This has been a [fill in the blank] film presentation

[Kurt Toy]

When was the last time any local station or network did this?

 

[The King Bee]

You can see and hear references as to whether a program was filmed (including kinescope) or live back to the beginning of wide-scale commercial broadcasting in the late 1940's. In fact, I believe such notification was required by the FCC up until the mid '50s...you will see and/or hear such notification on almost all early '50s programming. ("This has been a filmed presentation.")

 

[azumanga]

...I believe such notification was required by the FCC up until the mid '50s...you will see and/or hear such notification on almost all early '50s programming. ("This has been a filmed presentation.")

Wasn't all forms of pre-recorded programs require some sort of notification that it was pre-recorded? Programs that were videotaped required some sort of "This program was recorded" announcement into the 1970s, though filmed programs may have already been exempt by the 1960s, as its quality was already obvious.

 

[Tim-In-Houston]

Piggybacking on this topic, so forgive me.

I recall seeing during the end credits of local newscasts through the 80s (at the very least) and into the mid-90s (in Houston, no less, on KPRC) "portions (of tonight's newscast was) pre-recorded."

Wasn't is obvious that news reports were pre-recorded? Or were certain segments (sports, or the "C" block) of those newscasts taped in advance? If so, when did that practice end?

Thanks!

 

[LKellerIII]

Piggybacking on this topic, so forgive me.

I recall seeing during the end credits of local newscasts through the 80s (at the very least) and into the mid-90s (in Houston, no less, on KPRC) "portions (of tonight's newscast was) pre-recorded."

Wasn't is obvious that news reports were pre-recorded? Or were certain segments (sports, or the "C" block) of those newscasts taped in advance? If so, when did that practice end?

Thanks!

Another disclaimer local TV news used to do: a "File Footage" bug on screen to indicate that the film or tape accompanying a story was not from the story itself, but was old footage from the archives.

They don't do that anymore. In San Francisco recently, a local news program ran a story on our local transit agency - Muni. They showed unlabelled file footage of Muni street cars going down Market Street. You could clearly see an advertisement on the streetcar for a local morning-drive radio personality. Problem is - the radio station flipped formats about 8 years ago, and the DJ in the photo died about 3 years ago under tragic circumstances.

 

[firepoint525]

Piggybacking on this topic, so forgive me.
I recall seeing during the end credits of local newscasts through the 80s (at the very least) and into the mid-90s (in Houston, no less, on KPRC) "portions (of tonight's newscast was) pre-recorded."
Wasn't is obvious that news reports were pre-recorded? Or were certain segments (sports, or the "C" block) of those newscasts taped in advance? If so, when did that practice end?
Thanks!

Kind of along the same lines, why did they feel the need to tell us that any given TV show "was taped live before a studio audience"? You mean the laughter wasn't "canned"?

 

[firepoint525]

Another disclaimer local TV news used to do: a "File Footage" bug on screen to indicate that the film or tape accompanying a story was not from the story itself, but was old footage from the archives.
They don't do that anymore. In San Francisco recently, a local news program ran a story on our local transit agency - Muni. They showed unlabelled file footage of Muni street cars going down Market Street. You could clearly see an advertisement on the streetcar for a local morning-drive radio personality. Problem is - the radio station flipped formats about 8 years ago, and the DJ in the photo died about 3 years ago under tragic circumstances.

The example that you gave was probably obvious to anyone who lives there, but I'm thinking that they would still put "file footage" on the screen if it was not, especially if it was relevant to the story. For some reason, they feel the need to put "commercial" on the screen whenever they show parts of a TV commercial as part of a newscast, as if we couldn't figure that out for ourselves! : And they usually talk over parts of the "commercial" or otherwise don't let it air in its entirety, further making it obvious that the advertiser clearly didn't pay for that particular airing.

 

[Tim-In-Houston]

Another disclaimer local TV news used to do: a "File Footage" bug on screen to indicate that the film or tape accompanying a story was not from the story itself, but was old footage from the archives.

They don't do that anymore. In San Francisco recently, a local news program ran a story on our local transit agency - Muni. They showed unlabelled file footage of Muni street cars going down Market Street. You could clearly see an advertisement on the streetcar for a local morning-drive radio personality. Problem is - the radio station flipped formats about 8 years ago, and the DJ in the photo died about 3 years ago under tragic circumstances.

