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Thirty years along the KOST.

LARadioRewind said:
On November 11, 1972, KMET had an all-day special, "

As for KRTH, the former KHJ-FM, I've often wished they'd get the original call letters back and be "One-Oh-One KHJ." They still use the same KHJ-style jingles and contests and promotions. I've also wished that KCBS-FM could get the call letters and be 93/KHJ on FM, playing the music of 1965-80 and trying to get Bobby Ocean, Humble Harve, Charlie Tuna and some of the other "boss jocks." What did I tell you?---I'm a dreamer!

When you think about it though - the call letters KHJ were associated with Top 40 music for what? I can't recall, but I think it's 20 years or less ('1965 - '198?). The K-Earth brand, and call letters KRTH have been associated with Oldies/Classic Hits for about 40 years - twice as long. I remember that K-Earth started before I left LA, and I've been gone 39 years. In the minds of listeners 50 and under, KRTH are the heritage calls, not KHJ.

RE: KCBS-FM being 93/KHJ. Here in the Bay Area, in the early 90s, 93.3 was KYA-FM, playing Oldies, and used Bill Mann produced "93/KYA" jingles. Quite nostalgic for me, though nobody else I knew got it.
 
KHJ was top-40 from March 1965 to November 1980. The country format---"We all grew up to be cowboys" was their jingle---lasted until April 1, 1983, when they segued from The Last Country Song by Ed Bruce---clever, eh?---into Bill Drake's voice proclaiming "Ladies and gentlemen, the Boss is back!", followed by a jingle and Bill Haley's Rock Around The Clock. In 1984, KHJ became "Car Radio," emphasizing traffic reports and "songs that sound good in your car." Then on February 1, 1986, the station became KRTH-AM. The call letters were never used except for the top-of-the-hour ID. The station was known as "AM 930, Smokin' Oldies." The format was "music from rock'n'roll's first ten years." They played songs from 1955 through 1965, though, which is eleven years. Oh well...

In 1989 KHJ became Spanish-language KKHJ. Eventually the KHJ call letters returned but hearing a Spanish-language 93/KHJ just ain't the same. Sigh.
 
Somehow this KOST thread evolved into a KHJ thread...but I have a story to tell: KHJ's first day as "Boss Radio" was April 28, 1965. Grant Manning, a friend of mine who ran a shortwave radio repair business in San Diego, was in Los Angeles that day. He was not an aircheck collector but he thought the "Boss" debut of KHJ would someday be of historical significance so he recorded the last 40 minutes of the Real Don Steele's show and the first five minutes of Dave Diamond. He threw the tape in a box and forgot about it until 30 years later after he moved to Tennessee. When he rediscovered the tape, he made a copy and sent it to me because he knew I liked KHJ. That was the only aircheck he ever made...and I was the only person he ever made a copy for. I immediately made copies for several other aircheck collectors, including Ray Laine, who lives in Golden, Colorado, and collects anything related to KHJ. (His answering machiner plays the "93/KHJ Golden" jingle---cute, eh?)

KHJ began broadcasting on April 13, 1922. It was owned by the Los Angeles Times and the studios were on the roof of the Times building. KOST went on the air in 1957---I'm trying to steer this thread back on topic---but I can't find the exact date. Does anyone know? Mark? Bryan?
 
Mister calguy, Rick Scarry was KHJ's program director in 1984-85 during the "Car Radio" days. He may have voiced the IDs then, but the 1960s IDs were done by Bill Drake. Drake also voiced all the IDs for the automated "Hit Parade" format that ran on KHJ-FM in 1969-70. (KHJ-FM became KRTH in 1972.) Scarry also worked at KUDU-Ventura, KEZY, KKDJ, KDAY, KGIL, KMET, KRTH, KMPC-FM/KEDG and KLIT. Whew!
 
calguy said:
Was it actually Drake's voice? I seem to recall Rick Scarry doing all that VO.

Yes - at least during the early Drake years, it was Bill Drake's voice on the top of the hour ID, some of the contests (Morgan also did some of them at KHJ), and "___years ago today." He also provided the same TOH IDs for most of the stations he consulted - KFRC was one.

I've noticed that K-Earth occasionally runs them - "And the hits just keep on comin'" is one I heard last time I was in LA.
 
A lot of the KRTH promos and IDs are done by Charlie Van Dyke, veteran of KLIF, KHJ, KRTH, KFRC, KGB, WRKO, WLS, CKLW, KOY and KTAR. Whew! He's no longer in radio; he lives in Phoenix and he's an ordained minister.

Getting back to KOST, don't we all miss the promos done by Dick Clark?
 
LARadioRewind said:
Mister calguy, Rick Scarry was KHJ's program director in 1984-85 during the "Car Radio" days. He may have voiced the IDs then, but the 1960s IDs were done by Bill Drake. Drake also voiced all the IDs for the automated "Hit Parade" format that ran on KHJ-FM in 1969-70. (KHJ-FM became KRTH in 1972.) Scarry also worked at KUDU-Ventura, KEZY, KKDJ, KDAY, KGIL, KMET, KRTH, KMPC-FM/KEDG and KLIT. Whew!

<<April 1, 1983, when they segued from The Last Country Song by Ed Bruce---clever, eh?---into Bill Drake's voice proclaiming "Ladies and gentlemen, the Boss is back!", followed by a jingle and Bill Haley's Rock Around The Clock.>>

I realize that, but what I was referencing was when KHJ returned after Country the promos I heard all had Rick on them replicating their original 1965 Sneak Preview and start of KHJ's Boss radio days. I never heard Drake's voice then. But perhaps they used it briefly and I just missed that.
 
