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This ain't your grand dad's Morning Drive!

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jhguthlac

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When does Morning Drive really begin in the 21st century?

From the late 40’s through the 50’s and 60’s, Morning Drive was basically 6am to 10am. Radio stations treated it seriously from 6-9, then generally slowed down the pace and ran odds and ends from 9 until 10. In Wilmington, WTUX ran “Newark Coffee Time” with Don Mattewson, an attempt to please Newark advertisers. WDEL ran the 10 minute “Do You Remember Show” and then “Mr. Goodwill” along with other fillers. WNRK had a two-way talk show called “Comment” in that time slot.

The reason for this was quite simple. In most households, you got up to get ready for work/school between 6&7. Between 7 & 8 you went to work/school. For some places where work started at 9, you had that commute to broadcast to. From post-war 1948 to around 1970, the pace was mostly the same.

The school busing situation changed that. Now it was normal for people to be up before 6am. Commute times were different. How did radio stations react. WDEL’s morning drive basically starts at 5:30 as does WSTW. WNRK and WTUX, of course, are deceased. But in the early 90’s when I was OM at WNRK, I noticed changes as I would drive to the station between 3 and 4am to prep my morning show and get everything set-up. There were a fair number of cars on the road. We added the NBC news mag “First Light” to our sked, first from 5:30am to 6, then we picked up the entire hour from 5-6. There were people out there with their clock radios set to 1260, listening to this. So I made sure we had local fills of weather, local headlines, etc. to drop in the program.

News blocks on stations between 5&6 are common today. If you have a big name morning show, like Imus in the Morning at WABC, you fill 5-6 with news. KYW starts their morning drive at 4:30am. Morning drive at WILM/WDOV starts at 5 with a combo of Elliott in the Morning and the Wall Street Journal This Morning. For music stations, WSTW sticks to a 5:30 start, while WJBR pretends it starts at 5am (its V/T-Michael Waite used to V/T 6-7 even!). Only WDEL clings to the past by not starting serious morning programming until 5:30. From 5-5:30 it’s a replay of the first half hour of ufo’s, space aliens and shadow people known as Coast to Coast AM.

Given the number of cars I am sharing the roads with from 4:30am til 5am, I am inclined to believe stations need to rethink morning drive, at least in spirit. During the 50s and 60s, the morning work commute was 10 to 20 minutes to the local office/factory. Today it can be 30 to 45 minutes at least. Turn off the voice track. Admit there are people out there starting their day who want to hear news, weather and the late night scores. Admit morning drive now starts at 5am, not 6. Regardless of what Arbitron says. Give your audience what it needs.
 
I've wanted to replace Coast to Coast at 5am for a long time, but I can't find a half-hour long show...and the Arbitron numbers show us the listenership isn't there to devote live resources at that time of day.

If we did do live news at 5am, would that increase our ratings? Maybe. But the generally accepted Arbitron ratings are 6a-Mid and morning drive is sold 6a-10a. Until that model changes, it's again not worth it for me to devote a live resource to that time of day. (Peter & Mellany are here at that time, but to go on the air earlier would mean they'd have to get here earlier and wouldn't be available later in the day - when news is actually happening.)

Believe me, I'd do it in a heartbeat if I could. Nothing burns me more than hearing George say at 5:29am, "coming up after the break," when I know we're leaving the show at that time.
 
And lest we forget - much is advertiser-driven as well. It's like pulling teeth to get advertisers, and particularly agencies, to accept anything before 6 am, let alone before 5:30. Many still require, or at least request, 7 to 9 am or other constricted dayparts that actually do their clients/spots a disservice in this day and age.
 
Chris, I can understand why you'd not want to start your AM drive newsblock at 5am (the extra cost of them coming in earlier), but with Peter and Mellany already there at the station prior to 5am it costs you nothing extra to have one of them give a live updated weather forecast at 5:06am after the CBS news before going back to whatever satellite show you'd air till 5:29 and give the forecast again at 5:29 ? Sure it's an interruption to what they are doing, but that's part of broadcasting especially when you are alone at the station during the off hours, at least that was what my experience was at every radio station where I worked.

