.

WJZ-TV as a CBS O&O very rarely preempts programming unless it's because of a sporting game. MASN, the cable network that is majority owned by the Orioles and minority owned by the Nationals, state that their are 14 instances this summer when a MASN game will be played on WJZ pure emoting whatever CBS Sports has planned.

WMAR-TV, the Scripps owned ABC affiliate is a station that I rarely watch but I remember them having to preempt a pre season Monday Night Football game where WBAL-TV was supposed to carry it but couldn't preempt the Olympics that were airing on NBC. I believe the game even was produced by WBALs crew.

WBFF-TV, WNUV-TV and WUTB-TV are the Fox, CW and MyNetwork affiliates here I'm Baltimore that are ultimately controlled by Sinclair Broadcast group which if I recall correctly rarely preempt any program mining. But about ten years ago they forbid their ABC stations from airing a Night Line report listing the dead soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan on moral grounds and also for political motivation. Sinclair also preempted the movie Saving Private Ryan on its ABC stations for fear of being fined by the FCC.
 
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The WWII docs were definitely on WEWS. Mork and Mindy was on WAKR. I remember watching it in the Cleveland suburbs with tons of static. I normally didn't watch 23 because of the reception, and 5 was the much stronger and local station.

Yeah, by "that show" I meant Mork and Mindy. I don't even remember WWII documentaries being on WEWS.

...perhaps Thames' The World at War? That was particularly successful in U.S. syndication at the time...

I'm sure that's what it was. The name sounds right.

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Actually, the 20-part documentary in question was entitled, "The Unknown War," focused on the USSR-Germany aspect of WWII, and was narrated by Burt Lancaster. The main complaint about it was that it was considered Russian propaganda, since it comes entirely from the their perspective. The series came about after "The World at War" was shown, since Brezhnev & Co. felt that their side of the story had been ignored. Irony alert (given current affairs): episode #13 is entitled, "Liberation of the Ukraine."

By early November 1978, WEWS moved the show from Thursdays at 8 pm (a move that had also sent "What's Happening" to Sunday afternoons with Mork & Mindy) to Mondays at 8. There, it was replacing, at first, the dying Welcome Back Kotter and Operation Petticoat, and then the revived "Lucan." Presumably, enough complaints had registered about a highly-rated show being banished to the Sunday wasteland, that the station came to its senses.

Speaking of WEWS preempts, one of their most notorious came two years later: when the Dodgers and Astros had a one-game playoff, the station didn't show it, opting instead to offer their regular "Afternoon Exchange," "Merv Griffin," and the local news. They did show the final 50 minutes of the game--only because the network obviously wasn't showing that night's newscast. Of course, SECONDS after the game was over (with Astros players running on the field to celebrate), the station cut away, showed a minute or two of local commercials, then showed the last 7-8 minutes of "To Tell the Truth."
 
In regards to WSYR-TV Ch 3 not carrying SNL -way back on he first page: The original WSYR was owned by the ultra conservative Newhouse family. They, also, owned the local papers. Where is the "liberal" media when you need it? So yes, I can understand why they didn't carry SNL at first. I bet one of the other stations in Syracuse threaten to pick it up. That's probably why they picked it up. As far as WKTV carring it, I was working there then. I can can tell you no one in mangement at WKTV had ever seen the show or even knew what it was all about. Basically the station was a money machine running on auto pilot.
 
In 1994 when WAGA announced they were switching from CBS to Fox, they began piecemeal pre-emptions of CBS shows, starting with The Price Is Right and the entire Saturday morning kids line-up. At the last minute, then-independent WVEU (today CW's WUPA) stepped in and cleared Price until CBS found a new affiliate, which is now WGCL.
 
Re: Most Inexplicable Network Program Pre-Emption

In 1994 when WAGA announced they were switching from CBS to Fox, they began piecemeal pre-emptions of CBS shows, starting with The Price Is Right and the entire Saturday morning kids line-up. At the last minute, then-independent WVEU (today CW's WUPA) stepped in and cleared Price until CBS found a new affiliate, which is now WGCL.

With WMGM leaving NBC at the end of the year, have they begun any of those "piecemeal" preemptions?
 