Yes, that was when management thought that KHJ would become L.A.'s top station once again. They re-created the old 1965 promos (originally voiced by Robert W. Morgan) declaring that "other stations may try to copy us, and we invite them to try. For examples of pre-Boss programming, turn to..." and then the other local top-40 stations were named. Not a promo I would have used!

Mister rageradio, Rick Scarry was working at KMET in 1986, the year it became KTWV. In 1987-88, he was programming KMPC-101.9 FM (the former KUTE), which had an AOR format and some of the former KMET DJs. Too many people associated the station with KMPC-AM---sometimes recording artists would go to the wrong KMPC for interviews---so they changed call letters to KEDG, "The Edge." Ratings didn't improve. In 1989 Scarry remained after KEDG became adult-contemporary KLIT, "K-Lite." (It's now regional Mexican KSCA.) (Somewhere in there I trust I answered your question.)
 
LARadioRewind said:
Yes, that was when management thought that KHJ would become L.A.'s top station once again. They re-created the old 1965 promos (originally voiced by Robert W. Morgan) declaring that "other stations may try to copy us, and we invite them to try. For examples of pre-Boss programming, turn to..." and then the other local top-40 stations were named. Not a promo I would have used!

Mister rageradio, Rick Scarry was working at KMET in 1986, the year it became KTWV. In 1987-88, he was programming KMPC-101.9 FM (the former KUTE), which had an AOR format and some of the former KMET DJs. Too many people associated the station with KMPC-AM---sometimes recording artists would go to the wrong KMPC for interviews---so they changed call letters to KEDG, "The Edge." Ratings didn't improve. In 1989 Scarry remained after KEDG became adult-contemporary KLIT, "K-Lite." (It's now regional Mexican KSCA.) (Somewhere in there I trust I answered your question.)

Minor point of contention, but KMPC-FM/KEDG was not AOR, at least as it is defined in my mind, in which KLOS is the standard-bearer and has been for decades, playing nothing but stale classic rock with few if any current adds. KMPC-FM/KEDG was more of a modern rock station, as it was commonly defined in 1988-1989, the difference being that although they played many of the traditional AOR artists like Springsteen and Neil Young, they also played 80's and 90's New Wave/Modern Rock that until then only had a home on stations like KROQ and 91-X, such as XTC, Elvis Costello, Love and Rockets, and Fine Young Cannibals. New adds during their short run included artists like Cowboy Junkies, Midge Ure, Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians,and perhaps most famously, The Call's "Let the Day Begin", which Jim Ladd played both as a new add to the station and simultaneously as it's last song before sign-off.

They were the link between the old classic AOR, New Wave Modern Rock and what would later become AAA. I like to believe the various AAA stations that have come afterwards such as KSCA, 103.1 World Class Rock, and even the current version of KCSN have just a small bit of KEDG DNA in them.

As for KLIT, I liked its version of soft rock much more than KOST's, because they played a much wider variety and, to my way of thinking, the DJs actually sounded like they were talking to you, and not reading off the same liner cards where virtually every syllable is researched and perfected in advance and the presentation is flawlessly executed (read: sterile and monotonously consistent). You could tell the station didn't have very much financial support (Gene Autry was already trying to sell at that point) and there was no way it would win a war against KOST and KBIG, which did have the necessary financial backing and were both more professionally programmed for the format.

I do remember Rick Scarry being there and he always seemed out of place to me because he was on the rockin' station of my youth, KMET, so to hear him on an adult soft rock station was a bit awkward. But I always thought, "a pro has to do what he has to do, and he is certainly not the first guy to be on air in a format that is probably not of his choosing".
 
AOR, Album Oriented Rock. Think about it. Back when the Edge was playing rock, it resembled an AOR station, and by the broad definition of the term The Edge was AOR. Yes, the mix was different, and they played a lot of older rock mixed with new music of a few different shades of rock, modern and otherwise. Essentially you're splitting hairs. But hey, it's your opinion, so cool. AOR stations in 1979 played Costello, and Top 40 and AC stations also played Fine Young Cannibals.

As for your preference of KLIT over KOST, at that point, 1988 through 1991 or so, AC's were very, very soft. KOST included. They were at their sleepiest in those years and the talent were tightly controlled. I found KOST to be way to slow in those years, almost lifeless. But if you listened to KOST from it's sign on in 82 through 86 or so, it was much less controlled and harder edged. In 1982, 83, & 84 especially the jocks there had much more freedom. Like many stations it changed with whatever their consultant was pushing or to the climate of the marketplace. I found many of the Lite's and EZ's that came and went in the 80's & 90's to have an almost Beautiful Music presentation. Clearly KOST had the advantage. It had a certain something that made it successful. Probably having a smart programmer was it's biggest asset.

I've read about a lot of jocks over the years and they didn't always stick to one format. So hearing Rick Scarry doing AOR then Top 40 or AC isn't really out of the norm. Like you said, a pro has to do what he has to do. I had a teacher who said that for any talent to stay in one format took as much luck and know how as well as it did talent, and that many would bounce from format to format in order to stay employed. I've noticed how jocks get typecast now days, and it's true that some talent really can't do other formats, but many can. Reading about talent in Don Barrett's old LARP site, I was surprised at how many might have done Top 40 or AOR in one town and in another they worked AC or even Country. Many people hate the music they play, and with consolidation, they may never work their preferred format.
 
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