So essentially you're saying that WDEL will not broadcast any useful local info until 5:30am so tune in to WILM, KYW or WHYY-FM if you want to know the weather, which is the one thing most people want to know first thing in the morning while getting ready of work.

WDEL's numbers probably are low at 5am if you're airing the UFO space alien show. I can't imagine many commuters wanting to hear that crap first thing in the morning plus last night's forecast. You don't give anyone up that early any reason to listen to WDEL.

Why not run a half hour block (if you can get it) from ESPN radio, or the sporting news, etc, after CBS news at 5, at least that would offer the scores and highlights, etc, of the previous nights games. That along with the updated weather forecast would make a useful fill until 5:30am, or something like that. WDEL is a very sports oriented station with the Phillies, Eagles, Wesley football, etc, that a show like that from a syndicator would probably be a good fit for that 30 minute block. Anything's got to be better than a UFO space alien show.
 
WDOV has the Wall Street Journal Today at 5am. Could you pick that up for the Wilmington market?

On another point, I consider the first half hour to be a warm up. Like batting practice. If the morning crew would start at 5am, they would be at full speed at 5:30. Currently, 5:30 til 6 can be a bit sluggish some mornings.

ESPN is out of the question because of all the strings attached. But like Mike says, there are other sports outlets. An update on the over night scores would be great. As it is, I frequently switch to KYW for the latest info starting around 4:55.

BTW, I am still shocked when I hear Big Don doing news. Does a good job of course. But its like when Jeff Ashe at KYW made the switch from sports to news anchor. Hard to take him seriously at first! But both Don aand Jeff are good at whatever they do on-air. Hey...bring Don in for the 5-5:30 slot! (Do not give him my e-mail address!!!!)
 
I don't know why you guys don't think I haven't thought of all this stuff already. :)

Yes, the morning team is here at that time, but please believe me when I tell you they're not sitting around looking for something to do. They're preparing for their broadcast. If they go on the air earlier, they need to arrive earlier...and leave earlier. And, again, more news is happing later in their day than at 3:30 in the morning.

And, yes, we could do a live weather update earlier, but our updated forecast from AccuWeather often isn't downloaded until after 5am...so, if we were to go live earlier, it would be with the previous night's information anyway.

But you're missing the bottom line, literally - if we bolster that half hour but sponsors aren't willing to buy that time, I am then spending money without making money. If I keep doing that, then there will be NOTHING on the air. (OK, I exaggerate, but you get my point.)

Re: ESPN - jhguthlad is right. Yahoo! Sports (formerly Sporting News) - doesn't take a break at the bottom of the hour. WSJT -It's an hour show and I was told by their rep that I would have the same problem that I have now with CTC.
(Again, with all due respect, I've looked into all this stuff. Trust me.)

And I will say this for Coast to Coast at that hour, George gives an excellent roundup of the news when he signs on at 5:06. So it's almost like an expanded newscast.
 
WILM currently clears the first half hour of the WALL STREET JOURNAL's news hour, so the point may be moot.

And as Chris says, Coast-to-Coast in the 5 A.M. hour IS more of a news wrap-up rather than a protracted discussion of UFO's and little green men.

The fact that Big Don Voltz has been tapped to do some midday newscasts (1, 1:30, 2 p.m.) illustrates how WDEL is already stretched, personnel-wise, in that midday period.

And what no one has mentioned here is that Peter MacArthur already does double-duty, preparing and recording some A.M. drive newscasts for WSTW.
 
A question about Peter doing the news breaks on WSTW. He identifies as being in the WDEL news room. Does your research show that the idenity brings any WSTW listeners over to WDEL for at least a few hours per week? I am thinking more of the WSTW upper demos.
 
Just a branding opportunity. Corporate synergy, if you will.
 
And, yes, we could do a live weather update earlier, but our updated forecast from AccuWeather often isn't downloaded until after 5am...so, if we were to go live earlier, it would be with the previous night's information anyway.

Chris, I assume that WDEL has an AP printer. They post the forecast and stats hourly. So even if you get the 4am info and stats for 5am, it's better than 12midnight's stats and the overnight forecast. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be dense, but I don't see what the problem is. When I worked alone on weekends I wasn't sitting around either, but was busy and would have to stop what I was doing to update the forecast. It's part of the job.

