THIRD CLASS TICKETS

[yonkstur]

The other day, I was laying around listening to WICK. And
"Brandy" by the Looking Glass came on. You know how you
associate a song with a time in your life and what you were
trying to accomplish? When "Brandy" was a hit, I was living
in Washington, D.C. with a few guys who wanted to be in radio.
During that time, our only recreation was going to Memorial
Stadium in Baltimore to see the O's, eating at Roy Rogers
restaurants (they had cheap chicken back then) and studying like
madmen to pass Element 9 for the Third Class Broadcast license.
(And God forbid if you flunked element 9 because that would
surely go on your permanent record!!!) Once you got your "ticket",
it was good for 99 years. Do you still need a license to broadcast?
Looking back, it was a lot of work. I heard that you really don't
need the "ticket" anymore. That true?
yonkstur

 

[Aramondo]

I think you have to be willing to say that you can read, write, and speak English. And they don't check on that, they'll take your word. And how long before that requirement goes by the board?

> I heard that you really don't need the "ticket" anymore. That true?
> yonkstur

 

[BobAltimari]

> I think you have to be willing to say that you can read,
> write, and speak English. And they don't check on that,
> they'll take your word. And how long before that requirement
> goes by the board?
>
> > I heard that you really don't need the "ticket" anymore.
> That true?
> > yonkstur
>

AFAIK, you can be on the air without a license.....but you do need it to run the board and take the transmitter readings.<P ID="signature">______________
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[DowntownHazleton]

> > I think you have to be willing to say that you can read,
> > write, and speak English. And they don't check on that,
> > they'll take your word. And how long before that
> requirement
> > goes by the board?
> >
> > > I heard that you really don't need the "ticket" anymore.
>
> > That true?
> > > yonkstur
> >
>
> AFAIK, you can be on the air without a license.....but you
> do need it to run the board and take the transmitter
> readings.
>
You NEVER needed a license to run a board. The only thing that a license allowed you to do was control the XMTR. In the older days, a 3rd was only good for non-directional AM arrays and FM's. For AM directionals, you needed to have a 1st ticket on duty at all times. Today the "boxtop" is no longer needed for anything. The FCC is out of the licensing biz. The SBC has a number of tests and levels that people can take, and they are good tests.

 

[DowntownHazleton]

> > > I think you have to be willing to say that you can read,
>
> > > write, and speak English. And they don't check on that,
> > > they'll take your word. And how long before that
> > requirement
> > > goes by the board?
> > >
> > > > I heard that you really don't need the "ticket"
> anymore.
> >
> > > That true?
> > > > yonkstur
> > >
> >
> > AFAIK, you can be on the air without a license.....but you
>
> > do need it to run the board and take the transmitter
> > readings.
> >
> You NEVER needed a license to run a board. The only thing
> that a license allowed you to do was control the XMTR. In
> the older days, a 3rd was only good for non-directional AM
> arrays and FM's. For AM directionals, you needed to have a
> 1st ticket on duty at all times. Today the "boxtop" is no
> longer needed for anything. The FCC is out of the licensing
> biz. The SBC has a number of tests and levels that people
> can take, and they are good tests.
>
Maybe Kevin Fitz or Mike Moran can check in on this....

 

[fennessy]

I didnt have a job in radio that required a third ticket or " third phone" license until I was in radio two years. WAAT in Trenton which was directional had a guy sitting out at the transmitter site in Washington's Crossing all day, WTTM had remote control and a first ticket engineer on duty. I got weekends at WIOQ ( where the readings were done electronically and all you needed to do is sign on and off the log) and passed the test to get that job...then went to WPEN where, again, they had an engineer out under the sticks the whole time. The first place I ever took meter readings was at WIFI and WKAP in Allentown. By that time, the requirement of having a first ticket at a directional station was deregulated. The same year they dropped the requirement for bottom of the hour IDs, and spaced out required meter readings from once an hour to once every three hours.

 

[MCNDRWS]

... studying like madmen to pass Element 9
for the Third Class Broadcast license.
(And God forbid if you flunked element 9 because that would
surely go on your permanent record!!!)
Once you got your"ticket", it was good for 99 years.

yonkstur


I Flunked "The Dreaded Element 9" In D.C.

(Yonk And I Went To The Same Broadcasting School ... But He's MUCH OLDER!)

I Retook It In Wilkes-Barre With A Bunch of Kids From Marywood A Few months

Later. I Still Carry The Wallet Size One Around Just For The Heck Of It.

Never Know When There Might Be A Broadcast Emergency!!!!
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by MCNDRWS on 09/19/05 04:47 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[yonkstur]

> ...> (Yonk And I Went To The Same Broadcasting School ... But
> He's MUCH OLDER!)
>
> I Retook It In Wilkes-Barre With A Bunch of Kids From
> Marywood A Few months
>
> Later. I Still Carry The Wallet Size One Around Just For
> The Heck Of It.
>
> Never Know When Their Might Be A Broadcast Emergency!!!!

Did you have to buy a blazer? They conned me into buying a
blazer. I tore off the logo patch when it wore out
(sometime in the 70s) and just for laughs had a
tailor put it on one of the blazers I own now. (My wife refused
because she did not want to contribute to my lunacy.)
Element 9 was a ****buster. Had I known you could take it in
Wilkes Barre (maybe you couldn't when I took it) I would have.
I never got a wallet size one, mine was orange.
When you went to CAB, did you live on Wisconsin Avenue, a
place called McClean Gardens? The summer I was there, (1972)
there were only two murders in the complex. I understand now
that McClean Gardens is redeveloped into condos for rich lawyers
and government employees. Let them handle the broadcast emergency!
yonkstur
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