Hard to say. WAGA didn't begin their pre-switch pre-emptions till that September. Also, WMGM has cited that their loss of NBC affiliation at the end of the year was "anti-competitive" and without NBC the station would find it hard sailing to continue operating.
 
Only Bob and Ray fans listening on WOR in NY could appreciate this from the mid 70's

Not sure of the network but the Backstages network special scheduled for 7AM the Saturday after Thanksgiving was pre-empted for a horseshoe pitching championship.
 
In Orlando on Friday (5/23), WFTV is airing the movie Kingpin in place of a Shark Tank repeat and a new What Would You Do?
 
I may have mentioned this elsewhere: WCTV bumped the first 'Victoria's Secret Fashion Show" and instead ran two "Frasier" episodes. (They normally ran "Frasier" at 1:35 am, after "The Late Late Show.")

CBS was scheduled to run "GoodFellas" one night, but the network substituted one of Chuck Norris' "President's Man" movies.
 
Back in 2010 on the night of Game 7 of the NBA finals KSTP in Minneapolis-St Paul did not air the pregame show for the said game 7 but the pre emption was not done for financial reasons. Actually KSTP had to likley provide make goods as they pre empted the pre game show for severe weather coverage. ON that day the state of MN had a record tornado outbreak and at the time of the pregame show there were damaging(and in 1 case a killer) tornado on the ground. Now TECHNICALLY these tornadoes were out of the MSP DMA but these tornadoes in Southern MN were moving towards the southern part of the DMA and KSTP(As well as most twin cities TV stations) are avaliable on cable systems in the rural communities that were under the gun. However twin cities TV stations(other than Channel 29 i'm told, I don't live there anymore) are not available on cable in Albert Lea MN. This pre emption was not unique to KSTP ALL MSP TV stations pre empted programming for these dangerous(and in 1 case killer) storms. And I can tell you that on this particular Thursday night I was as scared as I ever was. Even though I no longer live in that part of southern MN I grew up there, worked in that area, and still knew many people in the area and was greatly concerned as to what was happening.
 
When I was a kid, there were only 2 TV stations in my area, KDAL-TV (CBS, later KDLH) and WDSM-TV (NBC, later KBJR.) Both were also secondary ABC affiliates, running kinnies and 16mm prints about two weeks delayed. One of the oddest running pre-emptions I can remember had to do with...of all people...Mr. Magoo! NBC was launching their prime-time "Famous Adventures of Magoo" series, but KDAL had bought the syndicated 5-minute Magoo cartoons and were running a half-hour block of them in just-before-prime time on some weeknight (6 PM CT Tuesdays I think.)

Well, WDSM was damned if they were going to show NBC's Magoo series when the other Magoo cartoons were running on the competition, so they completely blocked out the whole series. (It never HAS run here to this day!) What they showed instead I can't remember; either a local huntin'n'fishin' show or one of their low-rent syndies like "Captain Gallant of the Foreign Legion."

The secondary ABC affiliation created odd scheduling all its own, like "Hollywood Palace" at 1:30-2:30 Sunday afternoons, or Saturday-morning half hours like "The Beatles" and "Milton the Monster" dropped whole into the middle of the local weekday Bozo the Clown show.

When "All In The Family" started, KDAL felt it was too hot a potato for prime time, so tape delayed it and ran it (if I recall correctly) 11:30-midnight Sundays, and even then preceded by a local disclaimer by the station's management warning of its content. Its prime-time slot on KDAL was filled by, I believe, "Johnny Mann's Stand Up and Cheer." This went on for at least 3 months, then they were finally tempted by the ratings.
 
When "All In The Family" started, KDAL felt it was too hot a potato for prime time, so tape delayed it and ran it (if I recall correctly) 11:30-midnight Sundays, and even then preceded by a local disclaimer by the station's management warning of its content.

Does anyone know or remember if there were any other CBS affiliates that initially had a problem with "All in the Family" and tape-delayed or straight-out preempted it?
 
In the summer of 1981 in Baltimore, as WBAL-11 (NBC) and WMAR-2 (CBS) were gearing up for their switch at the end of August, some of my old TV Guides from that summer have WBAL-11 pre-empting "The Facts of Life" for what I presume was a local show, "Edition Eleven". I don't remember exactly what was pre-empted on WMAR-2 for it, but *they* would air that week's episode of "The Facts of Life".
 


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