I'm not saying have Peter and Mellany do an extra half hour, just a 30-60 sec weather update. So I don't follow your thought about spending money to bolster a half hour sponsors don't want. It costs you nothing to insert a live weather update. So they don't have to come in early and leave early. Granted it is an interruption to what they are doing (I've been there done that), but folks like jhguthlac who ARE up and driving to work at 5am can get a real forecast, not last nights. That is what WDEL sells, dependability.

I'm not up that early, so it's not a big deal for me personally Chris, but I can't imagine, if I were the PD, deliberately using really old info. Heck, go on line to weather underground, national weather service, etc, for the forecast and current temp. WDEL works so hard at branding itself as the place to go for Delaware info and then you guys blow off an easy thing that help solidifies your station's branding.
 
I like WSJ's magazine style of reporting, but since that is not an option, could that half hour be filled with something from either CNN or Fox News?
 
Mike,

I'll resist the urge to quote Dan Aykroyd and just say thanks for the suggestion.
 
Chris,

I'm not familiar with the Dan Aykroyd quote ( I gather it was a shot of some sort), but my comments were made in the spirit of trying to make WDEL the best at what it does. Nothing personal, so please don't take my comments as a personal attack, because they aren't. You and I apparently see many things differently, you say tom a toe and I say to ma toe. This is a place where radio folks can discuss such issues. None of us work for you, so we don't have to say Yes sir any time you say what you're going to do as PD and our boss. So don't take offense if we offer our thoughts that disagree with your views, because it's not personal.

Mike From Delaware
 
Mike,

It's not taken personal (although I'm sure you can understand why I may not be totally happy with you suggesting that the product that I am professionally responsible for isn't the best it can be)...and if you Google Dan Aykroyd, you'll see that the reference was meant to be funny.

I appreciate the outside-the-wall thinking. But please keep in mind that folks come on these boards with brainstorms and say "Station XXX should do this or that" and don't seem to think that we haven't thought of all this already and have decided, for whatever reasons, to proceed as we are. We don't just throw darts against the wall and do things haphazardly. We (or at least I) lose sleep every night worrying about the decisions we make. And then I have to read people who generally have no idea as to the factors why decisions were made write how things are being done wrong.

OK.....back to planning our live weekend storm coverage.
 
Chris, I'm assuming WDEL will be paying some serious overtime this weekend. I assume that just like with WDEL's Snow Watch, I'm sure WDEL's sales force has been out selling Hurricane Watch this week as well, so at least this event should have spots to help pay for some of the OT. In any case, this weekend is the sort of thing where WDEL really can and usually does shine. I'll be listening as I'm sure most of us here will be doing.

So, will you draw straws to see who gets the short straw to go to the beach to cover the storm from there. Will you decide based on Seniority. Will you ask for a volunteer? Or will you use one of your fellow Delmarva Broadcasting news folks one of your Lower Delaware stations to call reports to WDEL. In any case, you and your team have your work cut out for you this weekend as my guess is you and the WDEL newsteam will get little sleep this weekend.

In spite of our disagreements here on this board Chris with how we'd do things IF we were in charge, I believe I can speak for all who post here regularly, ALL of US appreciate WDEL still being one of Delaware's few local news sources still available.

Whatever you and your team have to do to bring all of us this weekend's news, above all else, please be safe.
 
Likewise, Chris, from me. Stay safe and I look forward to hearing the great coverage you'll give this weekend (although I wouldn't mind if the storm misses and you get the weekend off!).

Delaware now only has two stations that cover news: WDEL and WGMD. WILM/WDOV isn't even in the game any more. So we depend on you even more than in the past. For Wilmington, you are the only game in town.
 
I am one of the sad fools up and listening to the radio between 5:00 and 5:30am! I used to enjoy WILM's broadcast of Jim Bohannon's "America in the Morning" in that slot, and their current WSJ program at that time is ok. I don't consider listening to WDEL during this time period, however, due to the useless nature of the UFO program. Would prefer something like either of the first two shows mentioned.
 
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