To me, that's *extremely* lazy reporting. Seriously...how long would it have taken a photog (or if you're KRON, the VJ) to drive (or walk) a few blocks and shoot a few minutes of fresh video.

 

[LKellerIII]

Another disclaimer local TV news used to do: a "File Footage" bug on screen to indicate that the film or tape accompanying a story was not from the story itself, but was old footage from the archives.

They don't do that anymore. In San Francisco recently, a local news program ran a story on our local transit agency - Muni. They showed unlabelled file footage of Muni street cars going down Market Street. You could clearly see an advertisement on the streetcar for a local morning-drive radio personality. Problem is - the radio station flipped formats about 8 years ago, and the DJ in the photo died about 3 years ago under tragic circumstances.

To me, that's *extremely* lazy reporting. Seriously...how long would it have taken a photog (or if you're KRON, the VJ) to drive (or walk) a few blocks and shoot a few minutes of fresh video.

True. I think it was KGO-TV, so in their case, they could have walked the few blocks down Front St. to Broadway and taped a Muni bus going by. I don't recall that the story was specific to streetcars.

At minimum, they could have chosen their file footage more carefully.

 

[trusty]

Wasn't all forms of pre-recorded programs require some sort of notification that it was pre-recorded? Programs that were videotaped required some sort of "This program was recorded" announcement into the 1970s, though filmed programs may have already been exempt by the 1960s, as its quality was already obvious.

Which brings up the old discussion about "pre". "Pre" means "before", so the program was before the recording - which is quite impossible.

...except on Police Squad, which was probably taped before a dead studio audience.

??? whatever...

 

[Markxxx]

I thought this was gonna be about Eva Gabor saying "This has been a Filmways Presentation Dahling"

I recall in the latter years of "All In The Family" they used to say "'All In The Family' was played to a studio audience for live responses"

 

[azumanga]

I recall in the latter years of "All In The Family" they used to say "'All In The Family' was played to a studio audience for live responses"

During the last season or two, AITF was taped on a closed set and edited, with the finished product (minus the laughs) shown to an audience for another sitcom (often another Norman Lear show such as "The Jeffersons" or "One Day at a Time"), in which their responses were recorded, then edited onto the episode.

 

[visaman]

Kind of along the same lines, why did they feel the need to tell us that any given TV show "was taped live before a studio audience"? You mean the laughter wasn't "canned"?
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If you ever saw a sitcom from the 60's (Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, etc) you could see that they were filmed in a closed set. It was All in the Family that broke away from that practice and went back to taping in front of a live audience just like I love Lucy. Good Times even went one step further with " From Studio City in Hollywood, Its...

 

[Markxxx]

Were "Mary Tyler Moore" and the other MTM shows filmed before a live audience?

Lucille Ball's shows were filmed before a live audience, but Lucie Arnaz says her mother used to edit laughs. Arnaz says that all shows do that. Like if the joke was funny but the actor tripped or something, it wouldn't be as funny on the second take so they would use the laughs from the first take and edit it in.

 

[Markieo]

This has been a SCREEN GEMS film presentation, from the Hollywood studios of Columbia Pictures!

 

[timmyb]

I thought this was gonna be about Eva Gabor saying "This has been a Filmways Presentation Dahling"

I prefer Donna Douglas (in her best Elly May Clampett voice) saying, "This has been a Filmways presentation!!" ;D

 

[Kurt Toy]

Kind of along the same lines, why did they feel the need to tell us that any given TV show "was taped live before a studio audience"? You mean the laughter wasn't "canned"?

If you ever saw a sitcom from the 60's (Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, etc) you could see that they were filmed in a closed set. It was All in the Family that broke away from that practice and went back to taping in front of a live audience just like I love Lucy. Good Times even went one step further with " From Studio City in Hollywood, Its...

You mean TELEVISION City in Hollywood.


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[azumanga]

Good Times even went one step further with " From Studio City in Hollywood, Its...

You mean TELEVISION City in Hollywood.

CBS also had studios in Studio City, though the first two seasons of Good Times was taped at Television City, with the remainder taped at Metromedia Square.